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[–]Senior Contributordeepthrill 12 points13 points14 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I recently gave my two-weeks' notice at work and am planning on moving far away (couple hundred miles) for a new job within a couple weeks. One of the girls at my job is an eastern European chick who sees pretty eye-to-eye with me on many things (including American feminism), and is someone whom I respect.
She's recently been interested in hanging out alone with me, such as going to bars and dinner (she adamantly insists she pays for half of everything before the bill ever even comes).
Friday night I had a few friends from work over for drinks (her included) and after everybody left she texted me, asking me to continue a story we were discussing that night about something inappropriate.
I told her that she couldn't handle the end of the story, but if she came back over she would find out in person. She lapped that right up and said she wanted to come back but shouldn't drive because she was drinking. She started changing the topic slightly, so I just said, "So you're not coming back here?" She asked if I could handle her and after a simple "Yes." she said I should have fought for her to stay over before she left. I said I'm not fighting for that, she should have just stayed. Once I realized she wasn't coming back over, I said good night and went to sleep.
She contacted me the next day (Saturday) asking if I wanted to hang out that night at my place. I said sure come over at 8pm and she said great she'll bring us both some food. She came over and after eating we started hooking up. She didn't let it progress too far but seemed to really want it. It was her "anti-slut defense". She said that we need to take it slow, but her body said otherwise. I simply had this mentality that it was her loss if she didn't want to go further. I gently pushed forward as much as I felt comfortable, but at the end of the night said I think she should leave. I don't care if her body says yes - if she says no I'm not gonna be at the sour end of a non-consensual allegation. It's not worth it for me since I can get other girls (abundance vs. scarcity mentality).
Last night she contacted me again and asked when she could see me again. I said I don't know, maybe in a few days. She said that wasn't good enough. So I said perhaps Monday night and she said she wanted that. So here we are on Monday. I expect she'll come over tonight, and I'll have to give a Tuesday field report!
Analysis: She has always thought of me as the alpha our group at work. People look up to me for advice, etc., and she has always had a lot of respect for me. Now that she realizes I'm leaving in a few short weeks, that time constraint has made her want to pursue a sexual relationship with me with a faster timetable. But she still doesn't want to think of herself as slutty so she won't give in to her desire to sleep with me when we do hook up. Her body says otherwise, and I could clearly see the conflict in her face. But the fact that I said I don't care if we don't do anything, and push her away a little when she tries to see me makes her realize I can have other girls and makes her want me more. It's an abundance mentality. Now she just needs to go through the requisite # of times in her head before sleeping with me so she feels justified and self-respected.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems like her visa is expiring and she is researching options. Be careful.
[–]MayorMoonbeam 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She is a WOFT - waste of fucking time
[–]why_downvote_mods 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
probably next time she'll be ready
[–]Lupo3825 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Dear Scott,
I know you want to consider me a friend, and I'd have no reason to treat you as any less as well. But seriously how did you not fuck Ashley properly. I know she never sucked your Dick in how long if dating? Guess who's going to sick his cock down her throat later again today. Friday she wasn't bad at it either. I was supposed to go over to her place last night, but canceled because of work today. Her full Slut came out trying to get me to come over. "you should sup by to warm up and say hi" "too bad you didn't make it, I was wearing something naughty" all texts designed to keep me in line. She has tried this since we started fooling around, and knows she can't control me. But damned if her panties aren't wet when I tell her I'm coming over. She told me you want to move back to MN, and get back with her. DON'T DO IT! Sure you're good with her kids, and you and her get along, but you deserve better than her. Just stop swallowing TBP and you can see so much for yourself. Until then, pound her like the Slut she is, and move to the next plate.
Me
[–]UselessMaxims 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Send this to Scott. Word it a little more... constructive, but if you consider him a friend, treat him as such.
[–]trudatness 28 points29 points30 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Um.. Lets see...
Friday night was a little boring, Wife and I went out for dinner - corporate chain steakhouse. Not bad. We stopped off and grabbed a movie out of the kiosk box dealio. Went home, decided to save the movie and watched TV instead. She put our son to bed, red him stories and stuff. I surfed the internet a little bit. Wife started having beers after son went to sleep. I don't drink, but she does on occasion. She drank 4 or 5 while we watched TV. She got all horny from being tipsy and blew me on the couch. We went to bed and I banged it good and hard. Afterwards she fell asleep snoring like a freight train. I went back on the Internet for maybe an hour and went to bed for good.
Son woke us up early Saturday. Wife put him in the bathtub after a little while of laughing and cuddling with him in our bed. While our son was busy playing in the bath, broke out the wife's vibe and put it on her clit while I fucked her hard. She came so damn hard I think the sheets sucked up her ass a bit. Got up, made coffee, wife asked me to make breakfast - I made us an omelet with the leftover steak we brought home (I diced it up with onions and tomatoes). We had breakfast during hanging out around the house for a few hours in the AM. Shortly after noon, we leave the house. First, we drop the dog off at the groomers. He was looking pretty shaggy, so we decided to get him taken care of. We took our son to the park a few blocks across the street from the new house we bought (closing on it in 2 weeks) to check it out. We spend about 45 mins there. He loves it so much he doesn't want to leave. We go get some ice cream, next. My son ate his entire cone, I was impressed. On to the public library. I take my son there on occasion. He finds some books and movies he likes. We check them out and leave. We pick up the dog and bring him home.
We head next to two different electronics stores (doing some research on a new 75" LED 3D and accompanying theater surround I'm getting for the new house.) My son is being very good and patient with us browsing and shopping, so we go to a nearby toy store and let him pick out something.
