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Harsh truth here… complaining about normal female behavior makes you sound like a loser. Stop whining about it.

UGAlawdawg

April 28, 2013
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Title Harsh truth here… complaining about normal female behavior makes you sound like a loser. Stop whining about it.
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UGAlawdawg

Upvotes 67
Comments 56
Date April 28, 2013 7:12 PM UTC
(13 years ago)
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[–]TRP VanguardWhisper 29 points30 points31 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

complaining about normal natural female behavior makes you sound like a loser

Fixed that for you.

Normal behaviour is what most people are doing.

Natural behaviour is what most people are hardwired to do.

Hypergamy is natural to women, and criticizing them for profitless and mean-spirited, just like criticizing men for liking slender women with pretty faces and large breasts.

Selfish, entitled narcissism is not natural for women, but it is normal for modern American women, and it is a behaviour we can point out and correct.

[–]enticingasthatmaybe 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Natural behavior is what most people are hardwired to do.

The Scorpion and the Frog

I can't speak for anyone else, but I get way more out of sorts when confronted with hamster wheel rationalizations than with a woman's innate nature. I love women for what they are and how they naturally behave, I hate women for attempting to lie to me and themselves about how they naturally behave.

[–]frotes 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My favorite fable, describes so much of what is represented here

[–]grlthng3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Selfish, entitled narcissism is not natural for women, but it is normal for modern American women, and it is a behaviour we can point out and correct.

I agree with your other comments but I don't buy this. American women are more selfish and entitled because the US is the wealthiest country in the world and they have to rely less on men to get food and put a roof on their head. It is entirely natural for them under the context of the environment. There's nothing you can do to correct this except bomb the country back into the third world.

[–]SC0PE 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Very good point. I wish this was higher up so more guys would see it.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is imprtant to remember that your women cannot be your rock if things get hard. She is gonna bail. So keep this in mind. Do not sacrific for her expecting to be re-paid later.

[–]ReggieReddit 22 points23 points24 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The tiger had no prior history of violence."

I once cut out and highlighted this quote from a newspaper article about a man who jumped over the fence of a tiger exhibit in a local zoo. I taped that said news clipping to my desk at work. The reason, was to remind me to stop hamstering my work responsibilities to other people. This article is doing just that. TRP is about acknowledging our nature and becoming who we are supposed to be.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points28 points 13 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit this is the best subreddit ever. SO I've been browsing this for a while, and it's really starting to click. Our society was breeding behaviors incompatible with our natural predilections, causing dysfunctional outcomes.

[–]shamanbard 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Welcome to the red pill brother

[–]tmcoan 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a pretty fast growing group. I like seeing that it is still genuine after doubling in membership within the last couple months.

[–]MaunaLoona -5 points-5 points-5 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yes. You've been educated stupid. By your parents.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

My parents are both outstanding people.

[–]MaunaLoona -3 points-3 points-3 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

And yet they've almost condemned you to a blue pill life of sexual frustration.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Not really, I've had a relatively good life. I'm 27, just finished a military career. Back working on my studies, I have a 3 year old son and have had the spectrum of relationships, good and bad. I don't know how you garnered such an opinion from such brief things being said......

[–]Ethan47 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it's the assumed background for most people discovering 'the red pill'. Certainly describes me :) Anyway, welcome, always good to hear a new voice.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see. I just like how this subreddit drives forward the idea that relations are better when the male is assertive and confident. We've been under the impression that female empowerment automatically equals male disempowerment, when in fact, a truly free soceity allows both men and women to take whatever role they want, just don't be surprised when the results lead to an unsustainable relationship dynamic.

RedPill is like the Paleo Diet for relationships. Just err to nature.

[–]IntrovertSuccess 13 points14 points15 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Closely related to all those guys trying to logically debate the issue with women and try to point out logically inconsistencies in their thinking and behaviour. If you're still trying to do that then you still don't get it.

