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Alpha Widow Approaching The Wall Commits Suicide

RED_PILL_TRUTH

February 11, 2015
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Title Alpha Widow Approaching The Wall Commits Suicide
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Upvotes 38
Comments 41
Date February 11, 2015 6:06 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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[–]817682 65 points66 points67 points 11 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

This should be a lesson to all of us that the stupid ideas we're taught about relationships and what's important can have real, tragic consequences for men and women.

She was apparently an intelligent, pretty girl who got so confused about what's important and not important that she ended her own life, when a reasonable (if not perfect) life was easily within her grasp.

Men do this, too - either literally killing ourselves because of our own bad thinking about relationships (oneitis), or dying a slow death from alcohol/drug abuse, or just wasting away with bullshit and video games and escapism.

Let's not get so wrapped up in anger and resentment about our own mistakes and confusion that we become blind to the suffering of others, or the loss of real potential. This woman was someone's daughter, someone's sister, and someone's girlfriend, and her pain and suicide are nothing to celebrate.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 36 points37 points38 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Having struggled with depression myself, and having been on the edge, I'd mostly sign this.

Nonetheless, this story proves so many RP-concepts. If the result was different, this could be straight from the textbook. You don't need to celebrate in order to acknowledge that.

Also how many articles can you find about men killing themselves, because they've been divorce raped and had their children taken away? How many articles on ex-soldiers, who were left both by their families and their government? How many on autistic basement-rats, who just couldn't take it any more? How many on men putting a 9mm to their temple, because they lost their job and their career and were too emberassed to tell anyone.

This is just such a big story, because she's a very good looking female. Usually she would have married her beta boyfriend, fol,owed her "dream" of settling down, fucking her personal trainer, after she got two kids, left that poor AFC and divorce raped the fuck out of him.

Yeah. And maybe he would have put an end to his existence here then. Nobody would have cared about him. To the contrary he would have been called a looser, a quitter, a weakling, a cheater or a failure who chose to take the easy way out and didn't give a fuck about his family and left his exceptionally good looking wife as a widow with children, and took "the easy way out".

There is no pity for men, especially not for men on the ground. Source: Been there.

[–]seddition2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Something simultaneously terrifying and liberating about coming to the conclusion that as a man you stand alone. All the more reason to work hard since you can't rely on anyone but yourself when the shit hits the fan.

[–]1nzgs 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The difference is that nobody in the media gives a shit about the male depression and suicide rate.

[–]Sesa_Refum 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Sometimes we redpillers get so caught up with qhos getting the short end of the stick that we forget feminism is a product the fools women just as much as it fools men. Everybody pays heavily for it, no matter who gets to ride the "cock carousel"

[–]bluedrygrass 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Who is celebrating the death of that woman? Nobody. It is only presented as an example of the correctness of the theory. Let's not make shit up.

[–]RED_PILL_TRUTH[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I wasn't able to elaborate more, as I was posting from mobile and I hate doing that. Nobody's death is anything to celebrate. However, think of all the men out there that have killed themselves over nobody ever having loved them- This woman clearly found sexual satisfaction and love at some point in time- She had psychiatric healthcare to take care of her depression, clearly had enough looks to grab a beta bucks guy somewhere, and she was clearly educated, so she knew that suicide is a selfish thing that puts more harm on those around you than yourself. It's talked about in all the gen-ed psych classes that everyone going through university takes.

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[–]817682 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I've got no problem/argument with monogamy.

I don't think a man who works, works out, reads, and spends time with his friends, date(s) or his family is likely to have a lot of time left over for serious video gaming.

And a man who chooses video games over working, physical development, mental development, or social development/activity is a stunted child.

[–]darksoulflame -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"just wasting away with bullshit and video games and escapism"

I'm sorry but what if men who do this only do it just for fun? What if they play video games or find other things to spend their time because they like to? Are you saying people who like to do these are wasting away because its for them to dwell on what they cannot have or is it just a waste of time in general?

It shouldn't matter what people do in their lives, as long as they are genuinely happy about it and not use it as an excuse for running away from their problems.

[–]817682 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An adult who spends a significant amount of time on video games (or television, or other passive, unproductive activities) is wasting their life.

A man's life should be more than just having fun, especially passive, prepackaged, carefully produced indoor fun staring at a screen.

