Listen i'm all about lifting, building muscle to look good but that's where it ends. What my point is what does that muscle do besides become a fashion of just some eye candy for a chick? If you want to build muscle and be able to use it, join something like a MMA gym. I've never been so torn up and push my self to the limit of working out and then the benefit of being able to fight like a beast. You want to be RP? Know how to fucking defend yourself. Don't be those over huge guys that don't know shit about throwing a punch. Not saying go out and look for a fight, you defend yourself and make those pussys start to drip. Cheers gentlemen.