Phil in Groundhog Day

abdada · 2015-09-18T19:33:25+00:00

Great movie.

Something that most don't know is the writers intended that Phil live thousands of years this way. No way to portray it as a dark comedy.

The-Ban-Hammer · 2015-09-19T01:29:39+00:00

Phil Connors.

Phil Collins is somebody completely different.

mrmeyhemn · 2015-09-18T20:53:35+00:00

Saw this last night when I got home. Noticed a lot of red pill in it. He starts out frustrated, gets more frustrated at his inability to change his circumstances, to the point of suicide. Then finally accepts that his reality is what it is and begins to work on himself rather than trying to change his circumstances. In the end his self metamorphosis caused his circumstances to change.

Also, Bill Murray kicks ass

LastRevision · 2015-09-18T20:48:32+00:00

Groundhog Day is essentially about personality vs character.

Phil begins the movie as a real bitch to deal with, and once he enters the Groundhog Day cycle he learns to develop his personality to reach desirable ends; his initial dates with Rita reflect this, where he is essentially running scripted game on her to achieve sex.

As the movie progresses, Phil decides to improve his character by learning skills and thinking of others, and he does this without any hope of escaping the time loop, and only then does Phil escape the loop and move on with his life.

Rathadin · 2015-09-18T20:41:04+00:00

Choose to interpret this fiction however you want. BUT I think it's about as beta as it gets.

Phil is stuck on Rita for the entire movie. Including the girl he lied to and accidentally called "Rita" right before closing the deal. There is an inference that he eventually sealed the deal but that's a different point.
The only way for him to get out of Groundhog purgatory was to become the man Rita wanted. The movie never goes into any exploration into Phil's motivation for changing. That was left to the viewer because, according to the writers, it's obvious that he's a self-absorbed ass-hole. Do you really think he wanted to learn the piano, French, and ice-sculpting because he had a real interest or because it was what Rita wanted?
There's a clear implication that a man should live for others instead of himself in order to achieve happiness. At no point is it clear why he would want to, for example, buy tons of insurance coverage he didn't need... or save a kid as he fell from a tree (hurting his own back).. or save a man from choking.. or buy wrestlemania tickets for 2 kids he didn't know... or help old ladies change the tire on their car because, of course, they couldn't be bothered with it.

I enjoy the movie, but it always makes me cringe.

rabidrabbity · 2015-09-18T22:08:20+00:00

How long it would take to learn to throw playing cards (six months at a conservative estimate of four or five hours a day of practice), how long it would take to become a master ice sculptor (seven years at four to five hours per day), how long it would take to watch a movie 100 times and so on and so on.

And after all that math 12,403 repeated days, which is just shy of some 34 years stuck in timeless, existential limbo.

External12 · 2015-09-18T20:20:46+00:00

It's a movie. Not real life. I don't like movies being used as examples for real life situations. But I get the point.

CowardlyPetrov · 2015-09-19T05:48:40+00:00

It's still the story of a faggot beta because in reality he never gives up on Rita, who is shit.

It is a good story ruined by its ending. In 10,000 days, Phil still didn't grow enough to just get over Rita.

NiftyDolphin · 2015-09-19T02:29:53+00:00

The true hero of that movie was Ned Ryerson. It took him decades of reliving the same day to wear down Phil Connors to the point where he could sell that useless bastard an insurance policy.

Perseverance pays off.

Redasshole · 2015-09-19T06:04:02+00:00

He goes on date after date with her remembering all her likes and dislikes to the same result night after night, getting slapped in the face.

You forgot to say how he gets those informations. He asks her questions about what she likes and then remember all of them so that he can say he likes the same things in order to relate.

Very funny movie anyway.

Sherlock--Holmes · 2015-09-19T09:23:34+00:00

It really just comes down to this: Phil becomes the person that women want: A man who can entertain them and give them things.

SeekingTheWay · 2015-09-19T15:14:10+00:00

Agree and Amplify too - "I don't think we should do this" - "I don't either"

I actually used this exact comeback once and it worked me through the LMR.

2015-09-19T04:54:24+00:00

I watched the same movie today on AMC. One of my favorites of all time. Thanks for the post.

2015-09-19T08:46:58+00:00

I saw this a few months ago for the first time, not sure how I missed it.

Great film.

ConnorGracie · 2015-09-19T09:14:30+00:00

I think Demi Lovato's Heart Attack is pretty redpill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvKe-QSmz-Q

2015-09-19T01:58:24+00:00

What's great about this movie is that it stages every level of what men go through as they gain power and improvement"

1.We WANT the things we've always lusted for---money, power, women, sex, adventure---and we indulge ourselves in a gluttonous fashion.

2.Then we lust for specific women and we fail and fail until we perfect our personality and game.

3.We go through depression as we realize none of it was really worth it. She can not bring us happiness if we're not happy with ourselves. We see the world around us, how weak and helpless it is, and we just want to escape it by any way possible.

We man up, decide to improve ourselves, to become better men and LEADERS. No longer do we reign over the ashes, we actually create and build anew. We become the kind of men women want to be with, we're no longer chasing them, they're chasing us. And we enjoy it but it's a secondary reward to improving the world we live in.

2015-09-18T23:27:39+00:00

This is such an excellent post, and such a welcome change from the standard anger phase TRP whinefest posts about women's privilege.

AmericanHistoryAFBB · 2015-09-18T20:34:50+00:00

I watched this last night on television. One of my favorite films of all time, and chocked full of TRP/PUA goodness.

jhsm · 2015-09-19T06:30:03+00:00

It's Phil Connors you fucking putz.

aazav · 2015-09-19T02:39:49+00:00

amongst it's inhabitants

amongst its* inhabitants

it's = it is

Camon.

erplaint · 2015-09-19T17:13:43+00:00

Yet more upvotes for fictional shit which just happens in the mind of some script writer. There is no such thing as "red pill fiction" for fucks sake! It's like saying there is hot ice or a brave coward or a giant midget. It is a STORY, it is NOT REAL therefore has nothing to do with reality, no matter how bitter. Stop polluting your minds with whatever some bloke regurgitated on paper in order to trick housewives into paying money because "oh, it is so romantic". First that shitpost about "taking pussy off pedestals by being just the way you are" and now this shit about fiction being red pill. Screw this crap, this sub is being taken over by little girls who think they are alpha men because now they read TRP.

Title	Phil in Groundhog Day
Author	dale0607
Upvotes	254
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Date	September 18, 2015 7:28 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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