We just can't win

HaveAFresca · 2021-03-11T13:25:23+00:00

Ah, MensLib. A subreddit dedicated to liberating men from oppressive societal systems, with a post about how non-shitty men apparently benefit from shitty men because non-shitty men are also, to a certain degree, shitty men.

Notice how the discussion is gendered. It's about men abusing women, because the first thing this subreddit that has the gall to call itself MensLib does is turn men into the aggressors in all IPV. This is despite the fact that based on dozens of studies spanning decades, it is almost always found that women are more likely to be aggressors in both heterosexual and lesbian relationships, but the problem is, of course, men.

A couple of months ago, MensLib was having a discussion on how the Red Hot Chili Piper was being sexually assaulted by women. This poster sympathized with the women because he could not fathom they were not actually victims when they reached up the band member's kilt to touch his penis. He was highly upvoted because nobody there gives a single flying fuck about men, especially when it's a woman doing something bad to them.

If you're from MensLib reading this, I sincerely recommend that you go fuck yourself. You do nothing for men's rights but act like a pathetic sycophant for your feminist observers.

LettuceBeGrateful · 2021-03-11T15:23:33+00:00

everyone low key expects you to be abusive when you are male presenting and they don't know you well. This is also true, and also largely pointless to discuss.

900 people upvoted this, and not one person thought to call it out?

IceFlake_YT · 2021-03-11T14:00:41+00:00

So now being nice is also bad?

homo__schedule · 2021-03-11T18:25:03+00:00

Ah yes the MensLibtards

higgs456 · 2021-03-11T20:19:56+00:00

The last guy who benefits from an abused woman is the next guy she gets with, as if dealing with a partner who has been through that kind of thing is easy jfc

Xon999 · 2021-03-11T13:17:38+00:00

I’m gonna be honest on this one, they have a point. After an abusive relationship, someone’s standards are very low and will take unhealthy relationships and be fine because they are better in comparison being abused, benefiting those men. When they get into a normal relationship, they’ll be impressed with what is considered to be common courtesy, like their partner doing a fair share of cooking and cleaning. Not the best way to look at it, but not wrong either. Same thing is present for women benefitting off abusive women.

ObviousObservationz · 2021-03-11T13:19:34+00:00

What's wrong with this? Its true of all situations.

Women that cheat make women that are faithful look better.

Men that are unemployed make men with jobs look better.

Alcoholics make those that can control their consumption look better.

Just because men like myself look better for not being abusive, it doesn't mean anyone is blaming me or all men for abuse. Theres really no need to take things so personally.

If you get out of a marriage in which your wife treated you terribly, you may be content in a relationship in which your wife just treats you a little bad. This is something to be discussed and experiences shared.

This is just a conversation about expectations in a relationship that can be altered by past experiences. A pretty damn important conversation for men and women.

Raknarg · 2021-03-11T19:04:08+00:00

You pick one awkward post among hundreds of overtly pro-men posts, and then you ignore the highly upvoted comments in the post pointing out some of the things you would probably have issues with

quantumSwitch · 2021-03-11T14:03:52+00:00

Shouldn't it be this way though, don't get me wrong but it takes a lot of effort to be in a relationship with someone who's been an abuse victim, either male or female and not everyone is ready to take that risk. Hence the partners which come after the abuser have to bear this responsibility and hence have a bit of an advantage.

Title	We just can't win
Author	froznlolipop
Upvotes	23
Comments	37
Date	March 11, 2021 12:59 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/m2piue/we_just_cant_win/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/we-just-cant-win.832754 https://theredarchive.com/post/832754

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