As a black guy who's accepted TRP, this really hits home

dabidniss · 2014-01-29T03:28:48+00:00

Check out the Black Phillip Show on YouTube and then check out the Beige Phillip podcast. They are hosted by black men and have a very red pill mentality.

I wouldn't say they are limited to a black mans perspective but their experiences are definitely relatable.

Sunshinelorrypop · 2014-01-29T04:59:59+00:00

There's a lot of black people on here so I'm sure they know way more about it than I do.

However, you need to assess why your being branded as Carlton, isolate the mannerisms and work on replacing them with better ones.

Also study real portrayals of men in film. American films are pretty shit for this, they just have guys with big muscles blowing people away. Although Limits of Control is quite good.

However a film that I really think displays strong frame is Le Conseguenze Dell'Amore. I think race really is overrated, body language was developed way back when we all were black and hasn't changed much since.

watersign · 2014-01-29T06:58:46+00:00

You don't have to be Urkel or Carlton. You need to be Denzel. Articulate, friendly, in shape and smart.

bama79rolltide · 2014-01-29T05:07:44+00:00

I don't think red pill applies differently based on races as much as it does where feminist culture has power. Sluts are sluts. Remind them every chance you get.

Cheers!

2014-01-29T05:18:07+00:00

I really hate that black culture has so many negative connotations around it. Good post though. I am also black and found the red pill this morning.

IIHotelYorba · 2014-01-29T12:53:59+00:00

The closest to race based stuff is this- women fuck with me about being too old, they fuck with my buddies about being asian, they'll definitely fuck with you about being black.

Anything they think you're insecure about, they'll feel insecure about and test you on it. This works just as well in the reverse though, and the more you are around girls who like you the more you'll hear things like they like black dudes the best, or they don't tend to like black dudes, except for you. The list goes on.

Girls try to bust my chops about EVERYTHING. And later I become the guy who is "the one exception they make." Why? Because I genuinely think I'm fucking great. And then they do. And it really is that simple.

It's the same reason why when you walk up to them, they're all looking at their friends for what to think. They need your leadership. And technically you're always leading them. Whether it's to like you or dislike you is up to you.

2014-01-29T04:56:12+00:00

I love Athlone's articles. He's easily the best writer on RoK's IMO without a doubt.

Fellow Black Guy here. I came to a lot of the same conclusions you reached myself years ago. It is tough. Like every man of every ethnicity (Black, Latino, Asian, poka-dot) we have to walk a fine line between being Socially Dominant and Confident and Building Comfort. But unlike what non-black people have to worry about, we can't come off as too dominant or we face the issue of being associated with thugs, and despite popular perception, like Athlone mentioned, most non-black women are not into that.

I second listening to Black Philip, and reading some tips from a few of the black posters on Roosh V forums. They're quite a few.

Social Circle is key. Take up new hobbies and expand your own. Use game to come off as fun, playful and confident within that social circle, and perhaps you may run into girls that you hit it off with. (still working on this myself)

DanReggins · 2014-01-29T08:08:59+00:00

Act like Gus Fring.

Skio89 · 2014-01-29T05:41:58+00:00

Appreciate the feedback fellas.

This just came to mind but, in terms of comedians, Corey Holcomb's 5150 radio show was a good listen. I remember taking a lot of what he said as "NAWALT", but in hindsight he was pretty spot on.

midnightmasses · 2014-01-29T09:37:08+00:00

As a half black dude - one way you can get rid of the carlton/urkel thing is go for a punk or rocker type fashion style skio89. This has paid MASSIVE dividends for me. It almost screams "im unique and i give ZERO FUCKS."

Also second drrrrr's advice - play up either type of attitude depending on the situation.

stairwaytoheaven57 · 2014-01-29T08:24:01+00:00

If you haven't watched Patrice Oneal you're missing out big time.

FearEatsSoul · 2014-01-29T04:51:54+00:00

I'm black. First, my own personal view of race is that race is a myth that society has accepted as real and something to live by, or to define us. The promoting of race as something actually existing was/is a way to control men, a way to exploit or lessen the chances of success of competing men for women and resources. It's a game, it's bullshit, realize it for what it is and realize that because it is so ingrained and widespread you're not going to change it, but don't let it change or define who you are.

Now, I know you're thinking, "dude, that's some bullshit and not touching my question at all". But, I've been with a wide variety of women of different races/nationalities from Chinese to Nigerian, to straight up hood black women, hipster upper middle class white women, feminist latinas and ivy league Korean women. You know what I found? The shit you read here on TRP applied and worked for every single one of them. So, what does that mean? You can't deny the biology and science that truly drives us all. It shits on and defies all of the social constructs/myths like race that people say exist and define us.

2014-01-29T08:45:16+00:00

I am from Europe so I know jack shit about the American Black experience except for of course GTA San Andreas :) Still I think you guys have lots of hyper-masculine, brutally red pill role models of the 2Pac and other similar gangsta-rapper types. Can't you utilize that somehow?

I used to do bench presses while listening to The Uppercut from 2Pac. Basically that song is just testosterone distilled. Surely you can use this thing somehow.

redpillbanana · 2014-01-29T09:10:33+00:00

In terms of race, it varies quite a bit by country. In the USA, most minorities have it tough, partially because of height (Asians and Hispanics), and partially because of race.

http://ssrn.com/abstract=895442

For example, consider a man who is 5’ 2’’ tall. In order to be as desirable to a woman as a man who is 5’ 11.5’’ tall and who earns $62,500 per year, he needs to have an additional income of $269,000 (i.e., he needs to make $331,500 per year).