We're getting hungry again, so we stop at a nearby eatery that specializes in 5 way chili-mac (a guilty pleasure of mine). We head home.
We watch the movie I rented (Pacific Rim) and my son loves it. What little boy doesn't love a good story about fighting robots?
After the movie, everyone was getting a little tired. Wife tucked son in and we both went to bed afterwards.
Woke up Sunday AM. Son decides to play in his room with new toy instead of coming in and waking up wife and I. I go check on him in his room when I wake up. He's happy playing. I go back to the bedroom - wife is waking up. I decide I want doggie style. She gets on her hands and knees and I go to work on it. After she gets off from playing with herself during penetration, she does this trick where she strokes my cock while I fuck her from behind. I come in like a minute after she starts doing that. We both laugh afterwards when I make a joke about her doing that to hurry things along so she can have coffee.
We get up and my son watches Pacific Rim a second time. After that, I watch 3 games of football in a row - monitoring my fantasy team and talking shit online to my buddies. My brother sends me texts of himself at the Bucs-Falcons game. He got tickets 10-15 rows up from the 50 yard sideline. Ridiculous tickets.
Bucs destroy the Falcons and I tell him he needs to be at the all the games from now on.
This is a make or break week for me in my Fantasy league. I'm like 4 points in second place in total points, but only 5-5. Everyone seems to have their best game against me. Pisses me off. Looks like I'm going to win even though it's going to come down to tonight's game, but I digress.
Kind of a typical weekend for me. Married life.
[–]QualityControlled 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You have what I hope to find.
I'm raising my glass to you now.
[–]trudatness 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I had to learn the hard way what to avoid. The second time around I was smarter.
The first time I went into marriage blindly with an unrealistic expectation. I did not see all the blatant warning signs:
I'll spare you the details of her many varied personality flaws.
The point is, with relationships, you rarely (never) can make chicken salad from chicken shit. A woman who is a selfish bitch is not going to be a good partner. I may be oversimplifying things here, but being an "alpha" will enable you to automatically filter out women you don't want to be with.
A marriage is more than a romantic relationship. Your wife is your best friend. You don't want to be best friends with an asshole.
We all want a hot POA, but you have to be more concerned with finding a woman who is thoughtful, kind and considerate of your wants and needs.
She has to give a shit about you.
In this day and age, most women out there only give a shit about themselves. They only see a husband as someone who is there for them. They expect you to sacrifice everything while they get everything - and if you're lucky and they are in a charitable mood - you'll get some pussy once in a while. This is not the woman you want to spend the rest of your life with. This kind of woman has the brain of a selfish adolescent. They shouldn't be taken seriously. You give these kinds of bitches the pump and dump.
The second part of the equation is being able to truly recognize when you have a keeper on your hands.
Let me give you a hint... When you're 25 or younger... It's like the riddle of the sphinx. Partially because you lack the life experience to properly sort through wanted and unwanted behaviors - and partially because just about every woman your age overvalues their SMV and acts like an asshole.
After 35 it becomes ridiculously easy. You see through bullshit naturally. There's little to no riddle at all - and if there is you don't waste your time with it. Women in your target age bracket hear each tick-tock of their bio clock ringing like a gong in their brains. They are desperate and humble. If you're smart, you find one who actually has a heart and is capable of love. You can go in with hand, and maintain hand, yes... But finding one who was raised right, who understands good family values, who is capable of thinking about someone other than themselves is huge. That's most of the challenge.
[–]getintheVans 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wonderful.
[–]trudatness 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah dude, I'm like the "It gets better" example for TRP
[–]Party_Liquor 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good for you man. We mostly see the bad side of relationships hear. It's nice to here some good stories.
[–]Gstreetshit 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Fellow married guy here. Sounds like a pretty good weekend and that you have a good wifey.
[–]trudatness 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah she's good. First wife was a selfish cuntbarge.
I did way better second time around.
She does actually give a shit about my happiness. That's huge. Most women I've met only give a shit about themselves. Wifey is a person of good moral character, possessing both empathy and pragmatism. When I recognized those qualities, I knew she was worthy of partnership.
[–]Gstreetshit 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Good for you man. Many men are not as fortunate. Luckily I have an amazing wife as well.
[–]trudatness 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Without a doubt shedding yourself of the beta is a big part of being successful with relationships, but also being a good judge of character is important as well.
[–]Gstreetshit 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Something that has helped me personally in any LTR is to have a core set of values going in to it that you will not betray, even under pain of death. That keeps you from becoming a pushover and subsequently being viewed as a beta bucks.
[–]trudatness 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your core values should help you filter unworthy candidates out of the LTR equation. Bitches who will constantly challenge you in a relationship, trying to push you into beta mode are selfish nit-wits you should avoid at all costs. No man needs that fucking hassle.
Set yourself up for success by not giving these cuntbarges the time of fucking day - beyond the pump and dump.
If you give a girl you think might be worthy a shot and she starts exhibiting the telltale signs of cunt-ness - kick her to the goddamn curb post-haste. Fuck that. Your risk is too high and you have too much to lose. Life is too short to waste on solipsistic, insular selfish, nit-wit, cunt bitches.
When you fully grasp the extent of the risk you take in relationships and in marriage, it puts all the stupid head games in the proper perspective. What they want and what they are trying to do is no small matter. You have but one life to live, don't fucking waste it being a sucker to some dumb cunt.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Since this is literally empty i guess I'll start with this weeks report to kick us off.
