Minimum Investment, Maximum Return

A work colleague, George, was recently complaining to me that he barely gets any sex from his wife. The ‘once a month’ scenario most married guys seem to be in. He told me that in protest he’s not going to have sex with her any more. “I’m not going to have sex with her, see how she likes it.”

Now, I’ve been with my wife for 13 years. At the start of the 13th year is when I stumbled across TRP. Lucky 13 for me! So I’ve been applying variations of the Red Pill formula to suit a married life… but I’ll get to that another time.

But back to George… In my pre-TRP days I’d done the same thing as George is doing now. Complaining, protesting, being a good boy, withholding sex… everything. But nothing fixes the situation of being drip-fed sex. Nothing.

So I explain to George that him withholding sex is great for her! It’s what she wants!

If George will keep in line, do as he’s told, go to work, pay the bills… do everything she says and she only has to put out to him once a month then that’s a great investment for her.

If she only has to put out once every two months and George will still do everything she wants… WOW! She has, basically, doubled her return!

Minimum Investment, Maximum Return.

But at the time I didn’t have a solution for him. But after events in my own relationship I do now.

After a month of no sex for me, one Sunday morning she says to me “want to have sex”? It was due. Her payment date had come. But I said No. No, “I don’t want to have sex with you anymore. I’m done with this arrangement. I deserve better from you.”

Well this spiralled into me raging at her. In the past after a month of no sex I’d be the beta guy basically being a wimp, sobbing, whining… practically begging for sex. But me saying no to her I effectively cut off her method of payment.

We went back and forth about how she doesn’t have time for me, she’s too tired, blah blah blah… She came out with “Why don’t you do something romantic for me?” Well, this was a key moment on the turnaround in our relationship.

I respond with “Because you don’t fucking deserve it!” And she was gob smacked! So I laid it out to her “You don’t spend time with me, you don’t touch me, you don’t pay attention to me. You don’t even look at me! So why the fuck would I do something romantic for you!? So you want me to lavish all this time, money and attention on you and you’ll reward me with sex? You can go fuck yourself! I deserve better than that!

I didn’t know what was going to happen in the days, weeks, months after that moment. But she folded. I had regained control by taking away her only method of payment. Now she is in debt to me.

Now, she shows much more care and attention to me. I no longer accept her form of payment and she has to find other ways to pay off her debt.

There is more to this situation, such as me doing what I’m told, everything her way, everything her decision… to now, basically, I’ll do what the fuck I want. The kids and I are not going to sit around waiting for you to tell us what to do any more. That’s all stuff for another thread. But it’s all due to applying Red Pill theories to an existing long term marriage/relationship. And it’s working for me!

I’m not using TRP as a way to plate women and get laid. I’m using it to better understand women’s mindsets and how to treat/deal with them.

I’m no longer constantly focusing on trying to make her happy all the time because that just made me miserable. It’s about me making me happy.

TL/DR: Women are driven by money. So treat your relationship with them the same way. They want minimum investment/maximum return. The only way to stop that is to refuse their regular payment methods.

edit Adding this bit in here because of a few comments about raging over not getting sex. The argument started as her saying "do you want to have sex?" And me saying no. I dont want to have sex with her any more because Im not accepting it as a form of payment or reward for behaviour. So no, I dont want to have sex with you.

Her responses were along the lines of "Thats silly, now youre being silly. Just have sex with me" To which I kept saying no. She asked "why dont you want to have sex with me?" I said "I want to have sex with someone who wants to have sex with me." That lead to her saying "Im tired, Im busy, yadda yadda" to which I was responding with Yeah, whatever. Palming it off. Then shes "but I do want to have sex with you" And I was "No you dont. If you did, you would. But you dont." Then it was "Ill do better. We will have sex more. And I said "no we wont. You say that every time. Theyre just excuses. Youre lying to me." Then she came out with "Why dont you do something romantic for me?"

While some of you are focused on the sex issue here that isnt what this is about. This is about regaining control and my own sence of satisfaction and self worth in the relationship. Up until a two years ago (before I found TRP) I was going to the gym five nights a week. It didnt matter, she still paid no attention to me because I was still 'acting' like a beta.