The key you've been missing

DemagogueTrump · 2019-05-15T13:24:23+00:00

Using words like "life force" makes this sounds a bit of New Age chakra-based nonsense, but I do think there is some scientific foundation to this. I'm just going to copy-paste a comment I made on another thread regarding the difficulty in changing ones life.

I think we have an innate and primitive reluctance to change if the way we are living is, biologically speaking, working for us. We're eating plenty, we're physically safe, we life in greater domestic comfort than historical kings, and we have internet porn convincing our ancient lizard brains that we're getting it on the regular with a load of hot and hungry honeys. Why change anything? As far as our most basic and deep-rooted drives are concerned, we're absolute stone cold legends. The sense of constant unease comes from the conflict between that part of our brains and the more recently-developed higher functions that want to continue rolling the dice for a better life.

That's my armchair anthropology and pop psychology perspective anyway.

nitu08 · 2019-05-15T10:49:49+00:00

If someone wants to read further, then read Napolean hill's Think and Grow Rich chapter 11 - The mystery of sex transmutation.

Well, OP is correct to some extent. Nofap is beneficial but the primary aim is not semen retention. The primary aim is to use that sexual energy to create something. By sometime I don't necessarily mean awesome sex.

What I believe that The key what we men are missing that the red pill theory is not for us to increase our n count but for us to raise our value.

Nofap won't be useful until that sexual energy, that sex drive is channelled. Nofap is just a means to retain that energy. It's you where that power resides.

showerdudes9 · 2019-05-15T12:19:39+00:00

Uh oh. This is gonna cause a shitstorm. TRP generally hates anything to do with SR (because most of trp fucks women and ejaculates on a frequent basis).

Personally i absolute love SR and it has changed my life in more ways than even TRP did. Even though i have periods of fucking and ejaculating constantly , i also volunteerily take months off any sort of ejaculating. Both trp and sr are absolutely amazing in terms of self improvement, building discipline and becoming a man who needs no one and nothing because of his inner strenght.

But again, this post wont be well received in here. People have tried before

ThaGod420 · 2019-05-15T13:36:44+00:00

There is a famous tweet of 50 cent saying “I’m gonna go make a song after I workout so I don’t jack off”

godsbestgift · 2019-05-15T15:01:25+00:00

This is a very controversial subject but first and foremost I want to tell you that I agree and have something to add to this equation. Semen retention has tremendous benefits on your personality and strength in the gym. Not going to source this, just going to lead into my point. Testosterone levels plateau in men around 9-14 days. At this point, dropping a load can have a ton of value in increasing your testosterone even further. You are only allowed to nut inside of a women. Whether it be a girl you earned or a hooker, you must earn your nut. Do not waste it in your hand. The reason a hooker is okay is because even though you technically are "cheating" your systems circuitry into thinking "oh shit i'm successful with women". Your body will still react as if you ARE successful with women. Also its decent practice before you get down with a real girl who worships you. Ultimately semen retention should be used as a tool to self motivate and raise your testosterone levels. I've got one plate rn but she has a bf so i cant utilize it frequently, usually i let her come to me and never hit her up. I fuck some hookers for the supplemental boost and I actually never fap anymore. I lift, I'm pushing a year and i've been doing this routine for the last 5-6 months. I've never had my test levels checked but fuck man, my facial hair is finally coming in complete at AGE 26 and I have 3x as much body hair. At the start of my lifting career, I really just looked like a late pubescent boy (AT AGE 25). Now I look like a man. In this age, high testosterone males are scarce. Whether it be due to social conditioning, phytoestrogens, xeno estrogens from plastic or even soy products. My number one priority since the moment i swallowed the pill 18 months ago was to do I could to raise my testosterone and its truly paid off. This is a controversial subject, the top comment is even hating on your use of "life force". BITCH SEMEN LITERALLY CREATES LIFE HOW IS IT NOT "LIFE FORCE". kk less yelling, heres a vidya on high testosterone facial features vs low. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxwKibwHYEw Listen to your body and after putting this shit into practice, then consider your upvote/downvote button

MatSapientia · 2019-05-15T11:26:23+00:00

I agree with you. I’ve been observing my drive to life, to do things, take initiatives, being social, I’ve fapped more times than I can ever count and this post articulates my years of observation.

Testosterone is what this world built upon. Fapping reduces it drastically.

Roosh advocates stopping fapping before you go out to pick up girls. He describes picking up with low testosterone levels as an athlete who goes to a competition having asthma.