Friday - Saved by the cockblock
Got a call from a friend asking if i could pick him up after my set because he gets free booze at his venue and genuinely thinks he works better hammered. Maybe he does. Anyway i agree but tell him not to make a habit of it because doing so takes me like 20 miles out of my way and means i cant pull because i wont have the time.
In the event, i was grateful i agreed. Earlyish in the night i see what looks at the time like a stunning blonde, hair up in a bun, great figure wearing a very respectable past the knee pencil skirt and a cream blouse. I can tell from the fact that she's wearing this outfit (effectively business wear) in such a shitty dive that she's almost certainly older than she looks. And she looks in disco lighting around 30-32.
She starts giving me extreme IOI, i know its good to hold their eye contact, but this girl is staring every few minutes and holding my eye like she wanted to devour me for what seemed like forever. I indulge her for a while, but i know i cant fuck her tonight so i have little interest in running direct game. So i kind of just leave her alone.
She comes over at about 1am, immediately starts running kino on ME! Running her hands down my shoulders, rubbing my triceps, my chest. But its at this point that i note the effects of the disco lighting, this girl is not 30-32. In fact I'd be surprised if she was less than 45. Wouldnt have argued if she'd said 50. I mean dont get me wrong this girl took care of herself, but the weathering was obvious. I dismissed her immediately and didnt look twice at her. But I'm glad of the cockblocking because i know if it hadnt been in place I'd have probably ended up fucking her. And immediately regretting it.
Saturday
Not sure what happened to me on Saturday. Early in the night there were hot girls around but IOI was thin on the ground and where i did have avenues that presented themselves something was holding me back. I have no idea what, i just didn't really seem to want to game, even though there were girls there i would have loved to fuck. Later in the night i had some sort of attack. I cant say with certainty what went on from a medical point of view but I'm fairly confident my blood pressure skyrocketed for reasons unknown. Veins popping out the back of my hands, massive overheating, dizzy, confusion, loss of hand-eye co-ordination. Ended up stripped down to my under armour compression top in an attempt to reduce my temperature and this brought some eyes my way, but i cant be sure if it was positive or negative. Either way i was in no position to exploit it. The weekend came to another unsuccessful end.
[–][deleted] 12 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
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[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You had a chance to take a run at Oona Chaplin, and you passed? You're nuts.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, that was what I was thinking, just for the awesome factor.
And I'm a big fan of the show also.
[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There's nothing special about Oona Chaplin. She's just totally my type. Slender face, high cheek bones, and long straight dark hair.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She is a very attractive woman I agree with that.
[–]drrtyfrrnr 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had a pretty good weekend and learned a lot. Both my plates were unavailable so I took the opportunity to keep on top of the game.
The last weekend, I found a stash of The Pick-Up Artist Season 2 videos on my hard drive and spent some time watching them. It was inspiring watching these gameless losers become actual men in the field, and I felt pumped to replicate that. Cold approaching is not my strong suit.
Saturday, I got myself pumped up with some good music beforehand and some mojitos at home, then me and my buddy hit up a couchsurfing meetup. There were three girls and a guy, and I simply took over the group. I am not good at cold approach but when I'm part of the group I can completely take it over when I'm in the mood.
It was awesome. More people joined, and I held my frame as leader of the group. At one point I had four beautiful women guessing my nationality. That kind of stuff intimidates other guys too, they are all buddy-buddy bc they see you have value in the girls' eyes.
Then we went inside, and I started out talking to the wrong girl. Then after that, the hot girls left but not before my buddy got one their number - the hottest one's. Let's see if that goes anywhere and if so, maybe we'll see her friends again.
As this was going on, I opened a 2-set behind me. The fat one was a massive cockblock. I rolled off, but stayed in place and with body language, demonstrated value and that IDGAF. Re-opened them, and disarmed the cockblock with a heart-to-heart, "You look like you're scared of me or don't trust me. You know, I'm just a regular guy hanging out with my friends and having fun. Do you like to have fun?"
She nodded yes and visibly warmed up. Later on she was smiling and laughing more. Then as our group was rolling out, I asked for the pretty one's number but she said she had a bf. No biggy.
Then on Sunday afternoon I organized a brunch. I had my pick of ladies, everyone eating out of the palm of my hand and instadated two girls (me and my buddy) with a walk along the river. Sadly we didn't escalate sexually, although I got one to be comfortable with my touch and I think it's on. However, she wasn't my original target, because my original target wasn't feeling me as much. We went from meeting these two girls for the first time to bringing them up to our apartment where they oohed-and-aahed at the view. We are still trying to figure out whether we should try to get them out on dates or keep them around as friends. My buddy is not in as strong a position with his girl as I am with mine. What do you guys think?Friend-zone them as DHV and social proof or game them to the limit?
[–]nSaneMadness 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Walk in to work Saturday night, catch a glimpse of a vendor. Can't help but to check her out, and I notice a subtle shift in the way she's walking. Glance over at my co-worker, "She knows someone's checking her out." "Why's that?" "More sway in her hips than when I walked in."
