Money DOES NOT make you beta

RP_78 · 2016-09-16T01:44:21+00:00

The thing I always find funny now that you mentioned this post, is how some people on here think "a woman won't cheat if the guy is alpha enough." That just isn't true and no amount of money will change that. I want to be rich and anybody who doesn't is probably lying to themselves.

Money opens up new opportunities and allow you to see the world differently. It allows you to better yourself in many different ways.

[deleted] · 2016-09-16T04:02:16+00:00

I've quickly realized at least 40% of posts here do not belong. It seems like some guys see this as a place to try and assert your alpha status above another guy like as if online pissing contests matter.

Anyway, you are correct. Glad you are clearing this up. It would be retarted to assume that having wealth is something to be avoided. If anything, that kind of mindset is super bitch made.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-09-16T02:38:58+00:00

It's beta to be exploited for your money not to simply have it.

That's the most concise statement you wrote.

Alpha is when you have an "ownership" mentality... you are the Captain and you expect and know that your woman looks up to you. (or she wouldn't be there)

Most guys seriously don't even know what their wives are thinking.

The Alpha "owns" his wife because he knows her.

The wife actually feels warmth by being in the presence of the Alpha.

Beta is sort of the clueless rich guy that doesn't understand women and it's this ignorance that creates the conditions where the wife misbehaves.

Wealthy men also occupy a position where female Hypergamy starts running out of "better deals" to chase (fewer alternatives) so statistically the well off have better family stability.

The poorer you are the more certain your woman is a slut.

2comment · 2016-09-16T07:49:12+00:00

Those posts are more on the theme that

In spite of X, you can be Beta.

You can replace "X" with any trait you want. Money. Looks. Muscles. Huge Dick. Social status. Power. Etc.

There will be a ton of examples of men who had one or more of these things that get played, got cucked, and strung along. Just like that Napoleon example yesterday for a guy who had it all nearly.

This all points that being alpha or beta starts first and foremost in the mind. All those external trappings are great and will attract women, but women will test you and if you don't measure up, they will pick you clean and move on. It doesn't end in the mind, afterall, in the end, to the world you are what you do and nothing more. But your mental state is the foundation for all you are.

Also, there is a time and place for everything. Betas are in big demand during hard times, times of war, famine, crisis, and uncertainty: ie when women are in their mid-30s and 40s. Women will latch onto these men like a fucking liferaft.

In this day and age, where there is plenty of food and women are liberated with their own incomes and betas all over will tell them how beautiful they are and buy all their shit, alphas are what they seek.

Basic supply and demand and Maslow's pyramid of needs.

slay_it_forward · 2016-09-16T08:39:37+00:00

Guys on here who post "see rich guys get cheated on haha" are lazy non-achievers. What they are truly saying is "I will never be rich, deep down I know I do not have the stuff, so it makes me feel better that rich guys who are better than me get cheated on". This is what those posts and the floodgates of upvotes they attract are truly saying. Through their seal clapping applause you hear the tired artitude of the lazy beta. Too lazy to follow their mission so they want to cut down and laugh at their superiors.

ReddittFeist · 2016-09-16T12:30:50+00:00

Bottom line:

Very few guys (and very few of the Red Pill Theory nerds on here) have any fucking idea what alpha actually is.

Yashugan00 · 2016-09-16T02:16:35+00:00

so the faithful female is a myths?

rigbed · 2016-09-16T01:39:53+00:00

Not to mention that it's better to be cheated on by a model than the alternative. Well, better to just hire the model.

Rommel0502 · 2016-09-16T04:30:48+00:00

Thank you for posting this. It needed to be said.

Im going to be blunt - I see a lot of these "See this rich guy got cheated on so all rich guys must be beta" posts and they all scream the same thing to me. Its the anger phase, just directed towards successful men instead of women.

In reality, its the same exact phenomenon. Guys are angry at women because the sexual market has worked against them, and they resent women because of it. Similarly, guys are also angry at successful men because the financial/labor markets have worked against them, and they resent successful guys because of it. Same shit.

MattyAnon · 2016-09-16T13:51:51+00:00

Solid.

Additionally: being cheated on doesn't make you beta either.

As OP says, women cheat because AWALT. You can't control them, and it's a waste of time and effort to try.

Squeezymypenisy · 2016-09-16T04:22:50+00:00

Money its just money. Its a tool.

LifeWithTRP · 2016-09-16T23:56:11+00:00

I think these posts stem from some sort of dream that having a super high SMV should mean no girl cheats and if she does you simply fucked up. Sometimes people are rebels, rouges, free spirits, etc. People do what they want, even women married to billionaires, she got with one billionaire, she could prob get another right? (Her thought process)

Wilreadit · 2016-09-18T10:04:04+00:00

If money makes you beta, then all I want to say is I want to be the biggest beta in the world.

grewapair · 2016-09-16T04:45:07+00:00

Money doesn't make you beta. It does attract women who don't really like you, they just hang around for the money, while they tolerate you.

After awhile, they get bored. But they don't want to give up the lifestyle. So they cheat.

Guys who don't understand this are going to get cheated on if the girl has the chance.

championchilli · 2016-09-16T07:49:57+00:00

Good post bro. Having access to more money I feel has enabled me to become more alpha, it's freed my mind to a certain degree.

[deleted] · 2016-09-16T12:43:13+00:00

Fucking cringe every time these fucking words are used to describe behaviors. Anyways, I'm glad you understand my mindset as well.

