Very sad thread on Google Plus about female on male rape

dalsgaard · 2013-02-09T01:02:17+00:00

Our society is against rape apologists. Unless of course the one being raped is a man. In that case, our culture is against the ones who defend him.

Nightfalls · 2013-02-09T03:23:52+00:00

I'd like to point out that while a penis rarely tears, it can be injured in many other ways due to rough, non-consensual sex. The tissues can be permanently damaged if the penis is bent, which can lead to not only the inability to ever have sex again, but also urinary issues and further complications. This happens, and it's horrifying to think about. It can happen even in consensual sex, though rarely in that case. I've seen porn outtakes where it's happened, and it is absolutely horrifying.

typhonblue · 2013-02-09T03:01:07+00:00

You shouldn't back down from the whole "it happens more to women!" shit... it's not backed up by statistics:

http://www.genderratic.com/p/836/manufacturing-female-victimhood-and-marginalizing-vulnerable-men/

If you include prison rape, rape may happen to men 2x as often as it does women.

It's just that men have a higher rate of false negatives on lifetime stats (mostly because they don't live in a cultural narrative that constantly reaffirms their victimization as female victims of male rapists do.)

rightsbot · 2013-02-09T00:50:17+00:00

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oneiorosgrip · 2013-02-09T04:11:22+00:00

Thanks for posting this - Amber's comments are a glaring example of how the bias in the 2010 NISVS report are being used to deny the male experience of being a rape victim.

The survey itself was badly flawed, with the questions worded in ways which have likely inflated the statistics obtained from it. Further, the precautions taken to avoid upsetting respondents were geared toward the comfort only of respondents who found women less threatening than men, widening the bias against victims of female perpetrators even more.

Some things you could point out to Amber:

The reason the study appears to show such a vast majority of rapists being men, and such a vast majority of victims being women, is that it defines rape in terms which exclude a man being forced to penetrate, limiting the male experience to being penetrated, the same as a female. This effectively excludes the victim's sex organ from the definition of rape, where the victim is a man.
When you take into account being forced to penetrate, the numbers even out pretty quickly, especially when you look at the year 2010, when the number of men forced to penetrate is very close to the number of women forcibly penetrated. The majority of men forced to penetrate reported female perpetrators.
Some women who were forcibly penetrated, and some men who were forcibly penetrated, also reported female perpetrators. I think we all have a pretty solid notion as to why and how a male rapist might forcibly penetrate a victim - but think for just a moment about the female rapist. What does she get from forcibly penetrating except the knowledge that she's hurting her victim?

proweruser · 2013-02-09T04:32:14+00:00

Ugh I can't read that. Hank Green said a short while ago, that as you get older, you don't get angry anymore, you just get sad. That's how I feel.

What really gets me is that that CDC report where 98% of rapists are men is quoted there. Ofcourse nobody reads it to find out, that women just can't be rapists by the CDCs definition and that they actually force men to penetrate them as often as they are forcefully penetrated...

2013-02-09T06:00:38+00:00

Rage man.....so much fucking rage. Just.....I'm done for the night guys.

2013-02-09T16:47:05+00:00

The respondents get off-topic VERY quickly and into a discussion of "who has it worse" rather than focusing on the insulting treatment of male victims. Reminds me of the oft-used SRS phrase "What about teh menz!"--except in reverse.

They offer "women have it worse" as justification for this treatment when there is no justification.

I generally feel we can admit that women suffer more in rape than men, but should identify this as red herring logic that must not be treated as a legitimate reason to mock a male rape survivor.

popsofctown · 2013-02-09T19:02:16+00:00

I had no idea there are males so unsympathetic to Men's Rights..

It is really sad.

esantipapa · 2013-02-11T22:38:09+00:00

Are you saying that men suffer more mental trauma than women? Because that is how it has been coming across.

Wow. Does she realize how shunned men are who even consider telling anyone they might have been "raped" by a woman? They can't confide in their friends (shamed as a weakling) or parents (shamed as promiscuous) or if they have a girlfriend (accused of infidelity)... or police (not taken seriously) or counselors (would they believe him?).

Holy fuck.

edit: Of course, I also realize women face those challenges as well... with additions (child?). Both face the scare of STDs and emotional scarring... though maybe I'm biased since I'm a guy but I genuinely feel like I could quite literally tell no one person on Earth who would believe me and as a result, I would have to "suck it up" and "drive on" with it... and carry that experience in silence the rest of my life.

Title	Very sad thread on Google Plus about female on male rape
Author	Faryshta
Upvotes	53
Comments	30
Date	February 9, 2013 12:49 AM UTC (13 years ago)
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