Male sexual needs = female commitment needs

HumanSockPuppet · 2017-03-31T17:15:11+00:00

Men have sexual strategies (that btw are quite counterproductive and tend to overcomplicate things that originally are just simple).

What gets overcomplicated, and how?

Women have bonding strategies.

No. Women have resource extraction strategies. Bonding is a comical evolutionary hack that nature came up with to make women stick around long enough to ensure pregnancy occurs.

A man can be totally happy living a life without women and all the drama and retarded bullshits that comes with them.

Perhaps.

BUT, he need women because his biology tell him that he NEED to have sex, it is a biological need.

It's not a biological need. It is a want impelled by instinct and hormonal mechanism. You won't die if you don't have sex.

Biology/nature created the men women pieces like a puzzle, both need something from the other, and both have something the other part need.

This is correct. Men and women are like symbiotic organisms, each exploiting the other, and sometimes taking advantage of the other, for personal gain.

Men have porn and prostitutes, women have orbiters and social networks.

The free market responds with whatever is in demand. Sex for men, and a network of available sperm and resource donors for women.

You're on the right track, but your ideas need more refinement. Keep working at it.

MattyAnon · 2017-03-31T18:13:55+00:00

Disagree.

It would be nice to have the view that "Equality is a real thing, TRP is just a different kind of equality". But this world view is utterly wrong.

Men and women are fundamentally different and there is no equality between us. There are winners and losers but two different genders cannot fundamentally be equal. (Except in some useless "we're all human" type of thinking).

What OP is missing is how fundamentally women crave alphas... They don't care much for betas, but they'll crawl over broken glass for alpha sex.

You DO NOT have to exchange commitment for sex. This is a beta mindset. Women will have sex for the sake of it, you don't need to dangle commitment in front of them to motivate them to do this.

Deapluv · 2017-03-31T15:38:01+00:00

I disagree. If anything women have greater sexual needs and optimize their lives to satisfy them. The distinction is that women take advantage of the fact that men will "fuck down"... ie a 8/10 smv man is ok with fucking a 6/10 smv woman. Hypergamy keeps women always fucking up.

The woman will build a circle of orbiters but this doesn't mean she has a lesser biological need for sex, it is in fact HIGHER and she will be having more sex than most men do, just not with her orbiters, instead with a carousel of chads.

The idea that women has a lesser sex drive or lower biological need for sex is a myth.

grewapair · 2017-03-31T23:40:50+00:00

Any guy who thinks women in general have a lower sex drive than men, I've got news for you. You're ugly.

For the right guy, most woman will drag him off to bed. You aren't that guy. Either you change your appearance, or you're just going to get used endlessly.

Sit next to a ridiculously good looking guy at a bar for a night. I did, and it's an eye-opening experience. I learned a few things that night, but mostly I learned I'm ugly.

Had I known that 20 years previously, I would have saved a lot of time and anguish, and could have been doing far more productive things. Certainly, if your problem is something you can change, go ahead.

If not, you'll occasionally have some successes, but women will generally treat you like dirt and withhold sex, except the minimum they think they can get away with to cause you to act the way they want (If they want to keep you around, they'll give you the minimum it takes to keep you around, if they want you to marry them so they can use or take your resources, they'll give you much more -- until you do). Most women want to have sex, but not with ugly guys. The only difference is that guys are horn dogs and will sometimes have sex with an ugly girl.

But make no mistake: the way you've described women only proves one thing: you're ugly.

Neverd0wn · 2017-03-31T15:22:11+00:00

The biological need for women to have kids almost certainly requires a dick in them. However this biological need only starts to materialize after a certain age.

brinkleybuzz · 2017-03-31T16:09:26+00:00

Women instead, can live a happy life without dicks, they don't have the same biological NEED for sex as men do.

Absolutely not true. Women are hard wired to need the D. The reproductive drive can actually be stronger in women. If you've been around enough ovulating women you'll know what I'm talking about.

The distinction between men and women is they are more selective. Most men will fuck an average woman but most women won't fuck an average man.

aanarchist · 2017-03-31T19:45:34+00:00

what the woman wants is to feel that she won't be abandoned by her alpha male, but what she has to accept is that it's entirely in her control whether or not he stays with her, it all depends on how she treats him in the relationship. he doesn't need to be monogamous with her even, sex is just a small part of any relationship, there's so much more a woman can do to keep her place secure.

theoctopuss · 2017-03-31T18:25:36+00:00

Men are wired for survival. When it comes down to it, men will get done what needs to be done. Women are wired to manipulate men into ensuring their own survival.

Considering how we don't intrinsically need them, women literally have only one thing to offer: reproduction. They're going to over-value their pussy because it's the only thing they have. When they're younger, they think that this means they can only smash on the best looking guys. Most women also have low self-esteem, so if a guy is good enough they'll give it up ASAP in an attempt to sink their claws into him. As they come closer to the wall, they start to realize that their only bargaining chip is rapidly losing value and the Chads don't want them anymore.

For most women, they'll find a Beta Bob with inferior genes and try to stay on the carousel until rejection becomes too painful. Some of them skip the Beta Bob and just ride the carousel until rejection becomes too painful.

Magistario · 2017-03-31T19:45:10+00:00

yeah, and what a game it is.

Lets sum it up shall we?

We get sex (if she has no migraine or other things) in the first years then it will decline over time possibly to zero. If we look for our needs somewhere else (cause we still have em), we get a divorce and pay half our stuff.

She gets commitment, 24/7 for the rest of our life. If we dont deliver, she gets a divorce and takes half our stuff.

Its like playing Poker with your cards facing towards the other players. What a game eh?

I_Tow_My_Own_Line · Wed Apr 5 17:50:51 2017 UTC

Stop using the word "just" and learn to speak without it. I can't recall where I learned that...perhaps here.

Regardless, I learned it signals weakness and the need to somewhat preface what you're about to say with an apology.

By learning not to use that, I've found myself speaking with more conviction and authority.

Thwartthis · 2017-03-31T16:04:30+00:00

This makes a lot of sense. Queen Elizabeth the First can be considered an extremely alpha woman through this lens. She basically turned the counts, princes and kings of Europe into beta orbiters, dangling the possibility of marriage but never committing to any one of them. Through this strategy England enjoyed a prolonged period of peace. She died a virgin.

dawmazing · 2017-03-31T14:50:50+00:00

I like this a lot. I've been thinking about the subconscious reality of gender dynamics recently, cool to see it all fleshed out.

heartsonhips · Fri Mar 31 16:25:13 2017 UTC

I don't know. I know I am oversexed from childhood trauma and not the norm, but I have never had a boyfriend able to quite keep up with me sexually. I like sex constantly and my brain will start to fog if I go long without it. The thing is, I can't be attracted to randos - has to be a relationship.

Johnnyvile · 2017-04-04T14:11:30+00:00

I was watching the Joe Rogan Experience and he had a good point. Many guys will lie to women about being in love to get sex. Women will lie about it just being sex but they really want the relationship. Both sides lie to appease the other side from different angles. This leads to two people being in a shitty relationship.

BrainDojo · 2017-03-31T22:08:54+00:00

Watching you ignorant sock fuckers self servingly pontificate about shit you know nothing about goes right past pitifully hilarious and back to legitimately painful. If I cringed any harder reading this I would get the kind of brain damage I assume you all deal with everyday.

Title	Male sexual needs = female commitment needs
Author	nicetimeisback
Upvotes	116
Comments	44
Date	March 31, 2017 1:34 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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