No evidence that testosterone reduces cognitive empathy

GodOfDinosaurs · 2019-10-02T19:27:40+00:00

Actually the extreme male (autism) extreme female (bpd) brain theory is very popular on this subreddit. So, if anything, we are the ones likely to get triggered.

chazthundergut · 2019-10-02T23:20:53+00:00

Feminists rage so hard against masculinity in large part because they crave it so badly and they hate how shitty they feel without strong men in their lives to look up to and follow.

Remember that high-testosterone is one of the female hindbrain's strongest desires. All the things they look for in men- voice, strength, behavior- are selected for high testosterone.

Sumsar01 · 2019-10-02T20:14:27+00:00

Im not really sure if this tells you anything about autism since the autism theory is about testosterone in the womb. Also social skills/reading people is a skill and can be learned. Taking test is obviously not going to unlearn it. Also i think the main reason for low level of social skills in most people with autism isnt a symtom but rather a effect. If your wierd as a child you simply get put in fewer social situations.

5ubstanc3 · 2019-10-03T17:32:06+00:00

I feel like feminist claiming testosterone reduces cognitive empathy is the female equivalent of bro science

abstractplebbit · 2019-10-02T21:32:12+00:00

It should be obvious why there is higher variance in male phenotypes such as this example.

Males are genetically more expendable than females in strictly reproductive terms since there is no limit to the number of offspring a male can father.

Many many traits that induce this sort of variance happen to be linked specifically to the X chromosomes, and having two X chromosomes essentially means that all of the genetically risky (recessive) genes get suppressed by the dominant, more stable ones when they are present. This ensures that females are highly likely to be fully functional for their biological purpose. Our species could not afford for females to be exposed to this risk since it poses a threat to their reproductive fitness with no possible benefit in exchange

The pattern of genetic deviation that gives birth to geniuses is also the sort of genetic deviation that creates dysfunctional Autists, as Mutations are not informed by anything specific.

E.g. consider the case of what it takes for a female to be born with the same IQ as a very intelligent (high deviation) male.

The male received genes from one of his mothers X chromosomes that may or may not have been expressed in her phenotype, but it happened to be one that determines high IQ.

For this to happen to a female at birth, she would have had to receive these recessive genes on both X chromosomes she was given by her parents.

Ultimately the one from her dad would have been passed down from his mother, so it depends on two women passing down recessive genes in agreement for this level of intelligence. The probability of this happening is roughly a square of the original probability of it happening in a single instance, and therefore it’s substantially lower

FaustoLG · 2019-10-03T18:13:34+00:00

I love testosterone, is the source of my super powers...

While the enemy hates it, they use the SOY to try to destroy us... PATHETIC! You can't win against testosterone.

red_philosopher · 2019-10-02T19:29:02+00:00

There's a theory that autism, ADHD and psychopathy are on a spectrum. It's interesting stuff.

nobody_thinks · 2019-10-02T20:21:54+00:00

Isn't autism a developmental problem though? So if testosterone had a role, wouldn't it be in the fetus / baby / child?

Shouldn't surprise anyone that injecting people with test does not change their cognitive empathy. Sounds like a bunch of hype over nothing.

631_Exuberant_Bias · 2019-10-04T14:47:05+00:00

Autistic people don't actually have any less empathy than the general population, they're just not as good at expressing their compassion for others in a recognizable way due to a lack of instinctive social programming. So they tend to look cold and uncaring on the surface, but aren't.

Source: am autistic.

Yakatonker · 2019-10-03T06:15:41+00:00

I originally thought vaccines were largely responsible for the explosive increase in autism rates, however that theory was revised when I found out dietary factors play a massive role in development and maintenance of a healthy brain. What did I find?

Sugar or carbohydrate toxicity is already known exhaustively in the field of diabetes research through the degenerative effects of hyperglycemia(high blood sugar) and the end stage product of carbohydrate(sugar) metabolism being diabetes, a disorder of human energy systems which destroys all systems of the human body.