Don't change their mind, change their mood.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

I get what this is say but fuck this. Guys never get to vent about the shit that bothers them.

If something your girlfriend/wife/mistress whoever did feel free to vent about it. If you feel it in your gut then act on it.

[–]RedHonest 34 points35 points36 points 13 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Hypergamy is a paradox. Strictly speaking, there can only be one, or a few, alpha's in any society.

But we're teaching game on how large portion of men can emulate an alpha.

So here's the paradox: Alpha's aren't passive aggressive, they're active aggressive. They don't vent about their problems, they deal with them, usually by some sort of violence.

Yes, this doesn't work in modern society. But this is why female instincts don't take well to venting, passive aggressiveness, and insecurity. Above everything else, women want to feel secure. Venting about your problems to your girlfriend signals insecurity, even if everything is fine logically. As much as you want your girlfriend, or your wife, to love you when you're down, to validate you when you're stressed, women just don't work that way.

Women act in that manner towards people they form maternal bonds to, but never to "her man". And if she does act with maternal care and compassion towards you, then you now have something else to worry about. First notice that you're having sex less often...

As a corollary, if you want your girlfriend or wife to adore you, and be legitimately turned on by you, see how different things become when you really start succeeding. Then she carefully reads your emotions, offers consolation at your least distress, reads distress even when it isn't really there, opens up to you and asks you to do the same, and goes crazy when you aren't around. She becomes like a puppy who barks when you leave, wags her tail and runs all around the room when return home, and won't eat or drink without you there.

Women love you most when you need them least; love you least when you need them most. Sorry guys.

[–]5F42DE47BC 19 points20 points21 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is why I'm backing off on wanting a gf so hard.

They don't even have what I want. Why tear myself up over something they'll never give me anyway?

[–]SC0PE 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Get some good bros. You can bitch to other guys about whatever you want and we won't judge you. The only way you can ever really get in bad with a bro is by messing with his woman, stealing, or lying.

Good guy friends also make great wingman. Just be careful not to use a wingman as a crutch for when you feel uncomfortable in a new place.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is the key right here. Lean on your brothers for support. Fuck your girlfriend for the stress relief.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"Women love you most when you need them least;"

THIS. Times a million.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes the quickest way to dry up a pussy is to display vulnerability.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She becomes like a puppy who barks when you leave, wags her tail and runs all around the room when return home, and won't eat or drink without you there.

This is so fucking true it isnt funny. Me and the wife own some dogs and she complains because they do that shit, and i just give her the raised-eyebrow "seriously bitch?" look.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

MMSL covers this. You vent to other guys, not to your wife. It's called emotional vomit and women hate that.

[–]Wiskie 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

This. Or give your mom a call. Haha

[–]SC0PE 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Mom is the only woman that will ever love you for who you truly are, assuming she isn't brainwashed by some religion into hating you for whatever reason.

Daughters come close but you have to be a kickass father for that to happen. With Mom you can literally be a serial killer and she will still love and take your secrets to the grave.

[–]brosephthebroengine 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And by religion you mean feminism, right?

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same thing in the extremes.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just vent to other guys.

[–]delta_hedge 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

i dont agree, especially since he is referring to "husband" behaviour, implying marriage.

marriage is a rigged game : of course you can complain about it. stopping to whine about a rigged game and just keep playing it is one of the dumbest advices i have ever heard, taking the same line as shaming the men. on this point, athol seems totally wrong.

if you dont want to complain, the only choice you have is to not play the game.

[–]UGAlawdawg 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What do you mean "rigged"?

[–]Modredpillschool 19 points20 points21 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cash prizes for one gender.

[–]RedHonest 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

Good reminder for me about that guys need to be leading. Women are passive creatures...they just are. Don't leave it up to a woman to make a decision, an actual decision.

