Is this wrong to say?

Mrs_Drgree · 2020-04-21T11:19:55+00:00

Removed for low effort

poppy_blu · 2020-04-21T09:49:17+00:00

Individuals should improve; the sexes can do whatever they want.

MoroseAlsoLugubrious · 2020-04-21T11:01:18+00:00

The reason people talk about the need for women to change is because men’s gendered behavior is now incredibly tailored to the needs of women. Men will now bend over backwards, sometimes to the point of accepting cheating, to avoid being seen as controlling of their partners. You best believe a millennial or zoomer man can’t conceivably face the consequences of criticizing a woman in public. Traditional flirting such as compliments or taking the initiative in asking for a date are reduced to the point that women complain about it. And in general any expression of gender from a woman has become accepted by men. Gone are the days of expecting a meek stay at home housewife. (Unless the woman doesn’t want to work for a living, lol.)

What have women as a class done for the benefit of men? Pushes for women to accept non-traditional behavior from men such as emotions, open mental illness, bisexuality, or financial equality have been met with endless whining from twitter or FDS, and according to the media, it’s these women who want to restrict men’s behavior that are in the right. Women as a class are unable to conceive that how they engage with men can sometimes be unfair.

-OpportunityCost · 2020-04-21T09:44:49+00:00

People operate on self-interest, if something doesn't benefit them then they generally won't do anything about it. People that sit and complain about how other people should operate are proving the point that they are self-interested because it would benefit themselves more. Its adapt to the current situation or drop out, complaining will never change anything.

crookedsummer2019 · 2020-04-21T11:16:41+00:00

Those men are complaining because they can’t get woman to do what they want them to do or be who they want them to be.

Sir_manalot · 2020-04-21T09:48:48+00:00

You are right, but men are the ones that are currently improving themselves, not women.

Which is why people are complaining about women not improving themselves at all while demanding a man who spent his whole life improving themselves.

Just look at trp, hate or not, it is about self improvement.

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throwOyVey_ · 2020-04-21T10:25:38+00:00

You're right, OP. The rub is that Reddit is composed of mostly males. As a group, we're not immune to messages that flatter/unflatter us. We respond respectively (with bias, shown through voting patterns)

Exvareon · 2020-04-21T09:55:35+00:00

Men will always improve one way or another. Its a biology thing, we are competitive by nature. The difference between most men and most women is that men will both put themselves up and put others down when it comes to competition (therefore improving as well), while women will only put others down (therefore not improving at all and making people complain).

DangZagnut · 2020-04-21T10:55:58+00:00

It's completely wrong. Women don't improve their behavior. Why would they have to?

Of course men do bad things, 100 years of it being pointed out all day and night by screaming man haters is nothing new. Every day on every form of media there's yet another insult to men.

So who cares. Women have been coddled, so in the name of "equality" they claim to champion (nein) then they can use a few criticisms or improvement suggestions, in soft fruity language, or they get all enraged and entitled so you gotta treat 'em like an angry cat.

taapy234 · 2020-04-21T10:59:32+00:00

Not wrong per se., but we live in a gynocentric world (atleast in the western society)

And women, particularly young women are given very slanted advantages favoring them over men in nearly all aspects of their life that isn't biological advantages that men already possess.

We men don't have to be told that we need to improve our behavior.... I mean no shit sherlock, we are ALWAYS hit on our heads metaphorically on improving ourselves and make a career and work and be financially stable, etc to get a girl.

So, in this instance, I think its definitely fair to advise women what they should do what they shouldn't-- because if you don't they wouldn't get it until its too late. Because women don't know what they don't know now with all this society wide shielding they are enjoying. And TRP is telling women (indirectly) what they have been shielded way all their lives.

Because at the end of the day, even all this gynocentrism that women created for themselves won't save them if they can't find a man to settle down with them in their later years. This is already slowly happening in recent years. Single women are poised to be 47% of the total female population of United States by 2029. (within our lifetime) That statistic should shock people off, and it doesn't for some reason.

Title	Is this wrong to say?
Author	magdakitsune21
Upvotes	8
Comments	40
Date	April 21, 2020 9:34 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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