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Unconstitutional ‘SAFER Act’ violates the First Amendment, undermines academic freedom, and seeks to upend decades of anti-discrimination law

Heavy_Grand2526

December 30, 2022
46 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title Unconstitutional ‘SAFER Act’ violates the First Amendment, undermines academic freedom, and seeks to upend decades of anti-discrimination law
Author

Heavy_Grand2526

Upvotes 46
Comments 22
Date December 30, 2022 5:07 AM UTC
(3 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/zyrois/unconstitutional_safer_act_violates_the_first/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/unconstitutional-safer-act-violates-the-first.1145241
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Comments

[–]odysseytree 29 points30 points31 points 3 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

the SAFER Act’s definition is “any unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature, regardless of whether it is direct or indirect, or verbal or nonverbal . . . .”

They are diluting the definition to leave it on the interpretation of how the accuser feels at the moment. Times are dangerous. Tell your sons about the dangers of these new female praying mantis rules.

[–]JJhammertime1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (20 children) | Copy Link

Any unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature should be illegal. If you are knowingly doing something sexual to someone that they don’t want…that should be a crime.

If you didn’t know they didn’t want it, a jury will decide based on the facts if a reasonable person should have known the conduct was unwanted.

[–]odysseytree 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link

They neither defined what is classified as unwelcome conduct nor defined what sexual nature is. They left it on the interpretation of the accuser. So if a woman sees an invitation from an ugly guy for drink is an unwelcome conduct and of sexual nature, he will be expelled.

Non-verbal and indirect can even mean that an ugly guy is standing next to me and verbal & direct can mean an ugly guy has asked my number.

There is no jury, judge, court and due process in Title IX. Title IX coordinator has the sole power whether to expel the accused or not.

[–]JJhammertime1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (15 children) | Copy Link

But the accuser has no power to expel anyone. Wouldn’t it be the interpretation of the school officials? Don’t all expulsions and rules have to be left to the school officials to decide?

[–]odysseytree 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Adminstration is giving her the power to decide if she feels that her situation was sexual misconduct or not because the definition is left on her interpretation. That means he is always guilty as there are no boundaries on what is NOT a sexual misconduct.

[–]JJhammertime1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link

No. The school is defining it in a way that unwanted contact is reported and they determine if it was inappropriate behavior. There’s nothing to suggest that every single person reported for sexual misconduct will be removed regardless of any other details. That would obviously be insane.

[–]odysseytree 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

How can you say they are defining it when none of the words in their definition actually defines a concrete boundary? They literally left it on her interpretation. Title IX coordinator may or may not agree with her because of her own bias. But if they both agree together, he will be expelled.

[–]JJhammertime1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link

Because they are the ones that pass the sentencing. So when you have a broad law, sentencing is what defines it.

[–]odysseytree 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

There definition is everything is sexual misconduct. How is this a definition?

[–]JJhammertime1 points 3 years ago [recovered] (7 children) | Copy Link

That’s not the definition. The definition is unwanted sexual contact. Do you want unwanted people contacting you sexually? I dont. And if they know it’s unwanted it’s a crime.

[–]odysseytree6 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Stop omitting their definition. Their definition is "any unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature, regardless of whether it is direct or indirect, or verbal or nonverbal", which means everything is sexual misconduct.

What comes in unwelcome conduct? What comes in sexual nature? What comes in non-verbal? What comes in indirect? They left it on the interpretation.

You mentioned "unwanted sexual contact", you are drawing boundaries from their definition although their definition has no concrete boundaries defined. Are you saying "unwanted sexual contact" is the only form of sexual misconduct?

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

"Sentence first, verdict afterward". This is straight out of Alice In Wonderland.

[–]mikesteane 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But it's what will happen because the schools are scared of looking as if they are not doing anything about it.

[–]mikesteane 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you are knowingly doing something sexual to someone that they don’t want

However, the problem is that the "crime" depends entirely on how the "victim" feels about it.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You would have been a wonderful witchfinder general.

[–]MRA_TitleIX 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Title IX? Jury?

Lol. I don't think you know how Title IX plays out in practice.

[–]Arguesovereverythin 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've always been a strong supporter of MGTOW. I know that's not universally popular on this sub and hated on Reddit overall.

But we used to have a saying, "MGTOW doesn't recruit. People find us." I can't imagine anything that would make people find MGTOW more than this.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

🤡🌎🖕

[–]CawlinAlcarz 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Let's see here...

Strengthening Title IX unconstitutionality? - check.

End run around the bill of rights? - check.

Feminists happy and in support? - check.

Democrat sponsored and supported? - check.

[–]OldEgalitarianMRA 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only resolution to men's right's issues will be in the Supreme Court. How many men's lives will be ruined before it gets that far?

[–]WhereProgressIsMade 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmm so if I feel that a woman wearing a blouse that shows a little cleavage is of a sexual nature and I find that unwelcome, that can count as sexual harassment??? Someone didn't think this through.

[–]MRA_TitleIX 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

any unwelcome conduct of a sexual nature, regardless of whether it is direct or indirect, or verbal or nonverbal

In case anyone misses the gravity of this change let this sink in. If this passes the following are possible violations that can get you expelled.

  1. Asking someone in your class of they want to Netflix and chill after a few dates

  2. Doodling a penis in the margin of your notes.

Those are the easy ones that everyone will jump to thinking of. There are some others I think people are missing. Here are some other ways this might be abused:

  1. Makeup can be considered sex based conduct by some. Since this change relies entirely on the other party's opinion what happens when someone claims they find a woman's makeup too sexual and finds it offensive?

  2. Women wearing spaghetti straps or revealing "too much" skin is seen as offensive and is not welcomed by some. Do they risk getting expelled now?

  3. A boner-for-no-reason might get someone expelled.

  4. Some lgbt-unfriendly schools will use this to expel people that don't conform to gender norms. It's only a matter of time before someone says two gay dudes holding hands is unwelcome conduct or talking about gay people existing is unwelcome. I fully expect that this will be used to expel someone who is gay for asking someone who is straight out on a date. This whole thing will 100% be abused to target lgbt people.

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