Sometimes my girlfriend even asks me to make decisions for her. Like she'll ask me if I want omelettes or breakfast burritos for breakfast. I've learned quickly to pick one at random even if I have no preference. Don't put the question back at her. Making decisions is frustrating for women. They run on their feelings most of the time, another sort of passivity.

To make a decision is to impose yourself on the world. If you're not fine with that, you're no man.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Dude, even my ex-wife wants me to make decisions for her. I was so surprised at this... I thought after divorce, she'd want her own life but NOPE, she still harasses me to make decisions for her like work and kids. Fucking annoying as hell.

[–]Terminal-Psychosis 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

With all respect man, and I believe this is what the article was saying, why are you so annoyed by that behavior?

She is not your wife anymore, what do you have to gain or loose by her wanting you to make her decisions? She is a woman, and if you believe that is what they do, there is no use tormenting yourself about it.

If you continue to make her decisions, and are unhappy with that, then by all means be annoyed with your own behavior, and change it!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Err, I don't find it annoying when my daughter asks me to make decisions for her. I do find it annoying when I am doing my best to divorce my ex and she is doing her best to remain engaged. That's the annoying part. Yes I know, she is only basically functional without leadership.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

And the minute she finds another man to replace you, she'll stop it. So I suggest you only be there for your daughter and not your ex-wife.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope, she was still harassing me when she had a boyfriend. It got worse when they broke up but I understood what was happening and pulled back so she would get the message. She sent me pictures and dozens of emails in the span of 2 days.

Did not reply to one.

[–]Terminal-Psychosis -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I do feel for ya man. Divorce can be messy. I'd say just concentrate on the parts that are actually good for YOU, like your daughter. Again, no reason to get upset about a woman's behavior, especially when you're already (mostly) disengaged. Turn your heart stony to her. You don't need to worry one bit what she thinks anymore. :)

If it still hurts a lot, maybe you need some more happy in your life? Do one thing a day just for you. That's always good advice. Wish ya well.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're reading something that isn't there! I don't care what she thinks at all. She knows (indirectly) that I'm spinning multiple plates and I have no intention of settling down. She's been trying to get me back into her clutches for months now. It's not gonna happen, lady! Enjoy the wall ;)

[–]rkg-pua0 points 13 years ago [recovered] (4 children) | Copy Link

Fucking annoying as hell.

Derp, then stop talking to her. Genius.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Since we have kids in common, there are times when I do have to interact with her. I only talk to her over email. She manages to work in the following to each conversation:

  1. We should be friends
  2. Make some decision for me

AHH!

Sometimes she leaves voicemails even though she knows I don't want to talk to her on the phone or hear her voice.

Fucking child.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You say "Unless it's about the kids, I don't want to talk to you."

The kids are the only thing that connect the two of you. Let her find some other man to lead her around.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No man is going to enjoy her company. I only stuck around so long because of the kids which was a bad decision.

[–]RedHonest -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Email is great. It means you only have to talk to her about what you want to talk about. Reply to only what you care about, or change the subject and she'll get the message.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–]RedHonest 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh...you misunderstood my comment as an attempt to persuade a hostile, not to mention dense, audience.

Or better yet, you approached my comment already biased, jaded, and with emotions already boiling red from the content of this subreddit, and felt the compulsion to jab at any comment whatsoever, and mine just happened to be a convenient one to stab at.

But I've spent too much time already responding to...this.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]RedHonest 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nailed it.

As an aside, I didn't determine your sex until you mentioned it. I was judging purely from the content of your post.

[–]socal83 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

therefor women are inferior

nobody here said anything about inferiority. we're just talking about what WORKS, and what DOESN'T WORK.

projection.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–]socal83 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

well now that you mention it, that is true.

[–]MustardCosaNostra 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a really good point. I have no excuses.

I can't complain about women wanting contradictory things like I did yesterday. Those women are crazy anyway and not worth my time. I swear upon this sub, I will never complain about normal female behavior ever again. You have my word gentlemen..

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