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Trigger warning: A slut's each additional sexual partner increased the odds of infidelity by 7%

realniggasstandup

July 15, 2013
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Title Trigger warning: A slut's each additional sexual partner increased the odds of infidelity by 7%
Author

realniggasstandup

Upvotes 73
Comments 42
Date July 15, 2013 6:51 PM UTC
(13 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1icv3y/trigger_warning_a_sluts_each_additional_sexual/
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[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion21 points22 points23 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

• The survey that this study is based on was done in 1995

• Out of 10,847 women between the ages of 15 and 44 that responded (79% response rate), 4884 women that were married for 13+ months were interviewed twice

• The ethnicity of these 4884 women were 85.8% White, 6.8% Black, 4.0% Asian, 0.4% American Indian, 0.1% multiracial, and 2.3% other; 0.5% of the sample did not respond to the question asking about race.

• Participants had been married an average of 10.55 years (SD 6.66, range 1–29).

Keep in mind that the authors of this study state:

Because most people view infidelity unfavorably, the assessment of infidelity is likely to be influenced by social desirability and impression management: The socially desirable response would be to deny that one has engaged in infidelity to avoid shame or embarrassment and to conform to perceived social norms. Therefore, prevalence estimates for infidelity are likely to vary depending upon how much they are influenced by social desirability. For example, social desirability effects are likely to be large in a face-to face interview relative to an anonymous self-report questionnaire, thereby likely resulting in lower prevalence rates of infidelity in the interview format relative to the questionnaire format.

So the prevalence of infidelity is probably under-reported in this study.

[–]gordonthrows4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually like your opinion.

[–]realniggasstandup[S] 28 points29 points30 points 13 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link

Study of 4k+ women.

Each year of education decreased the chance of infidelity by 10% but each sexual partner increased it by 7%.

[–]fuckingdanzig11 points12 points13 points 13 years ago (26 children) | Copy Link

Good study. Thanks for the post. More evidence of why promiscuous women don't make good partners long-term.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion19 points20 points21 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They make great partners in long-term FWB relationships. Just not relationships of the traditional kind.

[–]luxury_banana2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

Most ~20 year old girls have had sex with at least 4 or 5 guys, to put things into perspective on how big that partner count usually is.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 13 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link

4 or 5? You really believe that? Y'all motherfuckers need to go out more.

[–]ChaoticParadox7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

They start younger and younger. You're lucky if the average 18-year-old hasn't slept with ten or more people these days.

[–]Ragnar0910 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link

They are becoming worthless younger and younger.

[–]ChaoticParadox0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

I'd say the average american girl starts having sex during grade school these days. By high school, she's probably slept with at least a dozen boys. At graduation, that number has tripled. College is full on slut mode.

[–]Ragnar0912 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yuck.

[–]ChaoticParadox0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just going off observations from my own experience growing up, and based off the boon of information provided with the advent of the internet.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

that seems highly inaccurate. Personally I never encountered a girl who had sex before 14, I would like to see statistics that confirm your assumption.

[–]ChaoticParadox4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Type the words "teen pregnancy" or "teen mom" into Google and let me know if my observations are still inaccurate. This shit happens just as surely as drug abuse.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I know there are cases of young girls having sex (obviously), I just don't believe they are the majority.

[–]anakinastronaut1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I know so many I can't count, at my middle school, there was a girl a grade lower than me with a 2 year old child. Then, back when I was more beta/less apathetic, I would hear shit like, "I just wish I could suck his dick again" from 6th graders when trying to be all sympathetic towards dumpees I knew.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

WOW that does not happen where I'm from

[+]puaSenator-15 points-14 points-13 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Hey! It's Ragnar09 with more misogyny! You really do hate all women don't you?

[–]TRP Vanguardlegendofpasta6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Take your M word and get out

[–]Maschalismos0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

So what if he does? Maybe he has reason to.

[–]puaSenator0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then he needs therapy or something, because people like him are who make this sub look bad.

[+][deleted] -7 points-6 points-5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

lucky? you're saying it as if it's a bad thing mate.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm seeing something difrerent:

In illustration of this, the odds ratio of 1.13 for lifetime sexual partners obtained with the face-to-face mode of interview indicates that the probability of infidelity increased by 13% for every additional lifetime sexual partner, whereas the odds ratio of 5.16 for premarital cohabitation obtained with the face-to-face mode of interview indicates that the probability of infidelity was 5.16 times more likely for those who cohabited relative to those who did not cohabit.

[–]realniggasstandup[S] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's for the face-to-face interviews. Check the OR numbers on the automated/computer interview: 1.07 per partner, 0.90 per education.

