Charlottesville, Berkeley, the alt-right, antifa, neo-nazis, and neo-communists. The underlying cause, and the path toward a solution. The Red Pill has finally lead us to the Matrix's amniotic sac.

0xdada · 2017-09-12T23:27:56+00:00

Seriously? Yes, a few companies have a lot of money and information, but they have no recourse to violence the way the state does.

The state and its institutions are infested with anti-western values.

academia: cultural marxism
military: cultural marxism
judiciary: cultural marxism
family "courts": feminism
medicine: cultural marxism
policing: identarianism
public service: unionized socialism and deep state imperialism
central banking: keynesianism
diplomacy: globalism
economics: globalism

This is about culture, not economics.

Hillarysdilddo_2016 · 2017-09-12T03:59:24+00:00

One cannot tell where the deep state mega Corp apparatus ends and the government begins. They are definitely overdue for an anti-trust break up, but when do you ever see a corrupt system reign itself in? It never happens without bloodshed.

These systems are all part of the same beast. Media, corporations, banking, government, academia. They all work together to turn you into a mindless, soulless, culture less, consumerist simpleton.

Labor automation will certainly upend things, but in the meantime the powers that be will continue their long march forward of fucking over your way of life and exploiting and destroying your people. It's what they do best.

Theres a few ways to fight the beast but first and foremost is to wake up and learn about the true nature of this world.

Also, I disagree that this is all about jobs... If it were then leftists wouldn't take the position of flooding western nations with millions of third world savages that will compete for jobs. So that kind of proves your thesis wrong.

Mellyanish · 2017-09-12T11:36:22+00:00

UBI would make us all wards of the state. The solution to corporatism is freedom, not communism.

Anduril_69 · 2017-09-12T08:44:45+00:00

Too big to fail means too big.

RageLionRising · 2017-09-12T04:34:19+00:00

Let's take $40,000—about the average American income—and shrink it down to one cubic centimeter. This is about the size of a sugar cube.

Multiply that cubic centimeter by one million. That equals $40,000,000,000 or $40 billion dollars. Your cubic centimeter is now one cubic meter. This is roughly what Bill Gates was worth in the early 1990s as the richest man in the world.

Now take that $40 billion dollar cubic meter and multiply it times 20.

You now have 20 cubic meters or $800,000,000,000. That's $800 billion dollars or roughly the value of Apple Inc. the most valuable company in the world.

Now compare that 1 cubic centimeter of $40k in your palm and look at the 20 cubic meters of $800B stacked high into the air.

Labor automation. Enjoy your sugar cube!

http://splash.abc.net.au/splash-image-servlet/mvcservlet/imageServlet/profile2/ESACOL-L163

CrimsonEllipse · 2017-09-12T12:28:48+00:00

Do you want to prevent mass unemployment due to automation? It's easy - get rid of the minimum wage. The only thing a minimum wage will do is make it illegal for you to seek a job that a robot can do. Oh sure, it's not fair and you can't raise a family on blah blah blah. But if you're an idiot and decide to:

Not pursue a useful trade like welding, carpentry, plumbing, etc.
Not go to college
Get a useless college degree like gender studies or basket weaving, or
Not pursue entrepreneurial opportunities that present themselves to you

then you deserve to be unemployed and you deserve to be poor.

You want to know the real reason that "Charlottesville, Berkeley, the alt-right, antifa, neo-nazis, and neo-communists" are all a problem now? The root cause isn't economics, economics is a symptom. The real issue is the lack of consequences in our society.

Instituting universal basic income will just remove another consequence - it is essentially telling people "It's OK if you're a worthless fuckup, here have some cash." Universal income will just make things worse.

Gallobrax · 2017-09-12T11:51:43+00:00

I have a fair bit of background on this subject.

I found it curious that you mentioned economics as the root cause for the above, made some arguments about mega corps (and their valuations) but then brought it squarely back to capitalism. The first part of your discussion was excellent: economics is the number one problem we face as a planet right now. But everything you mentioned is a direct consequence of monetary policy (and fiscal stimulus) not as a result underlying the underlying economic foundation.

You see you also astutely mentioned every major recession and depression for the last two hundred years. Every one. But you aren't connecting the dots. Isn't it curious that they occur roughly every four to eight years? Isn't it also curious that everyone is worse and worse? The next one is going to be horrific and it will take out much of the modern financial framework we enjoy today, but it won't be because of capitalism. It will be because of the absence of capitalism.

For there to capitalism to exist true price discovery must also exist. Instead easy money has allowed these mega corps to exist and we have facilitated them further through "clever" regulation. What goes up must however come down and economics is a science. Where there is a misallocation of labor and capital eventually it destroys itself. There are signs everywhere that we have reached the peak of the business cycle and if I and others are right about this the social issues before us will be but a whisper.

A excellent post however. I just found you were missing the bigger picture. The macroeconomy is about to blow. This doesn't last forever.

