What does TRP consider “damaged goods” when it comes to women?

Seneca_13 · 2021-11-25T08:53:56+00:00

There is nothing wrong with hooking up with high n count women, they are fun, but their ability to pair bond is damaged. They will never be wife or LTR material, never give them exclusivity and never expect loyalty or compassion from them, they just don't have it in them anymore.

At some point high n count women notice the women who have low n counts and are happy in their monogamous relationships realize that they will never have that, this makes them resentful and they will attempt to sabotage people in happy long term relationships by trying to influence the woman to be unfaithful or by trying to seduce the man. I've seen it a trillion times and have been a statistic of this myself.

High n count women are good time girls, it goes as far as that and no further. They have the ability to fall in love but have no patience for it. They belong to the game, and they can't stop playing. You can't make a hoe a housewife, it can't be don't.

Sluts are people too, you can be friends with them and you can have fun with them, but as soon as you expect more emotional connection they will disappoint you, they cannot handle the responsibility. So as long as you don't expect from them what they are not capable of giving you and her will get along fine

CanadianSnowUpMyAss · 2021-11-25T08:26:47+00:00

Every person has different boundaries and requirements when it comes to women.

But in general a slut isn't ever going to be wife material, they're just useful to string along for a solid few months of shagging until I'm bored. Lol. So this would be one example of damaged goods.

A very low n-count is also fundamental for me to not classify a woman as damaged goods.

319Skew · 2021-11-25T15:09:34+00:00

The overwhelming majority of people are damaged.

We live in an environment where we're instructed to embrace hedonistic desires and incorporate them into an our identity.

Self reflection is a rare occurrence and it's more important to be able to display virtues rather than abide by them.

So, each person draws a line in the sand based on what options they have and are willing to compromise on.

That said there's obviously bad (red flags) indicators of extreme hardship or costs in investing time in a person with certain qualities.

Some guys here don't like women who have ink and wouldn't entertain the notion of a LTR as it displays poor impulse control.

I, personally, don't care. There are too many people who have tattoos and are great. Some have profound meaning and are respectable. Some are stupid and they got them when they were young. I don't mind that so it's not a red flag. However, I wouldn't consider her LTR material if her entire body is covered by tattoos. I'd see that as a cope for some kind of trauma.

Lot of guys try to make a stringent list for an LTR and that's great. Have standards but then be OK when women can't meet that and build a life with the notion of not getting that dream girl.

Don't put women on a pedestal. They're flawed and if you dig through her past you will find dirt.

Trad con low n count girl you're eyeing has almost no N count but she's been raped by a step father when she was 10. Deal breaker?

That submissive HB 9 that you're like right now may become a feminist because of her friends in the future. Did you waste your time on her?

That one girl who you're considering LTR due to her low N count has been with 3 guys but one was a 40 year old man who made her eat ass for rent and was into scat play. The other two were at the same time. Is she better or worse than a woman who was banged 6 guys but kept it vanilla?

Point is go out there, smash and experience. Accept that the the higher your standards the fewer people will meet them and be ok with that notion. People aren't perfect. But also, be mindful that you're risking more and gaining less from building a foundation on poor ground (red flags).

bassman_gio · 2021-11-25T17:08:16+00:00

Get to know how to recognize the signs of Cluster B personality disorders. These women are a must avoid and can destroy your life if you even so much as hook up with them.

Cluster B personality disorders are characterized by dramatic, overly emotional or unpredictable thinking or behavior. They include antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder, histrionic personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder.

Antisocial personality disorder

Disregard for others' needs or feelings

Persistent lying, stealing, using aliases, conning others

Recurring problems with the law

Repeated violation of the rights of others

Aggressive, often violent behavior

Disregard for the safety of self or others

Impulsive behavior

Consistently irresponsible

Lack of remorse for behavior

Borderline personality disorder

Furious attempts to avoid abandonment whether real or imagined

Impulsive and risky behavior, such as having unsafe sex, gambling or binge eating

Unstable or fragile self-image

Unstable and intense relationships

Up and down moods, often as a reaction to interpersonal stress

Suicidal behavior or threats of self-injury

Intense fear of being alone or abandoned

Ongoing feelings of emptiness

Frequent, intense displays of anger

Stress-related paranoia that comes and goes

Histrionic personality disorder

Constantly seeking attention

Excessively emotional, dramatic or sexually provocative to gain attention

Speaks dramatically with strong opinions, but few facts or details to back them up

Easily influenced by others

Shallow, rapidly changing emotions

Excessive concern with physical appearance

Thinks relationships with others are closer than they really are

Narcissistic personality disorder

Belief that you're special and more important than others

Fantasies about power, success and attractiveness

Failure to recognize others' needs and feelings

Exaggeration of achievements or talents

Expectation of constant praise and admiration

Arrogance

Unreasonable expectations of favors and advantages, often taking advantage of others

