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I think a lot of it is manipulation from bitter old hags who have messed up their lives. Rather than coping with the reality of what they have done to themselves, they try to use "feminism" to manipulate other women into making the same mistakes as them.

Too old and ugly to get married? Attack marriage and say it's sexist and women shouldn't get married.

Had so many sexual partners that men don't want to be with you? Manipulate young women to do the same so you don't feel like the odd one out.

Unfortunately, this works because women have a different social hierarchy which works on building connections and following a group, whereas men tend to cooperate or compete so can't be controlled in quite the same way. (Which is why sexy ladies are used to market products aimed at both men and women.)

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To be fair guys (...) too

The entire notion of gender equivalency, which is the diving board your leaping from, is erroneous and is precisely what lead to society both accepting and encouraging female sexual wanton behavior. The phrase 'slut-shaming' is based off of this, that men are shaming women for behaving the same way that men have for millennia. But why...

Men and women desire different things and value different things. To make the equivalency argument is a complete disanalogy.

its def insulting to say a Girl is not "Marriage Material"

And I wonder what the #1 reason most men would site for this?...Yup - a woman with a promiscuous/slutty past.

Does the converse hold true for women? Not at all. It's actually the opposite. If women find out that a man is popular among the ladies, he becomes MORE desirable and the women compete for him.

Theres a reason why the saying ' women are the gatekeepers of sex, men are the gatekeepers of relationships ' is so popular. It's because it's true. Women's libido can't hold a candle to the raw sexual appetite of a young, healthy man. There isn't a large market for male Instagram models, men posing in spandex briefs on Facebook, getting paid to do strip cams, women lining up to watch men play video games in the nude, or a large market of women willing to pay men cold, hard cash in exchange for SEX (male prostitutes) - Women's raw sexual appetite is a fraction of what a man's is ; and it's therefore easier for them to exercise control over it.

" But...but....men do it too !" That's because it's NATURAL for men to do it; it's unnatural for women to do it.

Slut Shaming - ANY fucking woman can spread her legs and get men to fuck her. Not any man can just become a sexual stud. That's one reason why being a slut has always been shamed, she doesn't have to a fucking thing but exist to be a slut. That's not how it works for most men.

Sex also has a different affect on women then it does men. They lose their ability to pair bond much more drastically then men do. One study showed that if a woman had 1 sexual partner prior to marriage the probability of divorce sky rocketed to ~50%. It slightly increases w/the more partners she's had. The same doesn't hold true for men.

The sexes aren't equivalent; they're entirely different and it's painfully obvious to anyone whose not brainwashed by modern feminism.

Women will have sex for a million different reasons - attention, validation, emotions, to hook a man, resources, etc. - men have sex for one reason and one reason only - to bust a fucking nut because they're turned on.

Women are being told they're JUST like men and they should go and act JUST like men...Yet, the more "liberated" they are, the more depressed they are. The depression amongst women is at a record high. That's because women aren't like men and they won't be happy doing what men do and no man wants a female equivalent of himself; especially a slut.

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Here is what's funny about all this. Imagine the guy she's seeing is a super good looking dude say like Calum von Moger. He decides he really loves her and wants to propose. She goes along with it for a few years because she enjoys feeling like she's so hot she can attract that kind of attention.

However, in the back of her mind she knows her boyfriend can't provide the kind of lifestyle she wants going into the future so she strings him along for a little while then drops him. The guy becomes furious. He gave it his all to be with her. After discovering the hard truth of how she took advantage of him he takes the red pill and becomes a PUA or goes MGTOW.

The new guy she plans to monkey branch to, who she overlooked for all those years in her early 20s, is smart enough to realize he is no different and he is being played as well. He prefers someone younger and prettier than her since she's starting to get into her late 20s early 30s. He gets it into his head he'll string her along for a bit, setting up a prenup to protect his assets, since he knows she just wants him for his wallet.

So here is what's interesting about all this. No one wins. The alpha guy she was genuinely attracted to gets dropped because he doesn't come with a ferrari. The money man knows he's being milked for his resources. And the girl in all this? In the end she finds herself alone and thrown to the curb because everyone who interacted with her knows she's just a money grubbing whore.