Table 5.6 – Ethnicity/Income Trade-Offs

For example, consider an Asian man who would like to data a White woman. In order to be as desirable to her as a White man who earns $62,500 per year, he needs to have an additional income of $247,000 (i.e., he needs to make $309,500 per year).

The OKCupid study was really good and showed that the losers in the American dating game were Asian/Black/Indian men and Black women:

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/

White women prefer white men to the exclusion of everyone else—and Asian and Hispanic women prefer them even more exclusively. These three types of women only respond well to white men. More significantly, these groups’ reply rates to non-whites is terrible. Asian women write back non-white males at 21.9%, Hispanic women at 22.9%, and white women at 23.0%. It’s here where things get interesting, for white women in particular. If you look at the match-by-race table before this one, the “should-look-like” one, you see that white women have an above-average compatibility with almost every group. Yet they only reply well to guys who look like them. There’s more data on this towards the end of the post.

OTOH, it seems that French women seem to have a thing for Asian men - I think it is partially because of that movie The Lover which is a love story between a French girl and Chinese man - and has hotter sex scenes than most porn.

http://asianfanatics.net/forum/topic/744927-asian-guys-and-french-girls/

By Amy, french, 26 years, of my forum (in my profile) :

For a boyfriend, that's a "more" if the guy is a Asian guy (again more if it's a japanese guy or a Chinese guy ) because they are polite, worker and serious. They have much of qualities. So, why think that the french girls not have of interests for them ?

Me, I love the slanting eyes !

Amy. (nickname)

Nickname : Suo, french girl, 16 years old

For me, a different culture is not a barrier no preference for the country, and I love their voices.

Nickname : Kalhan, french girl, 20 years old

Like my friends, that's the respect notion, who's attracted me in the Asian guy, I prefer the Japanese guy because he is more big in size.. I'm not of little size, I love their culture

Nickname : nannie48 , french girl, 19 years old

For my part I confess I have not of preference, it depends on the guy actually, although I confess I am attracted to Asian guy, Americans and Autraliens guy. But I think it's more the fact of coming from a foreign country that attracts me, the fact of sharing different cultures ... By cons I find that Asians have more class and charm that the French.

Nickname : Louvejess, French girl, 19 years old

Personally I have a weakness for their dark slanting eye, their culture that give them a sense of pride, respect for traditions, their look in general but also the way they dress, what are worker ...

Nickname : Lunanga, French girl, 25 years old

I prefer the Japanese guy. I like men with slightly slanting eyes . And for the size, they are less and less small now, well it's true that the average size is smaller than ours, but there are exceptions.

It is true that to be two different cultures is not nothing because everyday it can cause more problems, or misunderstandings. I love their politeness, respect for elders and superiors, and then there is some form of gallantry in their modesty (for us guys are far from having much respect for girls, or just be polite it or even nice). They have kept some value (for families ..), traditions, and I like it.

Nickname : Aisu, French girl, 17 years old

For me I prefer the Japanese guy and Koreans guy ! I love their voices !!!!!! after the respect of customs, I love !!

I will summarize the other reviews:

Japanese and Korean guys are the favorites for the moment (thank you, the dramas ^ ⁾

Your eyes (if you are complexed, comes just in France, you will fascinate the french girls)

Your Voice

respect your elders and your culture

You are workers

Your shy given you a galant air.

I've also noticed that Russian women don't seem to dismiss Asians as easily as most other white women. It seems that the worse they speak English, the nicer they are to Asians.

TL;DR: dating in the USA sucks for both short and minority men.

Roshnar · 2014-01-29T15:03:41+00:00

As an Asian guy, I will say I definitely get shit-tested wayyyyy harder by non-Asian women. While on the otherhand, white guys don't seem to get tested as hard by other non-whites. Not impossible though, just stick with a strong frame and ride through it.

2014-01-29T15:17:38+00:00

There's a couple authors on returnofkings.com who are black, and offer up a black perspective. I can't recall which ones- it never came into question.

But I think black guys can get away with more aggressive game, especially in a club situation. At least that what I noticed from my personal Red Pill mentor (big intimidating black dude). Or it could be that I'm just a little bitch and not being a aggressive enough. Can anyone else weigh in on this?

LasherDeviance · 2014-01-29T16:01:19+00:00

You don't need race specific game advice. Figure out broad appeal, be confident, and improve yourself the best you can.

WN5h · 2014-01-29T16:10:50+00:00

There is something that works wonders for us "Carlton" types. We're safe, while we might get snubbed by our own race (generally smarter ones will toe dip though likely we don't give them the thug gina tingles).

But we're safe. Every chick of every other race except for the most obviously racist who has wanted a black guy but can't "lower" them self will jump on your dick. BEFORE I was red pill I regularly got russians, kazakhs, swede, chinese, and other assorted white and latinas. This was 135lb 5'8" me. Now I've put on 45 lbs swallowed the pill and it's worse now. I can get blacks too. Married now (to a black chick) so I'm restricted but the principle is the same.

EDIT: This article described perfectly the "game" I ran before I enlistes and kept up afterwards.

LasherDeviance · 2014-01-29T21:47:54+00:00

ITT: All my fellow brothas on TRP.

Title	As a black guy who's accepted TRP, this really hits home
Author	Skio89
Upvotes	46
Comments	68
Date	January 29, 2014 3:21 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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