The Male Epiphany Phase

Auvergnat · 2019-03-14T23:26:36+00:00

Male sexual strategy is really underdiscussed on the manosphere compared to female one, so it’s a welcomed article. What he describes is most definitely a thing. Explains how all PUAs end up dropping, or that all TRP ECs end up disappearing. Roosh is currently experiencing this effect in quite an extreme manner - listening to his podcasts feel like tuning in to tradcon radio.

I wish Karl would have discussed the cause a bit more though. The trigger is definitely some form of disillusionment with following the alpha fucks strategy. Over time, women lose their shiny appeal, seduction loses its excitement, sex becomes routine. Direction and challenge are what motivate men into action, so what do you do when you end up facing that question “and now what?” What do you do when you’ve reached the top of that mountain? Sitting there till you die would most definitely not even come to a man’s mind.

Instead he would just walk down and look for another, bigger, mountain. And fatherhood/community seems like a natural choice, maybe the only one. Sure there’s also wealth or professional impact, but you can follow those while still alpha-fucking your way to them so in your mind it’s not that different: you’re still on the top of the mountain and it still feels numb and unappealing. No, you don’t have a choice. To shake off the numbness, you need to climb it down.

I’m not saying this is recommended, or justified, or good. I’m only saying that this behaviour would be totally expected, given male psychology.

2019-03-15T02:12:24+00:00

From the piece:

There is very little difference between the age when women seek to rope in a beta, and the age in which pick-up artists and former playboys start to see their lives as empty provided that they found game in their early twenties. The man who finds game in his late twenties or thirties, perhaps even later as a result of a divorce, or similar situation in his life, does not seem to develop in this same way, he does not feel the same urge for the transition phase

Damned good points. I was a loser clear into my early 40's, and now I feel 0 urge for any transition phase, I'm still doubling down.

maverick9759 · 2019-03-15T19:12:33+00:00

Is this supposed to mean like epiphany is something which happens after you had all the fun sex over a long time ? Like suddenly " I've fucked everything I wanted to .. now what ? " Moment ?

If that's the case I experience a mini epiphany every time I have an orgasm ( I am still 21). Before the sex I keep thinking the things I am gonna do and how soul shaking it would be. After it's over am like .. " that's it ? .. I need something greater .. a bigger high .. wayyy bigger.. this ain't enough. " And then I immediately have the desire to master something .. do something dangerous .. ride a dirt bike, shoot a few rounds or something. I suddenly wanna surpass whatever I am into something much more. I don't even know how to define ' much more '

oooKenshiooo · 2019-03-17T00:30:37+00:00

The problem is, that these men still make women the center point of their life. As a PUA, as a tradcon, as an incel - it all revolves around women.

I switched my goals towards music, spirituality und martial arts. I will LTR a girl if it suits me, but otherwise I am content banging whores and not wasting a any more thought and energy on them than necessary.

Gastraphetess · 2019-03-15T00:08:03+00:00

I´ve been thinking about this for the past month, what a coincidence! From what I´ve seen, the epiphany phase starts when most of your friends are in LTRs and getting married.

With the rise of dating apps night game is dying and all nightclubs and bars look like gay clubs with 80% men. Day game is the future, it requires a different approach and mentality (which this whole male epiphany is about).

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-03-17T02:17:15+00:00

For myself, getting into Red Pill past 30 was a blessing. I'd had success with women, not as much as I would have liked. Being older, though, I had enough life experience to know sex and women were ultimately not THAT important. A notch belt and bragging rights isn't THAT important.

It's great, and part of being a healthy male, and a lot of fun. However, I already knew that once the conquest was had, the post orgasmic feelings hit, you know that their is a lot more important things to life.

It's healthier to get into this stuff after life experience. I think it's natural to have epiphanies when you're older. They only come after experience. Mine has been that sex and women are an expression of my masculinity. They are a release for it. But that masculinity is proven, forged and built in far different areas.

Anyone who makes 'game' the focus of their life, from an early age is severely fucking things up. I sometimes wonder how many young red pillers will wake up at 30 to 35 and say 'oh shit...I did everything for the purpose of getting laid'.

textualintercourse · 2019-03-19T18:15:15+00:00

"...because over time all game becomes scripted, it was easy to tell in the responses which men had very little experience and which men were quite experienced, because as you practice game, you also streamline game."

God's truth right there. When you realize AWALT, and it truly sets in the LITERALLY ALL WOMEN ARE THE SAME just wearing different skins, the game defaults to easy mode. You can apply the definition of insanity to work in your favor. Doing the same thing over and over and getting the same result, in this case laid.

SKRedPill · 2019-03-15T04:49:10+00:00

Male epiphany occurs for two reasons.

You haven't gone through an entire cycle of life. Men who've been through divorces, etc. in one way they built an entire life and then lost it. That changes them in many ways.
Nature's goal was to make you have children. Casual sex, even for men, is not exactly something nature intended us to do to this extent.
You've overeaten on sex and women. It's time to take a step back. Only a certain amount of hunger gives you a need for food.
Roosh really needs some spirituality and zen for a while.

Title	The Male Epiphany Phase
Author	OutsideTheCage3
Upvotes	27
Comments	14
Date	March 14, 2019 9:52 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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