Bambam22bam · 2017-09-12T02:56:34+00:00

Really great post. You put a lot of good points of reference in there and I agree wholeheartedly that economics drives a majority of social problems / phenomena. As someone who works in financial economics, i agree... except you lost me here:

Trump is taking care of the globalist China and immigration issues.

He's not doing shit. I don't blame him for just wanting to get his, though. Do Your damn thing donnie. But I'm not living in some fairy tale existence where this biff-looking motherfucker comes in and "takes care" of "globalist" China. Our economy demanded an economy like china exists. That's Capitalism. It's big. It's bad. IT GIVES NO FUCKS ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS OR THE FAMILY YOU NEED TO FEED. True Capitalism just doesn't give a fuck who you are; all it knows is growth. The players who control the American economy caused the globalist problem, not China. China is just the big, bad boogeyman they want you to point the finger at, along with immigrants.

Entropy-7 · 2017-09-12T09:09:01+00:00

If you want an interesting statistic, look at a list of countries and correlate income disparity with homicide rates. Perhaps counterintuitively, whether a country is rich or poor has little effect on homicide rates, but rather the income distribution.

Automation is at least partially a function of workers pricing themselves out of the market. In a world of minimum wage laws where you have to pay an 18 year old 12 bucks an hour to sling hamburgers, companies like McDonald's are going automate as many processes as possible. (As a counter-example, boomtowns in Alberta pay teenagers $15+ an hour because apparently, that is the market rate).

Something to think about agriculture. A country's GDP per capita is inversely related to the percentage of the work force involved in agriculture.

The combine harvester, developed from about the 1820's on, revolutionized agriculture in the USA and changed both the economy and society at large. OTOH, a functional cotton harvester was not available until a century later. If, as a fluke of history, the dates of invention of these two machines was reversed, the American Civil War might not have happened.

TheThingsIThink · 2017-09-12T23:36:50+00:00

I'm waiting for a regional conflict in Asia to cripple international supply chains. Neo-liberalism is predicated on the US enforcing the Pax Americana.

ex_addict_bro · 2017-09-13T11:02:40+00:00

Negative income tax caused motivation to work to lower 9-18% and people became less self reliant in their thinking about their family and responsibilities. If this isn't communists wet dream then I don't know what it is.

Truedemocracy2 · 2017-09-16T11:29:14+00:00

Basic income is the most blue fucking pill concept in all of economics. Same as bitching about their not being opportunity. There is PLENTY of opportunity.

Just because someone agrees witih your political views doesn't also make them TRP or alpha. Trumps base has plenty of losers in it who are willing to blame others besides themselves for their problems (drug abuse, unemployment, etc)

I do agree amazon should and will eventually be broken up - but anyone here supporting basic income or wealth redistribution needs to stop posting and read some more

ObjectiveBuffoon · 2017-09-12T02:26:23+00:00

Good point on the difference between capitalism and these tech mega corps. Capitalism is about freedom -- we are now losing freedom to a type of capitalism.

vengefully_yours · 2017-09-12T03:38:41+00:00

I read that and see your point. We have been here before no doubt, wars usually happen after this sort of thing to cull males. Don't need jobs if you're dead.

However I'm not much of a doom and gloom type. You either adapt and thrive or you try desperately to make the world go back to what you know. You see demise, I see opportunity. Every thing in this universe is a cycle, why would we be any different?

newName543456 · 2017-09-12T21:47:43+00:00

At one trillion dollars these companies start becoming the government. Capable of challenging state power.

Actually, megacorps are already on board with gov't, pushing crony deals for subsidies coming straight from taxpayers' pockets (with widely revered Musk being prime example of that) and regulations that seem to be pro-environment (remember corporate backlash over Trump considering withdrawing from Paris climate agreement?), yet their primary goal is to hamper potential competition by raising barriers to entry.

As for jobs, it's not so simple. Menial jobs are likely to go extinct given enough time. Creative jobs may raise though. It is not safe to assume a priori, whether void from menial jobs will get filled completely or not. Remember though, Luddites were whining about the exact same thing two centuries ago.

pongpong123able · 2017-09-13T10:10:50+00:00

You forget that the rise of identity politics coincide with mass migration of muslims (europe) and hispanics (US) into western nations coupled with the decline in white population birth rate. Economy may be an underlying factor but the nature of the conflict is determined by the cultural underpinnings and the political and social values of the competing populations

ex_addict_bro · 2017-09-12T08:32:04+00:00

You're a fucking communist and have no place here. Down vote and reported.

killermike-el-P · 2017-09-12T03:28:26+00:00

People on the red pill think openly hypergamous women are the problem, or other humans coming in from foreign lands or even so called foreigners in native land. But these are all temporary problems that are nothing new and have been sold before. The no. 1 problem right now is A.I And it is only going to get worse.