They believe the computer/automated interview is more accurate since sluts wouldn't want to feel like sluts in front of an actual interviewer.

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In case anyone is wondering where the information is from, it's the chart on the top of page 4.

[–]Labarum3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Another interesting way to interpret that one: when asked face-to-face, women cut their reported N in half.

[–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do you feel the need to call women you never met and no nothing about sluts? It speaks volumes about the type of person you are.

[–][deleted] 2 points2 points2 points 13 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]mnhr2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That presupposes that a woman couldn't be both.

[–]phattsao1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my experience, smart girls are often very slutty

[–]TRP VanguardYouDislikeMyOpinion3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Another summary from this study:

Description Face to Face Interview Interview via computer questionaire
Factors that are significantly positively associated with infidelity race, lifetime sexual partners, childhood sexual abuse, premarital cohabitation race, lifetime sexual partners, childhood sexual abuse, premarital cohabitation, remarriage
Factors that are significantly negatively associated with infidelity religiosity religiosity, age, education

[–]I_am_Norwegian5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's up with the trigger warning? Am I on Tumblr suddenly? What's even the "trigger" here?

[–]Hajimotto 9 points10 points11 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Why did you include trigger warning? It is stupid and I will work to have it crushed before it becomes a thing.

[–]realniggasstandup[S] 19 points20 points21 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I put it there to fuck with the lesbians who lurk this place.

[–]Hajimotto 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Good

[–]TRP Vanguardlegendofpasta1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was thinkin the same thing.

Also, I have great distaste for phrases like 'man up' because it's a shaming tactic invented by Cosmo. I see people here try to 'own it, lol, like the blacks and gays own their pejoratives' but thats full on embracing victimilogy. As men who are opposing victim status I find it highly ironic.

[–]Hajimotto 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As a gay, I would like to point out that gays really do not own their pejoratives. On every gay related subreddit at least one post on the front two pages will be someone whinny about someone saying something offensive or for saying an offensive word. Personally I do not care, but I think the gays at least are far from owning their pejoratives.

[–]ThorLives4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

While the incidence of infidelity increased by 7% (or 13% depending on the survey), I have to wonder what the baseline rate of infidelity is to begin with. (Let me explain.) They claim a lifetime infidelity rate in the beginning of the paper (20%-25% for women). But, there were four factors that are big ones for infidelity.

According to the data, the biggest factors are (note there were two modes of interviews, so there's two different percentages):

  • Childhood sexual abuse (increases chances of infidelity by 344% or 192% -- 268% average).

  • Premarital cohabitation (increases chances of infidelity by 416% or 47% -- 231% average).

  • Being black (increases chances of infidelity by 235% or 152% -- 193% average).

  • Being remarried (increases chances of infidelity by 109% or 86% -- 97% average)

  • Per sexual partner (increases chances of infidelity by 13% or 7% -- 10% average). (Or, to put it another way, for every 10 sexual partners: 130% or 70%).

Obviously, there might be some correlations involved (e.g. someone who was sexually abused might be more likely to have more sexual partners than someone who wasn't sexually abused). It would be interesting to see how those factors drop out. (I'm assuming they didn't do a regression.) For example, if women who were abused as children have 10 more sexual partners than women who were not abused, then we'd see a correlation between infidelity and number of sexual partners, but what's going on is that infidelity and number of sexual partners is correlated to the third factor (sexual abuse). This would mean "number of sexual partners" in itself would have lower correlation to infidelity than the reported 7% (or 13%).

Getting back to the question of the "baseline" rate of sexual infidelity, if being black, remarried, cohabitation, and sexual abuse are such big factors, then the "baseline" (for someone who is none of those things) might be quite low to begin with.

To compare risk factors for infidelity, you could say:

  • (Childhood sexual abuse) is equivalent to (no sexual abuse + 27 sexual partners)

  • (Premarital cohabitation) is equivalent to (no-cohabitation + 23 sexual partners)

  • (Being black) is equivalent to (not-black + 19 sexual partners)

  • (Being remarried) is equivalent to (not remarried + 10 sexual partners)

[–]rztzz4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm sure it works the same for guys.

I've slept with 25+ women, and have also cheated 3-4 times.

[–]TRP Vanguardlegendofpasta1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Same.

[–]SinfulPhilanthropist2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Starting at what percentage?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fantastic -- I always love hard data about stuff like this. Question for OP: do you have any more? Especially more recent (since this comes from 1995, I wouldn't be surprised if these results lowballed infidelity rates among women)?

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