Few minutes later I walk by her again, and her area is overflowing, look her in the eye and offer a smirk, "Hope no one over here's claustrophobic." She responds with a laugh and I walk past. I walk through a few minutes later, I lock her eyes and stop. She stops what she's doing. "Simple questions for ya." "Okay..." "Your name, your number." She smiles, blushes, and breaks eye contact, "Well you're straight forward." "Ain't got time for games." She reinitiates eye contact, "My names J. I can spell that for you if you want." Pull out my phone and hand it to her, "You can just add it with your number." A small amount of banter, she hands back my phone. I start to walk away, and she shouts "Hey wait! What's your name?" "So you do want to know." She turns away, smiling, still blushing, but looking at me out of the corner of her eye. Start to walk away and offer up my name casually over my shoulder.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Started applying a bit of RP in my daily life, and one of the bits of advice I got (I forgot where from) was to walk like you expected everyone to move for you. (A purposeful walk) I noticed that it seemed to be working. And then yesterday a 7/10ish (Russian girl though so that probably puts her a bit higher on the American scale) told me that I walk like I expect everyone to get out of my way and that she would always have to go around me. Is this a good thing because I am demonstrating that I will not move for a girl and that I have a purpose to my walk?
Edit: I just remembered that about two weeks before this incident, a girl told me to stop "trying to walk like I owned the world". Is this a good sign or am I coming off too cocky as I walk?
[–]reedrichardsstretch2 points 12 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
They're testing you. Don't change.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is what I figured. I have noticed a ton of pushback lately from people who knew me as my beta self, and I figured that is what it was. I just wanted to get some feedback.
[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Summery of all Monday field reports: 1)Saw hot girl. 2)Used cool new pickup line I read on the internet: Whats new Buckeroo! 3) Was Rejected! But making Progress.
[–]libchh 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link
not a lot to say but hey. The lady I've been seeing wanted to fly with me to Prague for the weekend, not sure if she suggested to treat me or something but I declined the offer. She had previously told me it was "this time of the month" and getting ketchup on my hotdog didn't feel too appealing. So I played video games, ate pizza and scored a new deadlift pb instead. Ain't life grand
[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 9 points10 points11 points 12 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Period sex is the bomb, give it a try.
[–]libchh 11 points12 points13 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I have, once, with an ex a couple of years past. The image afterwards of her standing in the bathtup with bloody cum dripping down her legs and me rinsing my red dick in the sink more or less mortified me.
[–]trudatness 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'm with you. I avoid swimming in red tide.
[–]cwm44 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's not usually that much blood on my cock after. Like a smudge or something is typical. Sounds like you had a real bleeder.
[–]Necromaze 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm not thralled by the clean up process.
[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's her wet patch, she has to deal with it.
I hope your joking...
What is so appealing of period sex?
Genuinely curious.
[–]badboyant -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm assuming you've never gotten blood up your urethra? Stings like fuck.
[+][deleted] -15 points-14 points-13 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
It's fucking nasty and shows that they don't respect themselves. During that time, BJs and anal.
[–]GridReXX 5 points6 points7 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Because poop and a mouth full of briny semen is her idea of cleanliness.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
My semen tastes of rhubarb crumble.
[–]GridReXX 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ah, you've tasted it?
Of course thats only on weekdays. At the weekends like like to experiment with savoury. Umami goodness.
[–]GridReXX 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And still, I'm not jealous of the receiver of all that goodness. Not one bit.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why would you be? I'm just some guy on the internet doling out advice on how to dominate girls.
[–]MegMartinson 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Humpfffffff!
My man quotes Norman Mailer (I think), "A man hasn't tasted menstral blood doesn't know the devil."
For me, period sex helps relieve pelvic congestion and cramps. For him it simply means no interruption in PiV sex whenever he wants it.
Yeah, he gets a blowjob if we want to play where cleanup becomes problematic during my period.
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I don't know why women propose doing things when they have their period. It's ridiculous, like suggesting hiking when you have a broken leg. It's not just the sex (obviously the arse is still available) but why would they propose a weekend away, or doing anything of any substance when they are physically debilitated? What are you deadfting BTW?
[–]libchh 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
lets say I'm still quite the newbie and the guy I work with is way better, so apparantely I've been doing it wrong for a while. I expect to pull 140kg this week, last week I did 120 and felt I had more to give
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Seems like great progress to me. Deadlift is my favourite lift by far, makes you feel strong.
[–]libchh 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeah for sure, I enjoyed squats a lot because legs has always been a strong part of my body compared to my upper bod, so I quickly surpassed one of my friends who was (and still is) stronger in everything else by quite a lot. now all I need is to get bench up above 100 (working on 90x1) and I'll be in triple digits on all of them :)
Deadlifts became way more fun when I learned how to do them properly, which really took me a while. Mainly to keep the stomach/core firm and not releasing the tension
[–]Captain_of_the_ship 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why isn't her vagina available too?
I just personally don't advocate period sex. It seems most people disagree with me.
[–]MrFunnycat2 points 12 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
had a good time flying through shit tests on saturday, first chick that did it so heavily, and it's so fun to just not give a shit and laugh at how goofy chicks can be
[–]trudatness 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You know I read so much - not just in TRP but all over the net - about how younger dudes are struggling dealing with these 3rd gen feminists.
I'm glad I'm not single, man.
Back in the day, when I was out killing it on the prowl with my boys, we didn't have smartphones, dating sites and social media. You could run game in complete stealth mode.
Nowadays, a bitch can google you on the spot. WTF... I'm imagining that it complicates the deal somewhat. Chicks can measure your financially adjusted SMV immediately. Meanwhile, social media does nothing but increase the amount of dumb-ass orbiters they have.
Women are acting like fucking jackasses.
My wife's theory is that now that more women are making as much as men, they are trying to act like men - except most of them don't know where to draw the line. Men seem to intrinsically know where the boundary of good and bad taste is and follow it. Women, now not fearing an economic consequence of bad behavior do whatever the fuck they want - feel no shame or guilt over it - and then all of sudden get shocked and indignant when men tell them to take a hike. She says they are too used to getting their way all the time - and when they finally get told to go fuck themselves its a surprise. Then they go into poor me mode and try to get everyone to feel sorry for them. Interesting theory. Wifey could be right.
