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Women (Try To) Ruin Everything: Intel's Sarah Sharp Scolds Linus Torvalds For 'Abusive Language'

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July 16, 2013
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Title Women (Try To) Ruin Everything: Intel's Sarah Sharp Scolds Linus Torvalds For 'Abusive Language'
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Upvotes 93
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Date July 16, 2013 12:49 AM UTC
(13 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1ido2y/women_try_to_ruin_everything_intels_sarah_sharp/
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[–]NohjEdo 79 points80 points81 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This dude get's mad respect.

if you want me to 'act professional', I can tell you that I'm not interested. I'm sitting in my home office wearing a bathrobe. The same way I'm not going to start wearing ties, I'm also not going to buy into the fake politeness, the lying, the office politics and backstabbing, the passive aggressiveness, and the buzzwords. Because THAT is what 'acting professionally' results in: people resort to all kinds of really nasty things because they are forced to act out their normal urges in unnatural ways

[–]lordofthejelly 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit I'm saving this

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

who would have thought, linux programmers are based

[+]Jiujitsuismygf -10 points-9 points-8 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

who would have thought the Linux nerd has got big balls

[–]the_letter_P 68 points69 points70 points 13 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

This always happens when a woman tries to enter a male space. there are very very few male spaces left these days that haven't been forced to have quotas and PC bullshit injected into it. Its just that "donglegate" bullshit all over again.

These women fail to understand male social dynamics. All male groups have a sort of right of passage where people have to prove their worth. This includes berating the lower members who must show their mettle and climb the ranks. this is how respect is won and how men thrive. All male groups I have ever been a part of shared this dynamic of lots of ribbing and respect earning. It makes the members strong and 'battle hardened' to the environment and ensures that those with the most talent rise to the top.

Then as always women have to invade and try to mak them change the way things are done to cater to them. "No more insults, they hurt our feeeeelllss! Everyone should be equal and not offend anyone". What really pisses me off is that women seem to just have to invade every male space their is. sports, programming, etc. This is usually forced by the government with quotas and affirmative action, and everyone has to then walk on eggshells instead of getting shit done.

You don't see men invading women spaces, do you? Men don't start demanding to be accepted into knitting groups and then saying, "lets make this place male friendly and start being crude and outcome orientated" We leave them to it, and don't get offended there aren't any men in it and claim it must be because its a matriarchal, sexist group.

Anyway, because of this there is very few male friendly places around. That's why I like this place. One of the few places I can just speak my mind without the PC brigade jumping on me for not being "sensitive" to someone.

[–]Petrarch1603 18 points19 points20 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of how the skeptic movement was ruined by Rebecca Watson and her 'Skepchicks'

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It ain't a womens vs men thing. It's a whiny bitch thing IMHO. Those SRS trannies would be much worse.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

only if man is a whiny bitch he gets put in line by his co-workers and dropped in status to the bottom where cleaning staff is

[–]Clauderoughly 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

HEY !

Don't hate the cleaning staff, they are actually USEFUL.

He'd be put in with marketing.

[–]HockeySwag 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Lol I didn't say judge. In any group everyone's not equal that's just the way it is. This is just what I noticed. More jokes towards them and small requests ect. Ever since I started pulling girls I get way more respect although no one directly aknowledged it."

I said that in a ask women thread and got straight shitted on.

[+]refrigeratorbob -10 points-9 points-8 points 13 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Why is programming a male space exactly?

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself 19 points20 points21 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because a majority of programmers (ie not "managers" but actual programmers) are male.

[–]ThePacketSlinger 42 points43 points44 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

How many programmers do you know, exactly?

[–]refrigeratorbob 24 points25 points26 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck, I had thought he meant television programming, dont mind me im a bit high and sleepy

[–]ThePacketSlinger 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha your comment suddenly makes way more sense. Television programming is definitely not a male space, so I get where you were coming from!

[–]IdleGod 16 points17 points18 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it's outcome oriented.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–]kratol10 points 13 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Meh, that's not really true. As a group they statistically are non going to be into it, but the ones that I've interviewed and worked with are just as bad or good as the men.

None of them were born in the USA although, although. It's as my Indian friend said, not many people in america are interested in CS.