Envy of others or belief that others envy you

Loud-Bottle-7879 · 2021-11-25T16:44:47+00:00

My main damaged goods sign I look for. If they have a long run of “situationships”. Shows they really don’t care about themselves and are hurting inside. If she doesn’t have a track record of being able to be committed to one man, why would you consider that woman? I mean there are the other obvious things like a shitload of tattoos, piercings, etc. but with how the culture pushes this stuff I know some very decent women that have tattoos nowadays. Their track record with “relationships” is what I look for when considering if they are damaged goods. I will also avoid women at all costs who take antidepressants, anti anxiety meds or sleeping pills. They are all absolutely insane. Sleeping pills is one people often look past but that means their mind is filled with so much chaos they can not get any internal peace for rest.

mediagator · 2021-11-25T07:52:26+00:00

Which one of these categories does your oneitis belong in really?

ItsNotD · 2021-11-25T16:06:52+00:00

From past experience, I draw the line on drug use & mental illness for any female, regardless if its just sex or serious. These women are too much hassle during AND after you’re done with them.

I’m not too fussed about N count as long as I don’t know the person. Everything else I can deal with

shjshshdhd · 2021-11-25T20:16:15+00:00

For a serious long term relationship? Body count, daddy issues, feminism, anger issues, prior or current drug use including weed. Following what you said with tattoos. Delusional. Narcissistic. Any gas lighting. A relationship ending by them and not her. INCLUDING HER BEING CHEATED ON… Yeah if she thinks sex shouldn’t be taboo, a number is irrelevant, and listen to this one “virginity does not exist.” 🤦‍♂️ If she does hook ups. If she has sex outside of a serious relationship. If she thinks any form of prostitution (including only fans) is ok… if she thinks women should be able to do anything without anyone mentioning lack of respect or not agreeing with her.. If she thinks “value/class” “wifey type” doesn’t exist or should not exist.. Overweight could be another one as I’m not kidding they think just because they have people trying to have sex they run the show and it doesn’t matter.. Dyes hair is another good one as they went through some serious emotional issues and changes to move into a new phase.. same with they “just having fun” and “getting it out of their system” and being ready to settle down… not wanting to talk about the past or any lies at all 🚩Don’t ignore the red flags.. don’t make the same mistake I did..

PabloEscalera · 2021-11-25T08:16:28+00:00

TRP isn't some sort of monolith. At the end of the day, you determine your own criteria, but broadly speaking if she checks many of these boxes it's a bad idea.

She could be high N count and still behave appropriately, same goes for tats, it's an individual thing (save for when she has glaring P disorders, and somebody's parents generally aren't a very important piece of the puzzle since most marriages end in divorce regardless)

The answer to the sex work one is also pretty obvious haha

TheStumblingWolf · 2021-11-25T14:25:52+00:00

I feel like this should be on askTRP

Wash_Your_Winkie · 2021-11-25T19:40:21+00:00

In the other direction, church and religiosity is a major counterbalance (spirituality generally does not count here). Not having male friends is a good counterbalance. Having a conservative family who she is close with is extremely underrated.

However, there may be a cute southern belle who grew up on a ranch and loves Trump, but is an absolute whore, meanwhile some New York City raised mean girl who has a Masters degree and is actually a submissive virgin. You have to be intelligent lol.

TheDeadlyZebra · 2021-11-26T00:22:53+00:00

All of your questions are about red flags and I think most people here wouldn't consider them to be immediate dealbreakers (except perhaps being a sexworker). The threshold for aggregate red flags likely depends on each person.

Also, I'm curious to know what a married Asian woman wants with this information anyways. I'll admit there are interesting questions that you ask though.

AshyLarry27 · 2021-11-26T01:36:03+00:00

Damaged goods can be subjective, but primarily stressed for men looking for LTR's. If you're just hooking up, who cares about damaged goods. Its simply implying there are issues with her, yes, but a lot of what you point out are still girls you can slip it into.

RedPill115 · 2021-11-27T13:55:39+00:00

History of Sexual Abuse, Assault or Rape or Attempted Rape

This one I'd describe differently, how you know with someone you just met? It's because they made a point of telling you.

Women who define themselves per some sexual assault are a problem. Like imagine you walk into a job interview for a programmer and they started going on about how the ceo's last 5 companies imploded and failed "because of those g-damn programmers!".

You wouldn't take a job there if you have idea of how they're just looking for their next scapegoat.

Agreable_Actuator84 · 2021-11-25T16:16:50+00:00

I wouldn’t think TRP has any such list or category. You have goals, and as I understand it given my tiny Neanderthal brain, TRP provides a mental framework for effectively reaching those goals. The TRP tools are there for you to use as you see fit. So you are the decider of who is or is not too damaged for whatever use you want them for.

zino193 · 2021-11-25T20:38:23+00:00

Previous Partner/Spousal Abuse

Yes. They have the most broken pair bonding reflex in my experience. But it actually manifests like quite the opposite at the begining. Easier going, easy to lead. But they never really turn off testing, they will just stop verbalizing it. But I would make a caveat. Only women that stayed with their abuser. That activelly went through a bonding process over months or years in which they rationalized and studied the abusers behavior.