[–]MrFunnycat3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
well to be fair I live in Russia and feminism isn't that much of a thing here because of the whole soviet thing, but congruence tests ate still prevalent
just wait till the future and stuff like those 'facebook app' male reviews are available for everyone
instant lookup of someones dating history + anonymous notes, scary huh? not that they'll ever be verifiable.. i hope..
(and can't wait for the facial recognition to help me find some of my old 'videos' )
I know what you mean man, my friend had these chicks over and were all drinking and one of them (about an 8) ask me to get her a beer (me and my friends paid for) I tell her no, the look on her face was so defeated then she has the audacity to say work with little kids all day long I know how to get you to listen, I must have laughed for 3mis straight she was sooo dumbfounded
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[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
...A girl didn't give you her number because she thought your phone was shit/cheap?
Damn, you could catch gold diggers with that shit. Nice.
[–]why_downvote_mods -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
phones are a status symbol. i judge men on their phones too
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[–]why_downvote_mods -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
3) get a phone that isn't a piece of shit that makes you look like a homeless guy every time you bust it out
[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol.
Well this Monday here got a Sunday vibe here since is holiday.
Any way FR:
Friday to Saturday I did not go out, since I have a few personal things in my life that I have been taking care of. And I've been to much damn stressed to go pick up new girls so instead I called a girl I've known from sometime, she flaked 2 times so I never moved anything forward, but since she works in the same building as me I have been seen her on week days and "keeping" in contact.
She studies design (interiors), so I thought to play with that.
The convo went something like this.
Me: Hey Vero, hows is it going?
Her: Hey Aloss! good and you?
ME: N.M. Just remembering your green underwear (silly private joke) we both laugh.
Me: I'm in need of your talents
Her: Which talents? Giggle
Me: Your designer eye, then I can see which other talents you have.
Her: hahahah, silly, well what do you have in mind?
Me: I got pretty much all done, but I need your help in a crucial point
Her: what is it?
Me: You'll see when you get here
Her: Ok sounds fun.
Me: Bring some beers.
(I give her my address, see when she will be arriving and go to take a quick shower)
She arrives 5 minutes before the hour we talked (punctual), which is a big plus for me.
Anyway she arrives just 5 minutes before the pact hour which is a big plus for me since I like punctual people.
I brake some rapport and kino while we are drinking a beer. then I sit across the bar (kitchen) and just stare at her eyes and smile (something a like to do when I'm on a date 1 on 1 to create some tension, and make them start talking).
After like 2 minutes she brakes and giggles, and then asks what is what I needed for her, "patience" I say, and keep drinking beer, and just making her laugh. After my third beer I take her to the living room (by the small of the back btw, because KINO) and pointed to my coffee table, this is what bugs me, the coffee table here? (then I move the coffee table like an inch to the left) or here?
She gives me a dirty bastard look.
I sit down on the ouch and gesture her to do the same, she sits besides me we start to make out.
After there are no more things worth informing, no LMR or shit like that.
She stayed over night and made a wonderful breakfast and left around 3pm.
Apart from the sex I really enjoyed the company of the girl, as I said above due to stress over family and work I have not been able to go out and pick up, so the company of her was quite nice tbh.
Afterthoughts: I should really start inviting women to my place quicker, the last 3 times I've done it, I've got some good results with not much effort.
[–]anon775 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
As requested I post this here.
I was in a bar with few new friends I made a while ago, listening to my friends band playing in a local music competition. The music was way too loud to have a conversation for me and I decided to just enjoy the music. Later on we changed bars, but for some reason I was still not in a mood to game at all.
It gets late and one guy starts talking to me about how we should go looking for girls and I agreed as I was interested how he "looks for girls". So, after the second round of walking through the bar literally just looking for girls I decide to help the guy out and open the nearest table with two average looking girls. I asked their opinion about a theme for my friends birthday party, I quickly mentioned to the guy that he does not know the friend I was talking about as the guy looked like he was about to call me out lying to these girls or something. I got a feeling that this set was not going to end well.
We continued light conversation, what do they do for fun, did they like my friends band, etc. I didnt have to lead the conversation too much as the girls felt quite interested about us and I decided its time to escalate this, but the guy wouldnt stop talking. He just talked and talked and felt like someone who really likes hes own voice especially now that I got him few girls he can talk to. Talking is of course not bad, much better than silence, but when you talk about how hard it is for him to approach girls in bars or get dates its not really productive thing to do when you are trying to get into someones pants. I had to literally close his mouth with my hand to give the girls a turn to talk, but I did it in a funny way to save the guys face. He didnt seem too happy about it, but he finally got the message and the girls giggled and thanked me.
Now I need to mention that my biggest problem by far currently is escalation. I can approach any girl I see in a bar and have a healthy conversation and make a new friend, but thats it, we flirt, have fun and end up as friends. While going out with bunch of hot chicks as the only guy is definitely cool and helps my game, its not something I only want to do.
After getting a ton of signs from both girls I start playing with one of the girls hand while talking to the group, the girl doesnt seem to mind this and I feel great this is going well. Except the guy suddenly feels insulted that I mentioned the girls how he was drunk when I first met him after they asked about it. He tells me how I was supposed to be his wingman and support him, the girls dont seem to mind the wingman part but more annoyed about the guys reaction, whats the big deal, people get drunk all the time. My girl even tries to save the situation by trying to change the topic to the wingman and how great How I Met Your Mother show is. I started to get really irritated by this guy and it was getting closing time in the bar anyways, so I take the girls number and leave.
