Field report: first time I was really amogged

coffeebreath716 · 2019-09-27T10:11:00+00:00

You got really mad over the party host calling you stupid and arrogant for taking their drink. Then you very aggressively cuss at him and initiate a scrum, inside the party host's own house no less, creating a whole scene. Simply all over some words thrown at you cuz YOU made a mistake.

You shouldnt be worried about not fighting someone. You should be worried that you lost frame over something relarively stupid. He called you stupid and arrogant? And got passive aggressive? He sounds like a bitch...why would you let a bitch bother you? Women act like this too. Do you get angry at women? I'd hope not. If another man is using bitch woman tactics, then you talk back to him like one. Use DARE, like one of the top posts right now. Read that whole thing...could be applied to this situation...especially at a party. You're there to have a good time, not get pissy. Dont let people get into your head mate.

If they lay hands on you first or wont allow you to leave a situation, then defend yourself. Fighting aint worth it. You can seriouslt disfigured yourself or someone else, the guy can possibly have a weapon, or friends outside. Someone or you can die, you never know what people are capbale of. Also you could possibly catch a charge. What if you accidentally kill someone cuz you knock him out and his head slams onto the concrete or a tabletop the wrong way and he dies? Great, now you're going to prison for manslaughter. Was the argument worth it? avoiding AVOIDABLE situations like this is always better. Defend yourself only. No need to get all puffy chest with a guy lol.

Use your super emotional self to just learn from this situation instead. You are embarrased with yourself cuz you lost frame. We've all been there. We get it. Shit happens. The red pill is a learning experience. But now its in the past, no need to keep fretting over it, all that will do is decline your mental health mate. LEARN from this situation and better yourself. Everything that happens to you in life doesn't define you - it's your reaction to those things that define you. Good luck OP and I hope you learned something.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-09-27T10:38:50+00:00

You broke frame before that point. You broke it when you stepped up to him. You showed someone they got to you.

Learn amused mastery. Frame control.

Sumsar01 · 2019-09-27T10:09:24+00:00

Should have kissed him. Then you might have gotten laid.

Das_Teacher · 2019-09-27T10:54:43+00:00

As it was pointed out in other comments, your only mistake was taking him seriously in the first place, which in turn led to you being amogged. The fact that he was acting all bitchy is what makes it worse - you could've just stepped aside and he would've made a fool of himself.

What you should have done is raise your eyebrow, pass him his drink, turn around and exit the situation, leaving him to bitch and make himself look more butthurt with every sentence.

That being said, this is NOT a reason to replay this situation again and again in your mind. Learn the lessons and promise to act better next time, that's how you approach EVERY failure in your life - learn & work on your mistakes, while hushing the negative thoughts and memories. Always stay above the situation you're in, view it from third-person perspective mentally.

You'll do better next time, pal.

DeepProphet · 2019-09-27T13:39:06+00:00

That's not being amogged, that's you amogging your self. If someone did that to me I'd just smile at them and laugh regardless of their size. Just give their drink back and forget about it 30 seconds later.

Schhwing · 2019-09-27T14:23:12+00:00

Best thing is to imagine what brad Pitt would’ve done here: “my mistake man I’ll buy you another one”, then walk him to the bar and treat him like a friend and an equal. Now you’re friends with the host. Bingo status increase.

However you went to aggressively challenge the host for top position. You tried to AMOG the AMOG and he didn’t back down. His frame was stronger than yours. Something from the Laws of Power may be applicable here such as, never outshine the master.

Also giving a gift to someone makes them seem as though you’re an equal to them. Being powerful can also mean being diplomatic.

SeasonedRP · 2019-09-27T13:54:43+00:00

The guy was a clown and not worth wasting your time on. This isn't a huge deal and can be a good learning experience for you. When he started to get aggressive, the "flight or fight" instinct kicked in; in your case it said fight. This is a completely normal reaction, but it is not the best way to handle the situation. A better approach here, which you only learn through being in these situations, is to laugh it off and say something like no worries, let me buy you a drink, and then avoid the guy. He deserves a good beating, but leave that to the next person he does this to. You don't want to get into fights except as a last resort to defend yourself. Staying calm and having an air of amusement when someone is angry with you isn't the most natural reaction, but it is the best one.

Next time something like this happens, you'll know how to handle it and will do fine. Don't keep replaying it in your head.

ozaku7 · 2019-09-27T23:05:06+00:00

People make mistakes. You made a mistake, own up and apologize. But you do call him out on his bullshit. Hey man, sorry I took your drink, it was a mistake, but I would appreciate it if you would take back calling me an asshole. You see, arguments are in some sense a negotiation, and fists are for apes, or when you are dealing with a total retard.

Never hit first, because you want to be sure that when you hit that gut bleeding to the floor, that he 100% deserved it and you can go all out.

Thunderbird93 · 2019-09-30T16:43:21+00:00

Getting your ass kicked bruises the ego more than the body to be real. The body heals in weeks but the memories of getting stomped last forever. I went to college in Massachusetts, Gordon. Our rival school was Endicott. My lacrosse buddy had transferred to Endicott and we linked up and partied. One night I'm at the baseball players house and the party is whack so I grab 2 of my buddies and we head to Endicott. I meet a girl as we are walking through the campus(trying to meet my lacrosse buddy) and she invited us to her place. By then I'd drunk a bottle of whiskey already. She starts feeding me shots of tequila and we're getting handsy when these football players walk in. One of them says she's his girlfriend so me and my 2 buddies head out. They start swearing at me and I turn around. Long story short I fight 5 plus guys and get stomped. Black eye next morning, smoke a cigarette and keep it moving. Getting your ass kicked is overrated bruh, it only hurts the ego, the body heals

Mikeytikey123 · 2019-10-01T14:24:12+00:00

Nothing wrong here, you were in his house.

