"use social sciences... to manipulate online discourse and activism." Have we seen these tactics used against the MRM? Are we a likely target? Let's discuss.

IS44 · 2014-02-25T07:13:43+00:00

"They". Who are they? Legitimately curious.

Lacking that, of course the MRM would be a target, but then, most movements are. I don't think it takes any level of 'covert action' to make us a target - trolls do that well enough on their own.

YetAnotherCommenter · 2014-02-25T08:04:09+00:00

If this is from the Snowden leaks, then this is NSA material.

The MRM won't become a target until the MRM is perceived as a national security threat. This won't happen until:

1) terrorism is carried out in the name of MRM causes, or

2) MGTOW becomes so common that it starts "starving the beast" of tax revenue. That'll make MGTOW identical to "Going Galt" in the eyes of the State, and thus a threat (but potentially more widespread).

wwwhistler · 2014-02-25T06:37:30+00:00

explain to me...just how are they different than the Stasi?

AceyJuan · 2014-02-25T14:16:40+00:00

Homosexual activists have been doing this for the last 5-6 years. You have to understand most marxist's/leftist's etc, use alot of rhetoric and set phrases in their day to day vocabulary.

I remember a History class I took back in 08, I would casually talk with a male classmate often before class(he was leftist). Whenever we talked about politics or social stuff, he would always use catch phrases, and dogmatic rhetoric.

Look for words feminist's and Marxists use. Like "intersection" for example. Read the literature of the enemy, read their conversations, so you can more easily spot them and the aura they give off.

As per the article and risk of government interference(which is probably much higher than homosexual and marxist activists<it is possible most blatant homosexual and marxists activists infiltrations are actually government agents trying to create and perpetuate animosity or some other end>), look for people and suspect people who try to go with the flow to steer the flow.

People who seem to thrive with the mob(group of people). Who can brush elbows fluently without stepping on toes.

Also watch out for people who, or rather their writing, seems too "perfect". I don't mean their grammar or sentence structure, but the flow and meaning of what they write.

Granted some people are good at writing, so don't be overly paranoid, but don't be naive either.

Also, people who refuse to entertain hypothetical's, and stick to some sense of rigidity should be suspect.

With stuff like this, I cannot stress enough(to friends, foes and everyone in-between), self reflection is a must. You must know yourself better than your enemy knows you.

For that, I suggest people, at the end of the day, or throughout the day, casually reflect on what you have observed, things others have said and done, as well as things you have said and done.

EricTheHalibut · 2014-02-27T10:36:36+00:00

If anyhitng I'd say the MRM is a potentially useful tool for the powers that be. I don't mean that in the sense of promoting patriarchy or anything that a feminist ideologue might say, but rather two practical points.

The simplest is that the reintroduction of lower-class women to the workforce and the introduction of middle-class women to formal employment was good for employers, because it increased the labour pool and thus, by simple macroeconomics, helped keep down wages while still allowing expansion. If the "re-balancing" of educational and employment outcomes goes too far, the market becomes less efficient and wages will go up, except that then women will disproportionately hold good jobs.

The scones reason is that "feminism" represents an ideal which can be mobilised to political ends. However, because there is no comparably powerful opposing ideology, they are, to a certain extent, beholden to the feminist leaders (much like how, in some regions, politicians are beholden to church leaders even though there is a theoretical separation of church and state).

baskandpurr · 2014-02-25T18:20:52+00:00

If the question intends the people using these tactics to be feminists then I'd have to say no. They aren't that clever.

Title	"use social sciences... to manipulate online discourse and activism." Have we seen these tactics used against the MRM? Are we a likely target? Let's discuss.
Author	AceyJuan
Upvotes	83
Comments	36
Date	February 25, 2014 4:46 AM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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