TL;DR: Tried to be wingman for a guy who ended up blowing the perfectly ripe set.
Any tips how to handle situations like this?
[–]roadywan 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And again...just making sure it finds its way...
http://www.returnofkings.com/14403/helping-friends-who-have-no-game-is-a-bad-idea
[–]drrtyfrrnr 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's really hard to wing effectively. In fact, most guys even when they intend to wing each other, end up cockblocking each other because they either can't figure out that bringing your buddy down lowers both their value, or they think of pick up as a zero sum game in which they must cut everyone else down, friends or enemies, to be the sole winner.
What I recommend is you have a heart-to-heart with the guy and go with the explicit purpose of building each other up - which is basically what happens when you're really good friends with somebody. If he thinks it's bullshit, find a new wing.
I have been trying to wing with my buddy as well, but he gets so focussed on his target girl that he literally doesn't notice anything else, and it's kinda frustrating.
[–]MrFritzH 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sunday evening, 19:00 ish. Going to my dorm, after a very fruitless short period of daygame in the city centre, I spot a short woman on the same way.
I almost have to run to catch up with her (is it me or do pretty girls walk faster than normal ?).
I catch up with her and upon noticing that she is very pretty and proceed to comment on the weather. I do the standard routine, joking, teasing etc. in general basic game.
As I approach the dorm (she lives on the same campus), she asks me what I am gonna do now (I asked her first), and I tell her that I am gonna watch a movie (wasnt really). I tell her she should join, she doesnt answer but has a slightly amused look. She starts talking about what movie I am gonna see. When we get closer to dorm, I am still unsure of whether she has agreed to or not.
So I just say that "ok, your joining for movies" and give her a side-hug. She doesnt answer, but has the same look.
We get to my dorm room and we watch a movie. We start cuddling during the movies. After a while, I go for the kiss but she pulls away. I brush it off and continue watching the movie.
After the movie, we lay in bed for a while. I try to escalate and/or kiss, but she stops every time. And then after a while, she gets this look on her face like "Do something nigga". I then go in for the kiss or something else, but she pulls away. This patterns repeats it self several times.
I have to resist my deepest urges to not engage in a rational discussion of her behaviour.
When I am trying to feel her up, I notice that the attention is very skewed towards her in a way. Furthermore, I am not at all adhering to the golden ratio of Heartiste.
When we are in bed, she also starts to give really shitty answers to my questions. Almost as she wants me to diss her and call her out on her shitty answers.
She finally decides to leave and I follow her to the door. I give her my number and havent heard from her since, although I do think its still a possibility.
I have been getting alot better at actually finding and attracting the girls of my caliber, but for some reason I either cant follow through to fucking them or I turn beta too quickly.
[–]young_TRP 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Looks like she's the type with the rape fantasies, you can't ever be sure. Next.
[–]kzwrp 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Make women jump through hoops, they love it:
Went to this club, had a smoke, met some (reasonably cute) chick that asked me for a lighter.
"Only if you say please"
"There we go, that wasn't hard was it?"
and she gave me a kiss. hah, nice.
Next time I saw her, she was sitting with some friends holding a pack of cigarettes, I looked her up and down, she dropped it then blushed. Ha.
One evening earlier, same club, met these two exchange students, they said they were on a night out, I teased them by saying "ah, night out, so you'll have to be back in the prison by the end of the night? cool" ... had some fun. They looked reasonably good but ... well, normal students, not extravagantly dressed.
Back to Saturday, I got eyefucked by some MILFs. Not the unattractive kind, but I was there with a bunch of friends and the company was too good to go for those MILfFs.
Completely hit the wall over the past few weeks, had zero enthusiasm for even talking to women. In a new job so I've just been working my arse off and spending time with my mates in the evenings or working on the car in my spare time.
Not complaining, just been a wasteland for almost a month in terms of female attention. Nailed my ex a few times and that was it.
[+]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] -40 points-39 points-38 points 12 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
First FR in a while, been behaving and sticking with hanging out with some plates.
Hit a Jazz bar last week on a school night with a male friend from work, and a bar maid from one of my regulars. As it's a school night, my main objective is to collect numbers, I usually don't go for ONS' when I have work the next day.
At some point during the evening I was walking up some stairs and there was a girl with a massive bag, so I asked her what was in it. We go outside, she puts her bag on a wall and starts going through it with me. She has a few pairs of flat shoes, a jumper and some spare undies, and some reason some masking tape. I comment that she has everything she needs to stay over at mine tonight, and steal the masking tape.
I open a redhead standing next to a group of guys.
"Hi"
"Hi, why do you have that tape?"
"I'll tell you later, what brings you out tonight?"
"It's my birthday"
"Oh really, did you get a cake?"
"Yes! I made one myself"
"Really? Do you not have any friends? Did they not get you a cake?"
"No, they didn't!"
"Pfft, you don't have very good friends!"
"Haha, I think you might have a point!"
"It's OK, here, have a birthday hug to make you feel better"
I give her hug, during which I look her in the eye "Do you want a birthday kiss too?"
She squeezes me tighter and smiles "Yes"
I give her a kiss, and when we stop, she asks about the tape again.
"Turn around" I reply "put your hands together."
She does, and I quickly tape her wrists together. She is holding a lighter (some £1 cheap thing), so I take that, pat her on the ass and whisper in her ear "I didn't realise you were so kinky". I turn away, take a few steps and open two Asian looking girls.
"Hi, do you guys like to get tied up?"