[–]ModAerobus 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

An anon from 4chan posted a decent analysis of her behavior and women in general: https://i.imgur.com/barNnwV.png

[–]Grainslol 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They would rather kill themselves before be my gf

Aaaaaaand that is why you don't "find yourself" by riding the CC.

[–]Newdist2 16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a man-bites-dog story, can't generalize from it. Usually they settle for the beta bucks and psychiatric meds.

The dog-bites-man story is male suicide after divorce rape.

[–]Senior Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And a lot of alcohol according to the article posted earlier today.

[–]Endorsed Contributorvandaalen 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive.today link

[–]JeromeMorrow13 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Making a RP case study out of this event is specious. There is no doubt that most women experience unpleasant feelings as they approach "the wall."

However, the action of suicide is not undertaken without underlying mental illness. Suicide goes against our one biological imperative and is hard coded into our DNA. Her situation may have exacerbated her mental condition, but was not the main driver of it.

This post is superficial and in bad taste.

[–]1egoisenemy 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

People are misinterpreting this. Mentally healthy people do not commit suicide 99.999999999% of the time. What happened here is a very depressed, broken person obsessed over this issue to the point where her depressed mind thought it was rational to kill themselves. Depressed people will find many issues to kill themselves over: animal cruelty, pollution, not getting that promotion etc. It is not necessarily the issues fault for getting to kill themselves and the main focus of the problem should be on her depression, not what she killed herself about. That isn't to say that the issue of why she killed herself about has no merit and weight but that it shouldn't be the focus necessarily.

[–]wantonton 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Seriously. This girl had a mental health problem. Depression and suicidal idealization are found in all sorts of situations. This has nothing to do with men, women, feminism, TRP, etc.

Although outside factors can trigger a depressive episode, such as the unexpected loss of a parent, once in motion all it's looking for is an excuse. Any excuse will do. She killed herself because of a tragic neuro-chemical imbalance, not because she was lonely or unmarried.

[–]zephyrprime 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I somewhat agree with this guy. I've been on 4chan where some of the boards have a lot of people that talk about their desire to kill themselves. None of those guys will ever have a news article written about them. This story was published because it is so rare for a beautiful girl to kill herself. The unusualness of the case should cause readers to not make any trp generalizations about the issue. Yeah sure the wall is real but an exceptional case for this is not valid evidence for the wall. The girl just was too unbalanced and was taking her problems in life too seriously. It's too easy sometimes for people to start seeing only their problems and stop seeing all the good things in life.

[–]wantonton -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed.

TRP may explain why her suicide is "news worthy." It has nothing to do with her suicide.

[–]zephyrprime 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. She successfully rode the cock carousel and then found her willing beta at the end. It's just that she also happened to be a manic depressive or something and killed herself. It's not because she found marrying her beta so awful. In fact, she was worried she wouldn't be able to tie the guy down even though there was no indication of that in the article (except where they talk about all the partial breakups they had).

[–]TekkomanKingz 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Has everything to do with it. And the fact that it occurred in the UK where the assault on Men has intensified is all the more indicative the BF probably said hell no to marriage or kids. He was probably very high SMV which led her to say "Fuck it"

Western Women in 20 years: "Alpha Bucks or Bust!"

[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

A 39 year old Asian looking guy in the UK who was a foodie of some degree just did the same, for more or less the same reasons. I do find it interesting that the ages somewhat tracked to the Rational Male SMV picture where they both flipped their shit about not getting a mate.

[–]TekkomanKingz 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It has begun. Don't say I didn't tell you so.

[–]∞ Mod | TRP Vanguardbsutansalt 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I get what you're saying, but you should elaborate for the newbies.

[–]TekkomanKingz 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The extreme nature of Women will lead them to their own demise. This "Alpha or Bust" mentality prevailing among Millenial women who don't want to "settle" for a Beta. There will be hundreds of thousands more 6's and 7's annihilating themselves because they couldn't secure Prince charming.

Remember their mommies told them "You can have it ALL". Well it's become a zero-sum ALL or NOTHING game for them.

[–]Forty_Deuce 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It really just sounds like she had some major issues and that she was mentally weak. She went around worrying that this guy was going to leave her, which it sounds like it's something that he didn't want to do until she flipped out over nothing. So I'm not buying that it's totally her hitting the wall. Plenty of women hit the wall everyday and don't kill themselves. But she had problems that went beyond hitting the wall.