[–]SinfulPhilanthropist5 points 13 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

It's been my experience that if you take the most average of men, and the most average of women, you'll find that the man will think more logically, and the woman more emotionally. Obviously some women will be more logical than some men, and some men will be more emotional than some women, but law of averages. As computer science and programming is basically applied logic and math, you'll find a vast majority of people in it will be men.

[–]kratol1 points 13 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

That's why I said: "As a group(women) they statistically are not going to be into it." But the ones that are into it are not less competent I've found.

[–]SinfulPhilanthropist1 point 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I've only met about 5, and I'd say 3 of them were rather bad. But that's pretty much par for the course for programmers I suppose.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

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[–]pcadrian 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Both work fine.

++someintvariable; 

first increments the variable, then returns the new value, while

someintvariable++; 

will return the current value, then increment the variable.

More info here.

[–]DasEwigeLicht 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Both are fine.

[–]MightyCrotch -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's a diff, not an increment. (I'm guessing).

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You nerds.

[–]stalinbaby 38 points39 points40 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Hahahaha, some nobody from Intel is trying to lecture Linus Torvalds. How cute. Talk about snowflake mentality.

And this is one more reason why Linus deserves all the respect he can get. I don't know about his personal life (he might be a beta, I have no clue), but he really knows his shit when it comes to social interaction with distributed developers.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Hahahaha, some nobody from Intel is trying to lecture Linus Torvalds. How cute. Talk about snowflake mentality.

Exactly my thoughts, how does one gets her ego inflated so much? Even people who have nothing in common with professional IT know who Linus Torvalds is and what Linux is.

[–]freewanderer 37 points38 points39 points 13 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

And that's why there are no women devs in our startup (and we intend to keep it that way).

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]Clauderoughly 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In the nice, comfy air conditioned office.

[–]cooledcannon 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

You can hire some hot girls for eye candy.

[–]nerdflu 12 points13 points14 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Booth babes [X]

Devs [ ]

;)

[–]chiffonade- 23 points24 points25 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

not worth the money, time, or headache. i run an all-male startup also.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

This is a terrible idea. Running a business is opposite of running game.

1) hot girls invite sexual harassment suits whether legitimate or not.

2) a girl in her 20s is more likely to get pregnant which will then lead to lots of time off during and for years after. This is both expensive and will result in work not getting done.

3) a hot girl is more likely to be looking for a man to marry rather than actually trying to get more work done.

It is likely that you will need to hire women due to govt, but you can select better workers (hint: not hotties). The ideal female candidate (since you are forced to have some) is an post-menapausal woman who is un-attractive.

[–]MightyCrotch 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Running a business is opposite of running game.

I think you meant hiring women. Business and Game are almost universally interchangeable.

1) Not always. In fact, most of the time not. 2) Make it clear you don't have or support a mat leave program (this may be illegal in your province/state) 3) This is true for all women, but most men as well.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

1) When you compare a man or an older woman to the young girl, the former have no or almost no risk of this problem. Why take the risk? The young woman likely doesn't offer anything special to make this risk worth it.

2) I am not sure what my local law is on this, but some places do require it by law. You can avoid this law, and discrimination laws, by hiring older women. Again, there is no good reason to take the risk of having to deal with it if an alternative exists.

3) Ya, but part of the man's mating strategy is being accomplished in his career. The company's and his interests are aligned. Even if he does get married and have kids, it will be unlikely to affect his performance. It may even improve it now that he has more expenses.

[–]cooledcannon 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

thats mainly a problem with the legal system and the country/ies you live in rather than actually a problem with hiring them.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Right, USA specific.

[–]cooledcannon 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, with reasonable laws(i dont actually know countries whicb have them, but still) there are many advantages to hiring hot secretaries like improving morale/objectification etc.

[–]the_leander 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Many of the points made would also apply to western Europe too, possibly much of eaten Europe as well though I'm not as familiar with their employment laws.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Honestly, my gut feeling is that it would probably be worse in Europe from what I have read about it. I don't have direct experience so I can't say.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points26 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Verbal abuse is common amongst men from whatever age we develop the ability to take the piss out of each other. If you can't play at the big boys table, don't sit and whine. You aren't obliged to be there.

[–][deleted] 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Depends how big of a feminist you are.

(No, I don't have a serious answer.)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That depends if you automatically take the stance of being a victim, so by her definition, probably yes.