Anyone here must have noticed that his motivation to lift as well as the performance die out if you fap before.

I have difficulty understanding the view of those comments rejecting the post. Now of course sex and fapping aren’t entirely the same. The body reacts differently to each, and the psychological effects are hardly the same. When you have sex, you usually do it in moderation with an average of 2 to 3 times per week regardless of the unusual occasions when you do 5-10 heads in 24 hours. With fapping you tend to overdue it and abuse it. You use for fun, for sleep, when depressed, when bored. If you truly use your life and time to optimize your personal growth rate, you would surely not find it good for you. It’s counterproductive.

Psychological_Radish · 2019-05-15T13:52:37+00:00

"Semen retention" (i.e. NoFap) is only useful insofar as it helps guys to break a porn/masturbation addiction. However, there is zero scientific basis for any additional benefits. The idea that NoFap can boost testosterone, for example, is pure fiction. This post is so bad that it doesn't even attempt the usual pseudo-scientific claims.

MoDuReddit · 2019-05-15T14:07:59+00:00

My personal opinion is somewhere in the middle, jizz all you want but only if it's from sex with a girl, cut out the porn and masturbation

PhoenixRisingtw · 2019-05-15T11:17:17+00:00

I like your post and agree with it. As someone who just recently ended a 116 day streak I can tell you the benefits can be life changing for someone.

When you first start you feel like shit and when you masturbate it makes you feel better, so you think masturbation is OK and healthy for you. But if you go something like 2-3 months without fapping you will feel awesome almost all of the time!

So much more energy, drive, confidence, control over yourself, clear head etc. You know how you sometimes feel this way but the next day you have anxiety, low confidence, shaky voice and weak eye contact? This is eliminated with semen retention, its like your levels are more even and not fluctuating so much. You feel the same way no matter what. Your baseline “happiness” is higher, all it takes for me is to take cold shower, meditate and I feel much more amazing than from any other pleasure activity or substance.

I realized we dont need masturbation or ejaculation, its just the highest pleasure there is.

Foobyx · 2019-05-15T12:59:40+00:00

But, if i get laid... my semen will go away, my empire crumble and my men leave.

demilitarizdsm · 2019-05-15T12:24:29+00:00

The value is probably more broadly routed in delaying gratification and it's correlations than walking around with a fat load. Don't take me wrong those benefits are easily observable in terms of libido but that's a single dimension.

someonesopinion6969 · 2019-05-15T14:55:09+00:00

whilst everyone here is screaming at the post to defend their porn usage or whatever, the benefit of giving up watching that shit will translate into you actually pursuing women more aggressively because it's more of your nature.

I'm pretty sure anything that cuts out pornography will allow for men to reach their highest heights, it's basically cheat code for satisfaction.

whilst on the other hand, it will make you contemplate fucking a land whale due to how horny you end up getting

inferno1234 · 2019-05-15T14:24:57+00:00

Stopped reading after your first sentence, where do you get this stuff? Show me one source that Steve Jobs had a high view of semen retention, and I will read on.

Also, we don't need a blank line after every full stop.

redpect · 2019-05-15T12:37:36+00:00

Jesus fucking christ.

Buffers are bad, Rollo made that clear.

Pornography addiction, also bad.

But cumming thinking about fucking a broad when you cant fuck her, pff, this is not the fucking problem, the problem is spending three hours a day touching your dick in front of a screen. Also this is a recursive topic on TRP, it seems like every month or so someone comes with the bright idea of saying that fapping is bad and fucking is better.

And overall i think most of the people that has been reading TRP for a long time is fucking tired of posters like youself and other non-endorsed contributors thinking that they have reached a zen state and can start imparting phylosopical wisdom to us lowly apes.

Look, if you're 5% or more in any areas of life, Most of the people here will hear what do you have to say, because you bring something useful to the conversation, and get validation or whatever in return, when I read rollo, or Vasily, or even GLO, i listen because i know that they have accomplished something that i have not, and i want to emulate certain parts of their behavior to get similar results.

But Hey, this is the state of TRP. Most of the good work is already done, but we want something "new" to read because we're accustomed to the mantra of new is better, because is new. To anyone that is really interesting in changing is views, apply the sidebar, not whatever is posted on the subreddit feed. And also, a couple of years back the quality of work exposed here was a lot higher, but all that work is done and archived, waiting for you to read it, dont wait for it to appear in the front of your feed.

bestsparkyalive · 2019-05-15T13:23:34+00:00

I Agree with what you’re saying here. Big difference between retention and constant release.