5dreality · 2017-09-12T16:25:35+00:00

Those megacorps are already the government, most people dont realize it because they are blinded by what the media shows them.

Where the whole political scheme is a sham is politicians dont write laws, Policy Groups do... CFR, Builderburg, CNP etc. While your busy fighting each other and aligning yourself with a side of the political spectrum (it doesnt matter because the groups are fucking you in the ass by writing these laws that benefits these megacorps and themselves).

I agree with removing taxes but taxes arent the issue at a Macro Scale. GDP is. Im guestimating our current GDP is at 2.5% meaning the average income is somewhere around 44,000 a year. This is where we as people are getting fucked. If you increase GDP to somewhere around 20+% paying 50% taxes will still raise most people into the upper middle class brackets.

Its VERY easy to bring GDP to 20%+ for the next several decades. But people are too busy fighting over stupid shit and being distracted by the cointelpro news corprations and protests. For those of you that are Trump supporters and want Trump to be the man, He can Flip a Switch Today and bring GDP to 20+% overnight

LiteSoul · 2017-09-12T21:57:41+00:00

Interested in what u/NeoreactionSafe have to say about this.

jewishsupremacist88 · 2017-09-13T00:06:37+00:00

ive been working as a data analyst for the past 5 years or so and my job blurs between data engineer / developer / data scientist and quite frankly..people just aren't needed anymore. goldman sachs used to have 600 traders on their equity desk and now 3 software engineers pretty much trade all their exchange base products.

selfsufficientnigga · 2017-09-13T10:33:30+00:00

1) Don't we already have a trp subreddit for politics shit? Bugger off with this to there.

2) I agree with UBI in principle, but there's one major caveat to it: if not carefully planned, all it will do is increase the profits for rent-seeking class - once people have extra 1k per month, there will be extra competition for nice places to live at, which will just cause the landlords to increase the rent. In effect, the state will subsidize the already-subsidized rent-seeking class. Because of this, I would argue that UBI should be intertwined with government-owned housing.

SLP1856 · 2017-09-12T04:26:02+00:00

You just blew my mind. Thank you

crush_snort_red_pill · 2017-09-12T03:11:00+00:00

Humans need not apply:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

Rhodenclan · 2017-09-13T01:51:24+00:00

I don't know if I agree with basic income. I'll have to check the links first. But everything else is spot on. Great post!

SexdictatorLucifer · 2017-09-12T04:28:21+00:00

Extreme economic instability is inevitable at this point. When this happens, we retract into a more primitive state. See: Race. If you are smart, you are building your networks and organizing racially. Especially if you're a white man.

michael_wilkins · 2017-09-12T15:29:41+00:00

Regardless of whether basic income works on paper or not, it's going to happen because there is no other choice.

SasquatchMcKraken · 2017-09-12T03:34:49+00:00

I've come around to the idea of basic income. It essentially eliminates the labyrinth of existing programs in favor of one consolidated safety net. Social Security? Don't need it: you're receiving basic income. Food stamps? Not necessary: you're on basic income. Put a minimal amount of money in people's pockets and let the chips fall where they may. It's the welfare state streamlined.

College costs are a bitch because the job market increasingly sees a college diploma as essential but universities are still pricing themselves like they're a luxury. Those two things can't continue together forever. I expect eventually it'll be colleges that realize they're the new high school, so they must either lower their prices or lock their gates (except for some prestigious schools like the Ivy League clique or Stanford) as online/low-budget options grow. How long this will take is anyone's guess, though.

crush_snort_red_pill · 2017-09-12T03:09:50+00:00

I don't know why this is on TRP, but fuck it.

I've mentioned before in this subreddit that I do well...the reason is... I own a business in the tech sector and our clients are the Fortune 500. We serve clients in every sector and at every size but the Fortune 500 are key to this comment.

I've seen the inside of many many big businesses. We go in and we see first-hand how the sausage is made. They ask us for help making it better. My dudes, if I told you that in the last 5 years alone I've seen or been a part of projects worth at least $1B focused solely on eliminating white collar labor you wouldn't believe me, but it's true. Actually it's an understatement. Amongst my friends in this space it is throughly uncontroversial that the only reason half of these people in these big companies still have jobs is that their employer sucks so bad at technology. The problem? That's changing really fast (partly my fault).

One company in particular used a convenient dip in their market to slowly bleed off nearly 30% of their white collar staff. The company is running fine with the tech we built for them. Those jobs aren't coming back. They were very good paying jobs. Most were $100k+

I'm telling you my dudes, it sucked when the factories left, but it's going to be a whole other world when all the big wage earners in corporate America go extinct. I tell this to people who don't work in my space and they just can't wrap their heads around it so they don't believe me. I'm telling you my dudes, shit is going to get really fucking weird.

RageLionRising · Tue Sep 12 1:59:13 2017 UTC

https://youtu.be/Z8eKxVCFoUk?t=54s

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