They both look at me wide eyed, like deer stuck in headlights. "What?" They look a little... scared, so it's time to move on.
"Nothing" I reply, turn away and go to the next group, 3 guys and 2 girls.
As I apporach, one of the girls opens me "Did you just kiss and tape that girls hands together?"
I give her my "i'm a filthy bastard" smile and reply "Maybe, do you want in on the action?" and pull out some of the tape, making a snapping sound as I pull it tight.
"Haha, maybe" she replies, taking a step away from her group and closer to me, as she does this, she runs her hand down arm. I grab it, spin her towards me, and stop her when her back is to me. I grab her other arm and quickly throw some tape around her wrists.
"Haha, I can't believe you just did that!"
I give her a tap on the ass and walk away, straight into two random guys, who stand at either side of me.
"Did you steal our friends lighter?" one of the asks, his tone is somewhat aggressive.
"Maybe, I've stolen a few, who is your friend?"
They point to the red head who I had kissed.
"No" I reply. The girl whose tape I had stolen approches me.
"Hey, can I have my tape back now?"
"No" I reply to her
"You did take it, she told us, give it to us so we can give it back!"
"No, she'll get it back when I talk to her again, or she can comes and asks me for it instead of send two chumps"
The girl tries to steal her tape back, but I move my hand out of the way. "Behave!" I hold my arm up in the air, and watch as she tries to jump and snatch it, or pull my arm down.
"Look, the lighter is important to her, her grand dad gave it to her, he passed away recently"
"Really", I reply. "If so, then she should re-evaluate their relationship." To the girl trying to snap the tape I say "Look chick, can't you see I'm getting harassed here enough by these two chumps, stop it!"
She laughs and tries to tickle me.
"Look guys, I love your tough guys for your pal act, it's cute, I get it, you're looking out for your friend. But it won't work on me, I don't give a fuck. Now please, you're fucking boring me, go away"
I quickly push the girl away and try to quickly move away, but one of the guys grabs my jacket collar. I look him in the eye, raise and eyebrow and say "Take your hands off me".
"Give me the lighter" he replies.
I try to move away, and the guys loses his balance and stumbles into me. I lower my face to his "Look chief, if you want a kiss, you just have to ask"
A look of panic runs across his face, and he lets go of me. I turn to chick trying to get the tape "Catch me" and start moving away from the main area.
She follows me, and as we move into more isolation, I grab her, spin her into my and go for the kiss. She turns her head a last minute and I land a kiss on her cheek.
She laughs "No! I'm a lesbian, I have a girl friend!"
"Ahaha, that's perfect, we won't need to hunt around for a 3rd person for a 3some!"
"Haha, you're bold, but really, I'm a lesbian, sorry!"
"It's ok, better take your tape back" Handing it over to her
"Look what you did to it!" she says, pointing to the length of tape that had came loose.
I shrug and walk away. I spot a solo brunette and approach her.
"Hi, do you have no friends?"
She laughs "I seen you tape up that girl, were is your tape?"
"Someone stole it! It may have belonged to her, but still, she stole it" I reply "Where are your friends?"
"They are downstairs, they don't smoke."
"Liar, I bet you don't have any!"
"Haha, I do so! I have lots of friends! Where are yours?"
"I don't have any!"
"Haha, you loner!"
"Ha, you're one to talk!"
"You're cheeky" she replies and punches me in the arm.
"And violent!"
"What do you do?" she asks, moving closer.
"Drink and wash ducks, what do you do?"
"I'm a student"
"Really? What are you doing?"
"Getting a degreee"
"Ha, no shit batman, I guess that. A degree in what? Please don't say art."
"History of art!"
"Oh dear, so how long have you wanted to work in Starbucks?"
She punches me again "Haha, I'm not going to work in Starbucks"
"Really, what kind of real job will your degree get you then?" as I asked this, I look around and make eye contact with the red head, I stuck my tongue out at her, she laughs and does the same.
"I'm not sure..." she starts
I meet her eye "That's great, it was great talking to you, you can have a hug"
As we hug, she tells me I am unbelievable.
As I approch the red head, I hold my hands out "what the fuck chick, sending your friends after me?"
"What?" she replies
I point at her two friends that had came up to me "These two guys here, giving me shit for you"
"Ha, I never told them to, I just said you stole my lighter"
I go into my pocket and take out her lighter and hand it back "Here, I'll see you later" and I try to turn to leave.
She grabs me and steps closer "No, don't leave, I'm really sorry about my friends" she is staring into my eyes.
"No, I'm not getting involved with your jealous friends. I'm going in, if you want a birthday dance, come find me." I give her a quick kiss, walk away and head back into the bar.
I meet up with my friends, and discover it my round, so I head to the bar.
While at the bar, I feel a tap on my shoulder. I turn around and the art student brunette, and what appears to be 4 of her friends. One is a touch shorter than me, lovely smile, stunning dress, heavy eye contact, I hold that for most of the interaction.
"See, these are my friends! I do have some!"
"Ha, did you actually go tell your friends about me?"
One of her friends step up "Yes, she told us you said she wasn't doing a proper degree! And called her a loner!"
"Well, she has proven my incorrect about one of these things!"
"We all think you should buy her a drink!" another one pipes in.
"Hahah, do you now?" I reply
"Yes, she might talk to you more if you do"
"I'll make a deal with you, when you get a job with your degree, I'll buy you a drink"
They all look shocked, except for the tall one, she smiles more.
One of them turn to the art student "You were right, he is hot but an asshole, lets go!"
They all turn and walk away, except for the tall one, she continues to smile and stare, she takes a step closer we her friends walk away.