History of Sexual Abuse, Assault or Rape or Attempted Rape

No, but it would require a lot of work. Attempted rape and assault doesn't count. Sorry, if you fought clawed and cried and make the abuser imposible to do his stuff, you are a 10/10 woman in my book. I will trust you to go out with the girls over any other woman. You stared the most agressive form of masculine in the face and said - you are not getting pussy you enraged little wimp with no social skills.

Prior or Current Drug Use

Yeah, especially recovered drug users - those women are some of the most grounded and mature women you can find. There's no temptation out there that moves them anymore. They do require 100% honesty tho - usually have had shit relationships and have trust issues.

Divorced Parents

Yes, kinda. The divorce is not a issue - the cause of that divorce - usually a woman that thinks she can do better and husbands are like pineaples is the issue. Once that is the model for Mother - you will not have a normal perpective on what a relationship is - you will demand to be served and catered to as the primary indicator of love, relationship success... and so on.

High N Count

No, in my experience there is no vestal virgin. A virgin is just a slut that's too scared to be raped a few times in her search for bliss. I even know retired sluts that are the perfect wifes, they foind a big dick bruiser that makes them feel like a little girl when they take them in their arms, and all else is forgotten. What I would caution is High R count, the serial relationship doer. Those are fucked up in the same line as the girls from the previous paragraphs.

Tattoos

Yes, but it's hard to call this one anymore. It's very generally accepted. Let's call this corelated rather than causal. Impulsivity, lack of a complex personality and short term thiking makes for both fun sluts - and getting tatoos. But like mentioned previously - N count isn't a deal breaker so this isn't either.

Mental Illness Treated and Untreated

Depends on the amount of self awareness. I only dated one self aware girl with a mental illness (calling yourself out on IG for your selfishness doesn't count as self awareness) she told me within the first 30 minutes. We talked about rules and how we can make it work. We had fun and when we stopped we broke it off - a bit sad but nothing terrible.

Partier Without The High N Count

Depends on their self awareness. Partying can be a lifestyle, can be a job, and they can be perfectly domestic. One of my favorite couples is between a club promoter and a former hostes. They work perfectly, they respect each other and are amazing parents.

Feminist, Humanist, Egalitarian not 100% Traditional

No, but not for amateurs. If Feminist is their identity - definetly you need to be a pro and have iron clad frame and a wicked sharp game. The opposite however is a worse sign. I found anti-feminists recently to be a more homogeneous group. Let's face it - every woman that can read, is probably going to say men and women should be equal. Among those you will find good ones, bad ones and the terrible. However when a woman calls herself a antifeminist, when she is on the inside - that woman is out on the hunt. And I'll leave it at that. It feels good, it will be imensely mentally comfortable to finally have your ideas validated. But my dude, that's how they get you. Which is fine, some of you deserve to be got - and these women will probably be the kindest and most caring women that will ever have your balls in their purse, but you will still give them your balls.

Has any sort of “progressive” views

Yes, in the sense that any woman that lick arse have to be somewhat progressive.

Previous Relationship/Marriage

No, that's my target demographic. I think all women that can have 3+ years of relationships ONLY - are gold. Are better than the conservative fantasy unicorn. 3 years means you tried. If you did multiple of at least 3 years, it means you are a trooper that gives everyone your best.

Former or Current Sex Worker

Sex worker is a intentionally misleading term to get twitteraty feminists selling their panties online to advocate for literal human traffickers that moonlight as whores. (Most recruiters are women, not the Rap Video PIMPs)

History of Childhood Abuse

No, but requires a lot of work. Similar to rape. It depends if this is her only issue. It means she processed it, and if she didn't do anything else... then she is ok.

Narcissistic Behavior

Nah, sex is just too good, just don't share personal details

Overweight I mean the whole BBW SSBBW thing is well…..a thing. Side note Feederism is beyond fucked up.

Yes. I just can not fuck. So it's a no starter. For others- I would warn them - most of these women do not like themselfs. I mean genuinely - and they will not know how to love or like you. But I know plenty of dudes that get a lot of milleage out of slam-pigs, so maybe... if you get your Johnny to cooperate.

Dyes Hair Different Colors

Yes, but because of preference. I was charmed repeatedly by girls with wacky hair. And funny enough, as I think about it now - they all looked worse with their natural hair color for some wierd reason. So they were actually right in trying new stuff.

Title	What does TRP consider “damaged goods” when it comes to women?
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Date	November 25, 2021 7:36 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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