VasilyZaitsev said a comment in that thread that resonated with me. I believe he read the same book I did in which a dude who interviewed millionaires said money amplifies things. IF you're a little bitch without money you'll be a bigger one with it because people will abuse you and use you for it and you're not man enough to tell them no and fuck off. Obviously the inverse will be true as well as being an asshole you'll be a bigger one with money LOL.

That thread was the perfect example of cringeworthy people DEFENDING their weaknesses as Les Brown said. It's like they believe the traditional thinking of "poverty is morally superiour" from the liberal agenda. I try not to fight it anymore because its less competition anyway and more money for you.

Limekill · 2016-09-16T04:37:04+00:00

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Tongue37 · 2016-09-16T06:35:46+00:00

i was a heroin addict with no job and maybe 411 to my name yet i stll attracted a few hotties even towards the worst stage of my addictin..i dont remember what i did but honestly think ive been blessed with above average looks and good personality..

MrMetalFingers · 2016-09-16T21:23:35+00:00

There should definitely be a different process when reading "empirical" evidence and "anecdotal" evidence, and this needs to happen automatically in your own mind. One experimental observation may fly in the face of the law, but it does not change the law in and of itself.

Keep this in mind.

__ROOSTER__ · 2016-09-16T23:12:29+00:00

I don't disagree on the money thing.

I do take exception to the cheating thing. If a woman places more value on what she has vs what she will get , she will choose what she has.

If your money is a large part of what she has, and she will get enough of it when you dump her; she doesn't have the motivation to stay loyal.

If what she gets from you is beyond money and she will lose all of that if she is disloyal, she can remain loyal.

Women have to be trained on RP to a degree, not the words and the whole pill, but they have to understand their nature and understand how men will seduce them to be disloyal. They have to be taught explicitly that what they have is the highest value and they will lose it all if they slip.

They must believe in their core that YOU provide them with the highest value they will ever get, that their value decreases and that they only retain value with a man they have been loyal to. "A woman only stay beautiful to the man who she has born children for and remained loyal to"

She has to see and believe that she will never do better, that anyone that tries to tell her it will be better is a snake oil salesman who is a deceiver and will leave her. She will die old, alone, and unhappy.

With you she will remain safe and loved forever.

(since most people here are very anti-LTR I'm sure their will be lots of negative comments on this. This is more for those running successful LTRs and families)

Wilreadit · 2016-09-18T10:05:43+00:00

I can't even believe there are so many people on this sub confusing the concept of being rich and wealthy as some sort of "beta trait"

That is because deep down, they know that they will never achieve that kind of affluence and wealth. So spite the rich man to cover for their inadequacies.

newName543456 · 2016-09-18T16:35:51+00:00

It is a sobering realization, that you can do everything right, be most rich/handsome/alpha/whatever the world has ever seen, and still get cheated on anyway. Many (like myself in the past) still cling to the untrue notion, that woman 100% won't cheat on you, if you are alpha/rich/handsome enough.

Don't bank on inherently unsafe bets.

Mckallidon · 2016-09-16T02:39:18+00:00

Money doesn't make you alpha either. The average Chad doesn't have much money and doesn't give a fuck.

blackedoutfast · 2016-09-16T06:10:58+00:00

having money doesn't mean you are automatically a beta. but being alpha also isn't based on external characteristics like money or fame or physical appearance. all of those things are part of your SMV, but alpha is based on attitude. being alpha as fuck will be a huge boost to your SMV, but it doesn't go the other way: having SMV doesn't inherently mean you are an alpha or a beta.

you can be a billionaire CEO or famous actor or professional athlete and still be a weak willed blue pill beta. and it's those guys who are getting cheated on and cucked.

i think a lot of guys confuse the two things because an alpha attitude will really help give you the drive to succeed and dominate. so a lot of the guys at the top of their respective fields ARE alpha. but that doesn't necessarily mean every guy at the top of his field is automatically alpha.

massivewang · 2016-09-16T08:22:42+00:00

I think for me what these stories illustrate is that having money doesn't make you good with women. While it's true that alpha's can still be cheated on, i think the point is that being rich doesn't make you immune to hypergamy.

It also reinforces the fact that TRP/game/attitude can trump money.

I've got a friend who is:

broke
unskilled laborer
impulsive
a border line alcoholic
constantly living with some sort of crisis every six months
short
pale
skinny

In comparison I am:

6' 2"
an engineer
earning 100k+
200k in cash/investments
been to thirty countries
stable

My friend smashes hot chicks all day. He's fun as fuck, socially savvy, has eccentric style and impeccable game. My money, world traveler status, etc don't mean dick. Nine times out of ten he's going to out do me with a chick.

Now with that said, his life is a fucking mess, mine isn't. So while I envy his skills with women, I don't envy the chaos in his life.

Someone wrote an article on the things that make a man attractive, they used the acronym LAMPS

Looks
Money
Attitude
Power
Status

Just because you score high on one, doesn't mean you're attractive, or you'll be successful with women. Furthermore some factors can trump others.

So again it's not that every billionaire is beta, but ultimately that being a billionaire, or famous, or whatever doesn't make you immune. There's no magic pill.

Is it better to be a billionaire in terms of quality of life? Most likely. Are there "losers" smashing more hot chicks than billionaires? Yes, there are.

slay_it_forward · 2016-09-16T16:28:24+00:00

No one said the money made him beta you LMS sperg. Back to SlutHate with you.

All that was pointed out was that money doesn't equal alpha, and in a lot of cases rich guys are beta. Get it?

Title	Money DOES NOT make you beta
Author	BoyWhoreWithASword
Upvotes	171
Comments	159
Date	September 16, 2016 1:27 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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