The whole thing is a comedy of errors and everyone loses.

Women like this are creating a situation where no man will ever want a long term relationship with them in any way shape or form. They have to see that.

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I agree. If you let her chase you the entire time you're with her, she won't even think of acting like this. But still, that only goes to show you that women are just pumped up teenagers in an adult body. Even for their own well being, a man has to consciously make decisions and have the discipline to stick to it. The important factor here is that women are only as good as their society demands them to be. In the past, men had enough reasons to stick to that course. Now though, there is no incentive. Basic bitches like this are dime a dozen. Why would alpha men even care? It's far more profitable to just fuck random hotter girls. Let's say for the sake of argument that she does get an alpha. The minute he commits to her, she will start wondering about branch swinging because if she can get him, surely she can get other men in his league. Maybe even better, right? The minute he becomes soft, she's on his ass. Women in western society these days are damaged. Or, to put it better, they are too spoiled to be taken seriously.

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He’s 50 she’s 45 and a 4; they’ve been together 15 years. Neither are going anywhere tbh as long as she eventually sells up and buys somewhere nice elsewhere.

Nothing to do with society man. She’s just AWALT. It’s made me more self reliant and stronger. I don’t like to look at the negatives. She lives in her own pit of hell that I don’t have to deal with.

This experience has shown me exactly who she is. We’re pretty much done with each other now. It’s a shame as soon we will be the only people left in our family. It is what it is. She has only ever contacted me or my family when she (or more realistically) Chad needed a bail out. It’s nothing new.

Chads ok. Bit of a narcissistic twat and only has conversations on his terms where he looks good but he is just doing his job as Chad tbh. He has internalised that women don’t respect empathy.

Cheers for the kind words. I’ve learned plenty from their relationship (pre and post TRP). And now she’s shown her true colours and effectively cut herself off from the rest of the family. Her choice.

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Dude, women are only as good as their society and family demand them to be. Eventhough this is natural for a woman, the reason we designed society a certain way is to make sure certain things were in check. The fault lies with society in large and your family. Society as it encourages this degeneracy to happen and actively emboldens it by restricting the power of families and parents to do what needs to be done. Family as it always has at least some sort of power however bad the situation is. A lot of the kids can act douchey and abusive to their parents because society has restricted the power of parents to discipline these kids. Women are the same. Society has taken power from where it should have been and gave it to people who were sure to abuse it. It's good to know that you did learn from this mess and became stronger. You can only deal with the cards you're dealt with man. Be realistic in what you can do. Not to limit yourself but so that you can go past that. And when possible, to the best of your extent, be a role model to who you care about and help put an end to this fucking mess.

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when the Manosphere make fun of conservatives, we are referring to those who want society to maintain exactly the way it is now. LGBT is fine apparently, multiple genders are not... 20 years later the "conservatives" will be the liberals today. Multiple genders are fine, something else is not...

And that's why progressives always win. They might not win the seat in your state, in the long run they will always win the idealogical war because the current year conservatives simply don't know what the hell they stand for.

And then there are the cuckservatives who expect men to do 1.0 stuff (chivalry, marry) in a 2.0 world. They'll expect men to fix this mess. They wouldn't even dare think that women are the ones who caused all these (and so any solution has to start with them), much less dare to point out the feminist rebellion. So what they do is to keep denying feminism. Women aren't trying to invade male spaces, it's [cowardly men who are forcing women to fight!](https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2015/12/07/fantasy-land/)

This is why we call them "cuckservatives", you can show them exactly what's going on he will still insist the child is his because he simply cannot imagine women being anything less than the idol he constructed.

A true traditionalist will no doubt have the support of most of the Manosphere (save for certain mgtows or "equality" mras) but this traditionalist will have to be radical enough to cause a revolution that will completely change society and restore patriarchal laws. And this means removing power from women. And this means putting men in authority over the women in their lives. That's why a few years ago a certain politician became President. While the rest of the "trad-cons" are still shouting at men to do 1.0 stuff in a 2.0 world, Trump promised to do the unthinkable (back then at least). There was genuine hope back then that this might actually the guy the Manosphere was waiting for.

