Aren't we shit-testing them now?

dropit_sphere · 2013-10-30T20:44:29+00:00

Yes, in the way you mean. A common objection to TRP is "They sure seem to talk a lot about getting women to act like sluts considering they say they hate sluts."

The way men think of it is described in Frost's post Two Games---sluts are for short-term sluttery, non-sluts are wife material. This is why you might hear, "I hate sluts" and "I love sluts" from the same person: it depends on context.

"Aren't we just brothers and sisters in self-delusion then?" Well, sort of. But life will almost certainly be better for th settled-down cad than for the reformed slut. The guys who are harmfully self-deluded, IMO, are the betas and fathers who are left holding the bag when the other shoe drops.

lordofthejelly · 2013-10-30T21:43:00+00:00

To sum up what I think you're saying:

Man fails shit test = no sex. Woman fails shit test = no commitment.

I hadn't thought of it like that, but I believe the answer to your question is yes, we are. But it's no more right or wrong than when women do it.

I've found opinion on this varies on TRP, but it's my belief that shit-testing on women's part is absolutely natural. While annoying, it is not evil. TRP (for both sexes) is not about getting them to stop shit-testing you, it's about how to pass those shit-tests.

Archwinger · 2013-10-30T21:16:56+00:00

The way the term is used here, "shit test" has a fairly specific meaning, nearly exclusive to women and what they do (sometimes unconsciously) to test men.

The way the term is used in the OP, sure, everything is a shit test. Every time you talk to someone else in an attempt to elicit some kind of reaction, you're shit testing that person. "Will my boss give me a raise if I ask and I'm very confident and alpha about it? If so, he totally failed my shit test!" "Will my two-year-old cry if I take her Little Mermaid DVD away? Yeah, I totally got her to do what I thought she would do! Shit test!" "Will this girl at a bar squeeze back if I grab her hand in a confident and non-awkward manner? Hell yeah! Shit test!"

Invalidity · 2013-10-30T20:28:47+00:00

A shit-test is a minor incongruency test. We don't have to do any bullshit testing to see if a woman is marriage material, we can find out very easily if she is or isn't. We don't have to actively test a woman for this kind of information; her actions and her past will tell us right away..

POOR_IMPULSE_CONTR0L · 2013-10-30T20:28:05+00:00

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magicalbird · 2013-10-30T20:30:58+00:00

/r/theredpill is about what works. If you pull her on the first night then you decide if she is relationship material or not in each specific case. Of course never marriage.

whiskey_bearfist · 2013-10-30T21:18:21+00:00

your question presupposes that shit testing is a bad behavior when in reality it is normal behavior. she is using a built in technique to cull the masses and disqualify unworthy mates. this is standard protocol, not some malevolent acting out.

a woman who gives up that ass too easily is disqualifying herself as a long term partner, but qualifying herself for a short term sexual partner. the women who want long term relationships with high quality men have a difficult task set out for them in balancing resistance to his charms and risking losing him to other sluttier women. the hotter she is the more hoops she can make him jump through.

its a rare find indeed these days to find a hot smart girl who knows how to get the man of dreams at a young age.

cwm44 · 2013-10-30T22:52:39+00:00

The male equivalent of shit-testing is compliance testing.

Terry_Bruce_Dick · 2013-10-30T21:39:54+00:00

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Zackcid · 2013-10-31T02:51:47+00:00

No. You're also implying that every PUA and man with TRP knowledge is at the same level. A man can have all his shit together and be the ultimate alpha, yet have plenty of girls sleep with him. These girls sleep with him because he is highly valuable and rare, so they want to keep him for themselves. A newbie can come along and meet the same girl and get shut down instantly.

I wouldn't disqualify a girl who I've had sex within the first couple days as non-LTR worthy. I believe that sex has to come early on for a healthy relationship to sprout.

TRP isn't about tricks either. If she falls for you, it's because of your personality and overall self.

POOR_IMPULSE_CONTR0L · 2013-10-30T23:26:08+00:00

How easy a girl is doesn't factor into my judgements of her. That kind of thinking is a relic from the old days. Imo it's meant to actually keep you from marrying the good ones. See a girl who can be free sexually has way more confidence. She knows what she wants. She is more social. I find looser girls cooler all around...but maybe that's just me.

Title	Aren't we shit-testing them now?
Author	McDoogleSnatch
Upvotes	33
Comments	32
Date	October 30, 2013 7:52 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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