Brain degenerative disorders such as Alzheimer's have even been called Type III Diabetes because the brain itself becomes resistant to insulin, glucose. Department of Defense(DoD) government researchers such as Ph.D Dom D'Agostino have looked into the potential of ketones to power the brain in lui of this resistance. Additionally keto diets(high fat) were invented to treat epilepsy and are effective in this regard, in terms of autism there is promising early research to this regard as well. This is because keto and carnivore diets are anti-inflammatory.

This highlights a second important thing, the government recommended "Standard American Diet" is poisonous to our health, the anti-thesis to human longevity. This is highlighted in another physiological mechanism called The Randle Cycle.

The Randle Cycle:

(1) consumption of energy sub-straits fat and carbohydrates in any equivalence creates the most inflammatory, insulinogenic response possible from diet
(2) chronically consuming this combination throughout the day will create a low-grade inflammatory condition in a person
(3) Randle Cycle is also a descriptor of the optimization for weight gain, because insulin can reduce BMR and or fat oxidation via carbohydrates
(4 - a) simplified above, carbohydrates antagonize fat oxidization thus the old 1970s Golden Era Body Builder maxim holds true to this day, that being:
(4 - b) carbs are fat storing and not used effectively for energy, fat is not fat storing and used immediately for energy

BuzzLightGear321 · 2019-10-02T19:51:59+00:00

Anyone that has ever pinned Test knows it doesn't make you retarded. As if it had to be studied at all.

Whitified · 2019-10-04T10:09:23+00:00

This is very interesting if you consider that it is women who are completely unable to have empathy on low value, or "creepy" men. Or just about any men considered "beta". Our laws today reflect that, and is proof of just how much our world has descended from a patriarchal society to a matriarchal one. Feminism really does invert everything it touches

Krelious · 2019-10-05T18:44:09+00:00

I think society is brainwashed into thinking women have higher levels of empathy which i think is bullshit. I may be biased from my own personal observation but I strongly believe the majority of men have more empathy than women because we arent condititioned to be selfish cunts who use other people. Women only show empathy to people they think deserve it or their children. Those who deserve empathy ar e often those they deem as fitting in with the herd.

Its extremely rare you find a strong woman who fits outside this archetype because most western women tend to fit into the leftest archetype of the overly socialized herd animal who never questions its conditioning and acts purely as a consumer and is reactive in nature. Women mostly cant think for themselves because they are conditioned by education and media to respond to stimuli in certain preprogramed ways.

chadwickofwv · 2019-10-03T19:57:17+00:00

It is women who lack empathy, not men.

ZeusTheTrueGod · 2019-10-03T13:19:46+00:00

Guys, life on TRT (or on steroid cycle) is way different from a normal boring life. Research and use, you'll live like in a paradise.

trueliberal1 · 2019-10-04T20:20:50+00:00

the notion of autism as reflecting an “extreme male brain.”

This explains why predators want to use autism to improve their species.

No kidding. That was the actual plot of the latest movie.

Vikingcel · 2019-10-05T23:55:02+00:00

I don't see how this disproves the theory. All it proves is that testosterone won't turn adult men autistic.

If you really want to disprove it, put pregnant women on a test cycle.

BIGFACTS98 · 2019-10-24T02:58:12+00:00

Cognitive Empathy is different than effective Empathy.

Cognitive Empathy requires thought and structure and does not necessarily mean you are experiencing others emotions.

Effective Empathy on the other hand is the automatic feeling of others emotions.

Which is what I believe testosterone interferes with.

Primary psychopaths are classified as usually having high cognitive Empathy but low effective empathy, which is why they are so good at manipulating people.

High prenatal testosterone can also cause psycopathy.

MAGAmancy555 · 2019-10-02T20:30:30+00:00

Stop wasting your time with soft science and go talk to people.

8380atgmaildotcom · 2019-10-04T04:49:59+00:00

I'm not surprised that not one of you big brained smartie pants linked the actual paper before you opened your blabber on keyboards

link to the paper: https://sci-hub.tw/10.1098/rspb.2019.1062

Title	No evidence that testosterone reduces cognitive empathy
Author	sebastianconcept
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Date	October 2, 2019 7:05 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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