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I'm actually surprised she's so open about it. I'm equally surprised she's so naive about it.

She's literally saying that right now she just wants to use her peak attractiveness to sleep around with hot guys, then when she's older and wants money, she wants to find someone less hot but more of a provider.

Well what does she think that guy who is too dull/too busy to date is getting now? And what makes her think that in five years time he's going to say "ok, well I've been studying and building a career while you've been working your way through as many hot guys as you can, I guess now that you've had all your sexy fun and ready to settle for someone boring who can provide for you I'll just give you everything I've worked for just for being you, even though I could find someone younger and who hasn't worked her way around college."

I would rather be with someone less good looking and entitled, who takes relationships more seriously and realises that she needs more than just her looks to get by in life.

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"Men...want to have sex with a bunch of "sluts" then settle down with a pure virgin wife..."

Men are responding to the Sexual Market Place "as is" without trying to change female behavior. It’s women’s sexual behavior and attitude that dictate and determine male response. Notice the woman in the video directly mentioned "Alpha Males" as she has no use for the majority Beta Males who are essentially invisible (to her) in her prime years. She has plans to swing back to Betas later in life and years down the road. In short - the Alphas get her best effort, Betas get her "leftover effort."

The simple fact is that if women set terms, conditions, standards, and requirements for a Beta Male Provider with Alpha Leadership and Protector Traits, men would respond by meeting these conditions IF they have interest in a pure virgin wife who didn’t spend her best/better years passing herself around to numerous men like a Kardashian.

The fact that young women can get sex so easily leads them to believe their dual-mating strategy of Alpha Sex/Beta Chump is workable. It’s only when Beta Males say "No Thanks" to an aging, carousel-rider who packed on 25 pounds over the years versus selecting the stable, loyal, and hardworking Beta Male when she was younger, prettier, chaste, and pure and innocent versus all the emotional baggage of her carousel years.

It's the direct reason these women are frustrated when the Good Guy dismisses them for younger, more chaste women when he is more established and more experienced in life.

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So? It's the men's ignore they ignore the less attractive women and pine for the most attractive ones, these are the women with the highest SMV and can get any man they want, so of course they won't settle for someone who's below their league. It's only natural that an attractive woman will want to be with an attractive man, plus most relationships are serious at a young age regardless of attractiveness.

The beta men will attempt to practice hypergamy by going after women more than 10 years his junior, then whine about how they're "shallow sluts". These "beta males" caused their misfortune with dating by being both shallow and low value, and with age, the only thing they have going for them is their money. These beta males are in fact the ones with the MOST baggage, since their bitterness from being unsuccessful with dating has made them angry, resentful, and evil. So of course their only value would be their money. You don't want to be used for your money? Try being attractive for something else.

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Actually - most men are ignored by both attractive and less attractive women as the majority women are chasing Alpha Males in their younger years.

Most men would easily settle for a reasonably attractive woman on their level. This is easily confirmed by all this data collected from dating sites that clearly state men have less stringent requirements based on looks whereas as women consider nearly 80% of males unattractive.

You might want to check that out...Nothing wrong with attractive people wanting to be with someone attractive. I have no issue with that.

The problem is most women want attractive men very early in life and dismiss good character traits. They want good character later, but have trouble pinning down attractiveness. The women in the video CLEARLY states this dual-mating strategy.

Men who have money in their 30s are not angry for being wanted and admired by women in their 20s - it works out for them. These men are getting what they want - youth, beauty, fertility, and a bit more innocence versus some walled-out, stalled-out 30-year-old. Why would a 30s man be angry at having access to women in their 20s? It's a fair exchange and no one is being cheated - i.e. youth, beauty, and fertility for resources and a life of comfort and protection.

Men are not that stupid - they know perfectly well why a 20-year-old has interest in a financially secure and stable, more experienced man. That's not baggage if you are acutely aware of the situation.

Again - these men are insulted by the 30s women who "suddenly" have interest whereas before these same women had zero use for these men in their prime years.