_A_L_3_X_ · 2019-05-15T15:25:26+00:00

not fapping for around a month has only made me feel shitty with no energy and my dick wouldn't even get hard when i saw porn. i literally had to force myself to masturbate. now i do it at least once a week and i feel much better, get more shit done and have made bigger progress in the gym.

What i think, was the problem for me, was fapping late at night; which then again would make me sleep really bad. and the effect of not enough sleep are well known.

I always like to say moderation is best, e.g. a few shots or beers won't hurt, on one hand a few bottles vodka will, but also on the other hand no alcohol will make the night boring.

iOSvista · 2019-05-15T15:42:31+00:00

Havent seen a quality post on this subject in quite a while. Tbh I lost track and started wondering why my girl wasnt getting wet lately.

This answers that question.

Solid post. Helpful in getting back on track.

maverick9759 · 2019-05-15T14:23:42+00:00

Steve Jobs, Mohammed Ali, Nikola Tesla, Leonardo Da Vinci, Mike Tyson, Socrates, Isaac Newton,

Kanye west, 50 cent, Donald Trump

Where did that list come from ? Who the fuck dared to ask Steve Jobs or Muhammad Ali whether they retain semen or not ? Leonardo da vinci ? Are you fuckin serious ?

You must be 13 years old to believe this nonsense. What the absolute fuck. Nofap is BS unless fapping is consuming a majority of your time and energy and that's all you'll save if you don't fap, time and energy which can be used for better stuff. That's fuckin it okay ? Done. Shut down. No Supernatural powers incoming, go home you're drunk.

Btw Mike Tyson used to have sex before fights, he says he didn't want to think about it during the fight so he got it out of the way.

MattyAnon · 2019-05-15T12:36:16+00:00

They all have one thing in common. They held a high view of semen retention

Hahaha oh my dear fucking lord.

Nofap = epic levels of motivation and achievement. Surrreee....

OP: do you have any evidence at all that there is any correlation between backing up your semen production and success?

FREECRACK6 · 2019-05-15T11:46:49+00:00

Lol how can you prove that all these dudes were retaining semen. Go ahead

elgodo7 · 2019-05-15T14:23:54+00:00

Jerking off daily will kill your drive to meet real girls.

parks39 · 2019-05-15T10:24:19+00:00

Get out of here. This isn’t nofap.

celincelin · 2019-05-15T10:27:40+00:00

I can’t even call this pseudoscience, because in no way can I mention “science” referring to this diarrhea.

CainPrice · 2019-05-15T10:51:50+00:00

Bullshit. Asexuality makes you a bigger and less successful weirdo.

That socially normal guy who gets promoted at the office? His girlfriend fucks him regularly.

That ugly weirdo who everybody avoids? He doesn't fuck.

Show me a successful man, and the majority of the time, you're showing me a man that fucks.

serd12 · 2019-05-15T10:20:54+00:00

I think a TLDR ending could be useful on this subreddit. Of course info is more detailed but sometimes we're busy and could use a small paragraph that summarises the whole post.

brabg · 2019-05-15T12:35:51+00:00

Steve Jobs, Mohammed Ali, Nikola Tesla, Leonardo Da Vinci, Mike Tyson, Socrates, Isaac Newton, Kanye west, 50 cent, Donald Trump

Cite a peer reviewed paper from Nikola Tesla or Isaac Newton on SR.

peaceful_strong_man · 2019-05-15T12:29:10+00:00

I don’t think there is “semen retention” as semen gets released when you urinate and with nocturnal emissions. What really gives people the drive during nofap is the built up sexual energy.

grimmygrimgrim · 2019-05-15T15:48:13+00:00

Only problem with this is when you have sex it’s hard not to nut quickly lol

tyronethejabrone · 2019-05-15T10:17:08+00:00

Woahhh brother you can’t be posting stuff like this on here

MoDuReddit · 2019-05-15T13:38:47+00:00

Not wanking does not give you super powers.

Illiaan · 2019-05-15T10:54:27+00:00

Isaac Newton invented gravity in hopes that some pussy would finally fall on him. Yes, he invented it.

Title	The key you've been missing
Author	Rkingpin
Upvotes	60
Comments	79
Date	May 15, 2019 10:08 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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