Question Regarding the Dreaded 'Friend-Zone'

metallica11 · 2014-12-20T17:27:54+00:00

The Friend Zone: A place made up, and inhabited solely by, men who are too timid to make a move towards what they want and too beta to break away and seek other options.

See Also: Orbit.

Edit: I realize that I didn't answer your question about how to escape. The answer is simple: Leave.

NabroleonBonaparte · 2014-12-20T18:46:13+00:00

Firstly, there is a lot of material in the sidebar you should become familiar with.

Simply put, the friend zone is a one sided relationship where the female's needs are met at the detriment of the male. Best case scenario, you stick around pining for her and she keeps rejecting you. Worst case you invest both emotionally and financially in her and your life path is altered by her desires.

A man in the friend zone is an orbiter. All of his attention and actions revolve around her. He is her time hoe.

On escaping it, if you mean eliminating the suffering, it's as simple as never interacting with her again. If you mean win her over, you have to significantly raise your value in her eyes (get other girls, popularity, success, etc). But that's known as oneitus, you're obsessed with one girl who probably isn't all you make her out to be. If you truly raise your value you'll be able to get better looking and more interesting women. Why would you settle?

Just a finishing note since I get a hint that you have a female on mind with this question; If you were to try to win her over, she may enthusiastically show interest, maybe even fuck you, but you'll eventually end up at square one because she'll realize you're still whipped and did all this for her.

fnordsnord · 2014-12-20T19:23:18+00:00

The Friend Zone is where the woman gets male attention and resources, but the man doesn't get sex or romantic affection.

A man gets here two ways: he never has the guts to make a move and just sits there, spending money, time, and emotional energy on her while he waits for her to give him a signal that it's okay to make a move.

The second way is when he doesn't work up enough attractions but DOES make a move, and gets the LJBF talk. And instead of doing what's best for him, he accepts her offer of "friends" (without benefits).

I've seen a guy get out of the Friend Zone once. He left orbit and went zero contact for FOUR YEARS. He got his life squared away, dated and banged other women, and then, YEARS later, hit her up from a position of power.

That was ONCE, and it took him YEARS to reframe.

The only OTHER guys who escaped the friend zone did it by leaving her, and banging other girls, never to return.

Once they decide they "don't feel THAT way about you," there's NO WAY BACK. You are wasting your time hanging around in the friend zone.

If you want her, make a move. If she rejects you, move on to the next one.

Really. That's the only answer.

tombreck2 · 2014-12-20T17:53:27+00:00

If you are 'friends' with a woman but she does not provide any actual value to you then you are a beta orbiter.

To 'get out' of the friendzone she needs to provide value to you which isn't likely going to happen out of nowhere.

imbecoming · 2014-12-20T17:57:28+00:00

The thing is to never find yourself in the friendzone in the first place. Make your sexual intentions known from the beginning. I can tell if I see a girl I want to fuck, within a few seconds. ABC, always be escalating.

cocaine_face · 2014-12-20T20:17:52+00:00

Build up your value and you will not be in the friendzone.

If you're a skinny fuck working a minimum wage job and no options and no value whatsoever, why would a woman want you (not saying that's you, just an example). If, over the course of a few months or a year this same guy took up weight-lifting, got a better or higher status job, maybe took up a couple cool hobbies, and started dating other girls at or higher than the girl's value in attractiveness - do you really think that that girl would even for a second put that guy, "in the friendzone" - she knows she'd be an idiot to do so, and why would the guy even care? He can do better now.

Yangel · 2014-12-21T04:06:19+00:00

I have really bad memories. :(

RedSovereign · 2014-12-21T06:06:26+00:00

Post questions in /r/asktrp.

Title	Question Regarding the Dreaded 'Friend-Zone'
Author	jreed11
Upvotes	3
Comments	16
Date	December 20, 2014 5:26 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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