PRO TIP: If a man is low value in his 20s, he's low value to these same women in his 30s. The issue is that 30s women who wasted their best years can't secure a high value man as easily as before when in their 20s.

Also - you misunderstand hypergmay. A 30s man with resources and money is not marrying up by looking for a 20-year-old woman. He gets her youth, beauty, and relative chastity - assuming she is chaste. That's not hypergamy. It's hypergamy is she's a 20-year-old who is independently wealthy and has extractable resources and solid business connections. THAT'S hypergamy.

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Again - these men are insulted by the 30s women who "suddenly" have interest whereas before these same women had zero use for these men in their prime years. [Emphasis added.]

This is an important point. When a low-SMV man approaches a high-SMV woman she's going to hate it. There is simply too much evidence out there to deny the fact that young women not only tolerate but actively encourage conduct from top-20% men that they would instantly deem "creepy" if done by bottom-80% men. Being approached by someone who has vastly lower SMV than they have (or think they have) triggers a visceral reaction of disgust.

Can they really blame men for having similar reactions when the tables have turned? I think not. Take my friend Peter from high school (all those years ago). Peter was a nice guy, but honestly he wasn't attractive and was as dull as dishwater. No girlfriends for Peter. We lost track of each other after graduation, but for argument's sake let's imagine that he got his act together in his 30s, and at some high school reunion ran into some of the girls who didn't care whether he lived or died when they were at their peak, only now with an STD and couple of thug-spawn. What would/should be Peter's reaction if one of them set her sights on him? I posit that it would be perfectly understandable for him to feel insulted that someone so far below him had the audacity to view herself as being in his league... just like she would have felt had he approached her when she still had season tickets for the carousel.

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Bless your heart - you're trying and I see your effort, but you don't know men very well, their biology, and their nature. Also - for your information as men become older, wiser, and more experienced those "bitchy supermodel cheerleaders" are less appealing and no more exciting than any other woman.

You are downvoted into complete obscurity. This means your words make no sense to other commenters and your points/counterpoints are off-base.

For the record - indicating interest in an attractive woman means NOTHING if there's no response. I'm well aware most men want the attractive women, but many men also understand odds and statistics on success. "Wanting" versus "actually getting" something are two different subjects and as before...men are not stupid. Supermodels and HB8s are not falling all over average men.

Besides most men are average, along with most women being average...so there's virtually someone for EVERYONE.

Men who get dragged in divorce know exactly how and why they allowed looks to override common sense. They know what's going on - to say that a man missed a woman's "character" is a false narrative.

I went through this myself with an HB8 - I know she was above average because she received attention from ALL manner of men on a regular basis. She was toxic and I terminated the relationship. The reason it lasted for a few months is that she was pretty and offered great sex. However these two aspects were not worth the trouble. In less than six months she married some other chump who overlooked her major faults.

Men with money and status know perfectly well why 20s women have interest.

Leonardo DiCaprio dates 20s age models ONLY - he's rich and famous. Without fame and money, he's just some mid-40s creep. The same for Playboy Founder Hugh Hefner - he died in his 90s while married to a woman in her early 30s. She was there for maybe a bit of love, but mostly money. Hefner wasn't stupid. He had a pre-nuptial agreement in place and heavily enforceable on death.

Some say Anna Nicole Smith married that old billionaire for "love." We all know it was for money. His pre-nuptial wasn't as ironclad as Hefner's and was held in litigation for years.

Just as Hefner and all the other less famous men knew pretty women were there for money, they make a decision if a woman's beauty along with her antics are worth the effort. IF not, the hot chick gets dismissed as men with money can get a better replacement.

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You are downvoted into complete obscurity. This means your words make no sense to other commenters and your points/counterpoints are off-base.

Of course this is your sub where your hivemind ideals are upvoted, like if appealing to popularity even matters.

Also - for your information as men become older, wiser, and more experienced those "bitchy supermodel cheerleaders" are less appealing and no more exciting than any other woman.

And then guys like you complain that as a woman grows older, her interest in douchey good looking guys decreases. Hypocrite with no self awareness much?