[–]grewapair 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Women who look like that treat guys like shit. Maybe he was finding the red pill and was about to leave her.

[–]Forty_Deuce 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

While I have completely swallowed the red pill, I've also had, and still have, the misfortune of seeing people I know slip away from reality due to mental illness. That's why I don't buy that this is totally about her hitting the wall.

[–]Keninishna 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't know if this is all redpill the bitch was obviously crazy and depressed and killed herself. Her turning 30 and not settling down is dumb shes still pretty good looking and getting a alpha to smash that and knock her up wouldent be too hard i imagine.

[–]1RPB1 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The problem isn't that she had a lot going for her, the problem is that she was incapable of recognizing the value of her life and the people still in it.

It's amazing how your beliefs influence both brain chemistry and physical health. She didn't come out broken, something along the way broke her and she was ill-equipped to fix it. No dopamine to be had because her threshold was much higher based on her conditioning and expectations.

She had an idea of what her life was supposed to be based on what the mainstream had sold her (having it all), and when the reality didn't match the rhetoric her mother's death only exacerbated the issue. She considered her life a failure. So she decided not to bother. We do the same thing when we re-roll RPG characters in a video-game, except we don't get a second playthrough.

Speaking from experience: insanity is not required to be suicidal. That is a gross oversimplification of a nuanced emotional state. Suicidal thoughts are actually somewhat logical, albeit based on false information. She believed that her suffering would persist or increase indefinitely, and thus the most pragmatic course of action is to relieve the suffering by shutting down her consciousness.

[–]Abreseyes 1 points1 points1 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Are we really saying this girl couldn't get a strong man with alpha qualities to settle down with her? I like this place, it's taught me alot about frame,shit tests and not being scared to go after what you want.

To say that a 29yo decent looking woman couldn't get a quality man because it all comes down to AF/BB, and why? Because any alpha man will be able to fuck younger girls.It's starting to sound like idealised nonsense.

There really isn't a middle ground?

[–]Endorsed ContributorInvalidity 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Anton on first appearance looks like a chump. He's doting on the girl. How she can possibly think that that guy wouldn't want to marry her and start a family with her is beyond absurd.

The men she was likely used to seeing when she was younger were far out of her league in terms of securing commitment. This woman looks decent for her age, but she wanted to secure commitment from men who are leagues above her boyfriend.

Those men do not commit to women like her, especially since she is seemingly domineering and career-driven. That kills a woman inside to think that she has to settle for less.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The reasons women give for their actions are not the whole truth. Ever.

She says "I can't handle turning 30" but most can. She had other shit going on. A LOT of other shit going on. Let's not focus on what she happened to attribute her motives to.

[–]seddition1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This is a tragedy but not surprising. Pretty much every attractive girl I know won't settle down because of all the constant attention and seemingly limitless options they have. They play games and act like dipshits so the quality men leave them for seemingly better options and the less clued in men get abused by them until they run off. Then they wake up somewhere between 30 and 35 and wonder why no one will man up and where all the real men have gone. Social media has made most women have such inflated senses of self worth that no man can make them happy anymore.

[–]GREF_ -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

And she was kinda cute too! LOL

This is what happens when more and more betas start waking up. You see there's different qualities of betas, some that make more money and are better looking than lower betas. She failed to lock down her Alpha, and then probably couldn't lock down a decent beta either.

She realized the world lacks marriageable men (not for her post wall ass at least!) and she couldn't live with this realization so she killed herself. If only she knew this was because feminism has ruined the incentives for good betas to marry, and for any beta to even try to become marriage material.

[–]Philhelm -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sad. There were perhaps a hundred cocks that will never get to penetrate her now.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]1RPB1 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

You aren't seeing the forest for the trees.

Only one person in the comments at the time of this reply gloated over her suicide.

Pay attention. The purpose of this post (while somewhat redundant) is to illustrate the impact of feminism on the collective emotional health of women nearing the end of their sexually competitive period. When women commit suicide, it is frequently because of issues pertaining to romance.

A secondary observation being made in the comments is that nobody gives a shit when a man kills himself unless he's a celebrity.

Talk about a shit comment. ;)

[–]RED_PILL_TRUTH[S] 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody has poked fun here. just dissecting facts.

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