Say if you were in your house, and you were hosting the party. If something goes wrong there, you'll be going haywire trying to make sure nothing goes wrong. Now you're tall, but the only thing going through this guys mind was probably "This is my house, this is my house!" That's all the justification he needs to go all the way, and it's not logical because someone can be equally aggressive in any setting, but maybe you didn't realise he was essentially thinking in this way.

Only thing you could have done better is the recovery. Nobody gives a fuck. Most alpha guys will just say hey, fine, sorry here you go. You can't be alpha every second of every moment. There are bigger guys than you, guys that will go down fighting when you are not willing (like in this case) and, the worst of the worst, psycho maniac drug dealers that will knife you for no reason. Are you not alpha because you didn't take that knife in your liver while staring that beta drug dealer down like a man? No.

Forgetting altercations is a big part of alpha. Like we saw above there will always be places you must back down. Yes you are backing down. Are you beta? Technically yes. In that moment. But are you going to live a life of infinite pussy grabbing and everyone always averting their eyes for your highness? No. You need to back down at times, it's part of nature. Even hippos that literally cannot be fucked with, thanks to their skin being thick as your hand, get swatted by elephants. And sometimes an elephant is tired and won't want anything to do with hippos. It's just nature bro.

Just like with women, the next stages of alpha are IDGAF about whether you are stronger, IDGAF about you having more money, IDGAF about you taking my drink. It becomes IDGAF all the way down, with everything, and that's what we are achieving beyond pussy. It's just pussy tends to be first thing we do give a fuck about. So master that, and the others ones will trickle down.

LeanFatso · 2019-09-27T09:55:23+00:00

You got your little boo boo ego hurt, poor you.

In the grand scheme, you avoided way bigger problems e.g. being beaten by him and his friends (his party, right?), getting the police involved and so on.

peaceandlug · 2019-09-27T18:23:31+00:00

If your host is a cunt, you leave the party. If he insults you, you piss on the carpet or shit on the floor in the bathroom. Perhaps the bathtub. Before you LEAVE.

10211799107 · 2019-09-28T00:10:16+00:00

Own it if you fuck up. Smile and say you'll buy him another one or ask a girl to make him a strong one. "ah fuck I didn't notice, my bad man".

I don't say sorry to girls, but if a dude is cool and I did fuck up I'll own it. Becoming buddies with the host is preferred over you trying to save the blow to your ego.

Nicolas0631 · 2019-09-28T09:52:13+00:00

The correct way to handle such situations is to be cool, friendly and polite for the moment of the interration and then go back to what you were doing.

Something like "Oh sorry dude. Let's me fix that and bring you another one. What do you want ?" And then once you fixed your mistake to completely forget about that.

I don't get your idea that it is fine to not own that you did a mistake, to appear annoyed yourself about such trivial matters and to not be polite ?

Balderdash79 · 2019-09-28T15:02:41+00:00

You kissed a dude!

LOL

FreedomSweet2 · 2019-09-28T16:39:37+00:00

Too bad, dude! Not sure you even enjoyed that drink...lol. Glad you moved on. Shits happen.

SeemedGood · 2019-09-28T20:59:36+00:00

In similar situations I just proclaim my rule for everyone in earshot:

My drinking rule is that the fullest beer is always mine.

Makes light of mix ups humorously but assertively, and also works if someone takes your drink by mistake. With the additional benefit that if some rando wants to be an ass, he’ll be going against the humorous flow that you’re establishing.

juddshanks · 2019-09-30T05:20:27+00:00

As has been said plenty in this thread already, there's no reason to overcomplicate things , if you've fucked someone over, just acknowledge it's your bad, resolve it and move on.

If deep down you know you are in the wrong it's going to be much harder to maintain frame in a confrontation- because you're faking it rather than genuinely standing up for your rights.

rookieMale · 2019-09-30T18:20:26+00:00

Damn you JP. Why am i thinking of the lobsters here.

Your brain needs to dissolve now :/

Youngyoda89 · 2019-10-01T22:25:24+00:00

Omg I’m crying laughing. You’ve never been in a fight have you?

I was in a situation like this before. Except when the mother fucker didn’t back down neither did I. It was a fight I shouldn’t have initiated Bc I was too drugged out.

Fortunately he wasn’t a great fighter so I didn’t do so bad.

afterthe_fapocalypse · 2019-10-02T00:33:20+00:00

sounds like you're through it. breathe. I think people with egos hurt the most from all this. I got hit a lot as a child, and I forget just how little I was when it happened and blame myself even now for taking all that shit. not having an ego is a lot more peaceful.

by ego I mean: frame = being AMOG. that's dependent on others. you be AMOY. of yourself.

best thing is to guard your spirit. pray. you're an honest guy and you're someone I'd love to have as a friend. people get defeated, man. it happens. good thing you did owning up to it, otherwise, a person just goes crazy trying to pretend it didn't.

unfeeling2 · 2019-10-03T21:38:06+00:00

im from third world country we fight a lot i can help you with this

my advice is to fight him or this will hunt you.(not that scary for average man but someone who is aware of the redpill and trying to be "alpha")

dont listen to the advices here they will call you asshole for actually being an asshole but they are not you so they wont take your wellbeing into consideration.

YeahChaz · 2019-10-05T23:29:12+00:00

Situatons like this are why I got into BJJ and MMA. But believe or not those sports only made me more friendly and less eager to choke someone. My approach would be to say some goofy deadpool shit to show him I'm not easily hurt: "Oh you sure didn't want any of my herpes? No? alright sorry." Hand him the drink and go about business.

Title	Field report: first time I was really amogged
Author	xKalista
Upvotes	54
Comments	34
Date	September 27, 2019 9:48 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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