"Why are you such an asshole?" she asks, reaching out and running her hand down my chest.
"I am? Damn, I wish someone had told me"
"Haha, I like you, no one has ever talked to my friends like that" she steps closer
"That's because I'm not like everyone else" I reply and pull her and kiss her.
After, I get her to send herself a text message and send her back to her friends. They later to "subtly" tried to join me and my friends to dance, but I send them packing, and kissed their friend again when they aren't around.
During the rest of the night I am opened by two obvious gay guys, and a group of girls/guys who had the guy open me to compliment what I was wearing and if I would dance with one of their friends. She was cute, so I obliged, kissed her, and got her number, she even thanked me for dancing/kissing her. She was very nervous, so I doubt I will try to arrange to hangout.
[–]Necromaze 50 points51 points52 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Your telling me you remembered all of your dialogue for 30mins worth of conversation? I'm not saying this didn't happen but come on mate...
[+]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] -25 points-24 points-23 points 12 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
No, that's not all the dialogue, nor all the interactions. I remember what I found funny, or what I would use again.
At one point during the start if the evening I was left at our table on my own, so I opened the girl sitting directly behind me, I can't recall a thing about the interaction because it was boring. A girl opened me at the bar to comment about how many buttons I had on my cardigan, we chatted for 5 mins, I can't recall that either.
edit: forgot a word
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[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And what makes you think this never happened?
[–]6F6A9O9 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Real life.
[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your life must be pretty boring them. I feel sad for you
[+]_whistler -24 points-23 points-22 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jeezus, nitpick much? I think approximation is acceptable here, it's pretty easy to remember the flow of a conversation if not the specifics of every word uttered.
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[+]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] -25 points-24 points-23 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What makes you think that?
[+]Rumble_in_the_Jungle -19 points-18 points-17 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't mind the haters. Your FR's are a great contribution to TRP
[–]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes I did
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[+]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] -26 points-25 points-24 points 12 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
No, I'm not big. But I was confident they wouldn't start a fight. I was a good bit taller then them, and the bouncers for the bar were 3 foot behind me.
[–]iceman5879616 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I don't understand though. They seemed like they were being polite, after all you did take the lighter. Your responses make you come off like a right dick.
[–]why_downvote_mods 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
whats the point though? you took the lighter, give it back.. oh well.. good story
The point is the banter and having fun. She was playing it too, when I gave her the lighter back, she pulled out another one.
[+]TRP Vanguardscottishredpill[S] -7 points-6 points-5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You get it. We now have a silly thing to argue about, to build more banter with. No boring small talk, something a bit different, to flirt with between deep diving with her.
[–]CarlosIHernandez 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wow, such legion
[–]booyah2-1 point 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
What an entertaining read, you were on fire that night. Very impressive
[–]ekjohnson9 -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sick as a dog this weekend but I went out on Saturday for the hell of it. Tail end if a cold with a raspy ass voice, decided to play a game since I wasn't really feeling it. Wingman for my roommate and see how far I can get without speaking unless necessary. Luckily we ended up at a fairly popping club which definitely gave me a handicap, but I'd say 3 numbers and hooking my roommate up with an 8 while deflecting the generous 6 without saying more than 5 words was a good reminder that your actions are enhanced by your value, as opposed to your value being created by your actions.
[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Three girls sat at a bar. One says “I’ve had sex so many times I can fit my whole fist up there”, the other says “I’ve had sex so many times I can fit two fists up there”. The other girl just sits there smiling as she slowly slides down the bar-stool.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Friday I went out to a bar alone where my favorite small-time band was playing. I sat alone for the first hour or so, until the band noticed I was there. The lead guitarist gave me a beer, and the female lead singer came over mid-song, rubbed my back a little, finished the verse, and says "You're playing that song tonight". My body starts involuntarily shaking and I do my best to fight it. A group of 3 guys come in and share my table, giving me a beer and a shot flavored like Mary Jane.
The singer calls me up and everybody cheers. I put on the guitar and he doesn't have a pick or a capo for me to use, so I got a small blister on my thumb from strumming. I guess he had my guitar turned down because besides for the chord to make sure the guitar was in tune, I couldn't hear my guitar from the amps. My legs would occasionally start violently shaking while playing, but I fought it the best I could. Finished the song, and got high fives and "good job"s from about 5 or so people. Felt good, man.
The guys left after about an hour and three girls (a 7 and 2 8's) replaced them. I could tell by looking at them (and watching interactions with other people) that they were the kind to get dressed up nice and hot and reject guys all night so I didn't bother. Some weird creepy guy in his early 40's sits next to me and tries gaming the girls, but they shrug him off. I go out for a smoke with him and he gets me 2 Buds.
I stay until the band is done and help them pack up and the lead singer offers me a spot in the band if I can get rhythm down. I ask for a song list when she gets a chance (radio silence about it so far, so it might have been the alcohol talking). I stay the night at their place and shit talk about my ex-wife some, letting them know the shit that went down behind the scenes.
I go out with my sister bar hopping Saturday night. It was 5 girls and me. We drink some, another friend meets us at the bar (have had a crush on her for years). I don't drink much at either bar, but crush girl, my sis and her roomie head back to their apartment. I drink like a fish there and make the mistake of drinking a whole glass of moonshine. I don't remember much of what happened after that, but I remember sweet talking crush girl a little bit with her under my arm.
She was gone when I woke up Sunday and I felt like shit. I head home (mmissing my shift at my part-time) and sleep all day. I still feel like garbage today.
Overall a pretty good weekend. Better than most.
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