[–]captshady 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know that it can all be put into words, plus it's a bit different from person to person. For the most part though, it's always been an unspoken, undefined thing that naturally occurs among men.

To make the case for men vs. women in the work place, you see a LOT more of this in construction, than you do in a corporate office.

[–]soapjackal 24 points25 points26 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Political Correctness is the worst. Abide by my cultural standards in all circumstances or else I'll force the majority on you.

Cop out bullshit.

[–]duglock 13 points14 points15 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

When women are verbally abusive (a phrase I don't believe in btw but will use for sake of context) they are being a strong, independent woman. If a man does it he is a violent monster.

[–]stalinbaby 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When women act manly, they're being strong, independent women. When men act manly, they're brutes.

[–]TRP Vanguardss_camaro 14 points15 points16 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Lipstick feminists are PC government moles. It's like Terminator 3. They look hot, but will shape-shift fuck your year up.

They should all go through sniffer dogs and/or be denied at the gate. They're not worth a fuckin' wasted minute..

[–]TRP Vanguardlegendofpasta 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my mind, you are Sean Connery.

[–]somercet 10 points11 points12 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

stabs marc.info with mouse

WHERE'S THE UPVOTE BUTTON??!?

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNzxdxTM5UI

[–]chiffonade- 6 points7 points8 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

a bit long. i think a "fuck off and fuck you if you don't like it" would have done fine.

[–]triad33 -5 points-4 points-3 points 13 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

This doesn't belong on TRP. There is nothing "woman-specific" about this -- plenty of males have complained in the past about Linus's language and it has always been dismissed in similar ways as this one. I see it as more of a cultural difference than anything, perhaps party because of Linus's own admission. If you think the overly-PC culture is bad in the US, ask someone about the office culture in India or China.

And no those cultural differences are not due to "feminism in the workplace." Software is always a boys' club and the (few) women in the industry know this and accept it. They would not be able to succeed in a male-dominated industry without at least being partially redpilled.

[–]grubstake11 points 13 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Political correctness is an attempt to protect feelings, a very female-oriented desire, which is why it doesn't exist in male-dominated groups.

And no, not all women in the software, or other male-dominated industries know this. This is why we're seeing more and more shit like donglegate and issues with dancers at events. They're making a stink and it stinks.

[+]triad33 -8 points-7 points-6 points 13 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

No, this is an extremely shallow worldview that does not even align with TRP. "Feminism" is not the only force that is working towards political correctness. It's not just a social thing, there are economic and cultural forces at work too. How many people are afraid to take a risk at work because of potential loss of health insurance or other benefits, or because of crippling debt? It's not just women with a political agenda, the men are out to get you as well. American culture as a whole has turned people into complacent slaves. The "alpha males" at the top have figured out the secret that emasculating everyone else has an extremely positive effect on their wallets. Like I said this thread does not belong on TRP because it's about workplace drama, it really has nothing to do with "sexual strategy."

Those two things you linked are exceptions, not the rule. Why do you need dancers at a game developers' business event? You're not there to get an eyeful.

[–]grubstake3 points 13 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Sounds like troll. Smells like troll.

Back to SRS with you!

[–]triad33 -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

No, I'm just an actual software developer and I have seen enough pointless political bickering in my time to know that this is just the way things are. Look at Linus's comment, he proudly announces that he has had problems with lots of other developers in the past. He agrees with me; personal scuffles like this happen all the time. It has nothing to do with their sexuality and yes I agree, this entire thread is a troll and belongs in SRS.

[–]TRP Vanguardlegendofpasta -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Silence, noob

[+]baconOclock -15 points-14 points-13 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

A quick glance at her blog reveals her mindset.

http://sarah.thesharps.us/

[–]notnotnotfred 32 points33 points34 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

no, she deserves no page views.

[–]Thekaiser316 15 points16 points17 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was just about to click her link, but you saved me. thanks

[–]tremenfing 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I clicked on the link. It was just normal social justice warrior stuff.

[–]nerdflu 8 points9 points10 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Put site in google, click "view cached", site gets no view, you still get context ;)

[–]SinfulPhilanthropist4 points 13 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:g5uwxZvyZAcJ:sarah.thesharps.us/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

There you go. Doesn't validate her bullshit by giving her page views.

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