I went through this myself with an HB8 - I know she was above average because she received attention from ALL manner of men on a regular basis. She was toxic and I terminated the relationship. The reason it lasted for a few months is that she was pretty and offered great sex. However these two aspects were not worth the trouble. In less than six months she married some other chump who overlooked her major faults.

You are the male equivalent of an "alpha widow". You paid attention to a woman purely because of her good looks, she was a bitch, and you suffered the consequences. Now you're on a subreddit criticizing women who did the same thing. Hypocrites hypocrites, can't even see how much of a hypocrite you are.

Fact is no one wants to be told they're loved for superficial reasons, not woman or man, even though it might be true. No woman wants to be told she's only loved for her looks, that will lose her interest in an instant. Same with man, if a woman tells him you love she for his money alone, she won't see any of it.

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Again - I can see you're trying really hard. It's "cute" and you just don't know men.

If you had valid points, people would NOT downvote simply based of popularity. I cross-post to multiple SubReddits and forums in both male and female spaces and am never downvoted. My advice is practical, useful, and actionable for both men AND women, with many men and some women (e.g. Red Pill Women) who offer thanks and appreciation for my life-experience and wisdom. I also advise young male and female family members and close friends. Those who listen to my advice have few, if any, relationship problems and offer their thanks and appreciation.

Wrong again - NOT a "Male Alpha Widow." My current SO and I are happily satisfied and your "assessment" is rendered incorrect by virtue of our mutually beneficial, respectful, and reciprocal relationship.

For your continued education, Alpha Widows have issues dating and selecting good mates based on fantasy experiences from past mates who they "elevated" and pedestalized for no other reason based on "happy memories."

I had no such issue and NEVER had this problem. I view and evaluate each relationship on its own merit, NOT based off some "fantasy woman" and a few good memories. Alpha Widows are useless as mates to good people based on this mental block. This has never been problem for me.

The woman I described was above average in looks, but had excess emotional baggage from her physically abusive, drug-dealer, criminal, and jailbird ex-husband along with emotional issues from her childhood. She was a divorcee with two children with from marriage and a crappy ex-husband who refused child support payments. She was the Alpha Widow as she demonstrated propensity to want to be with her ex-husband and men like him versus the Nice Guy who treated her and her kids very well. Women of this type have no business dating, much less producing children as she was very emotionally and physically abusive toward her son. Her best assets were her looks (with clothes on) and great sex. She was not placed on a pedestal and I was a HUGE upgrade from her past relationships. I accepted ALL her issues and treated her very well – no different than any other woman, but she was disrespectful, disloyal, and disruptive to my life - hence termination of the relationship. More importantly, I moved on to a PRODUCTIVE, HAPPY, and SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP.

Alpha Widows can’t move on, remain stagnant, and compare every person thereafter to their so-called "ideal mate" who treated them horribly and with high disrespect. Again – not a problem for me, but nice try.

My preference for women has NEVER changed. I ALWAYS desire reasonably nice-looking, feminine, physically fit, and COMPATIBLE women consistent with my SMV/RMV and have NEVER dated, mated, or married a woman based on non-attraction. This is a technique many women employ in later years by virtue of "settling" for the less-attractive Beta Provider Chump who is basically a leftover because many former, hot, young, and pretty women have lost their looks and are now looking for a man with integrity and upstanding husband-father characteristics and traits…whereas before she was having sex with numerous men based solely on looks.

Additionally, as men age and gain experience despite still wanting attractive women, they simply lose the youthful interest they had for chasing women. It’s mostly after realizing that women are basic people like everyone else with flaws, imperfections, issues, and hang-ups. In short – the mystery and intrigue surrounding women decreases year after year. Women have to DO more, BE more, and PROVE THEMSELVES worthy of Good Men with age. A younger, prettier woman gets the benefit of the doubt in almost every area of life. Surely, as a woman you see the trend as you age….

Again - review the attached video based on this discussion thread. The 19-year-old woman is practicing classic and easily recognizable dual-mating strategy. She directly mentioned Alpha Males and confidence, while indirectly referencing often-ignored Beta Males as the Backup Plan for much later in life. She will be hugely disappointed when these men refuse her offer after years of being placed in the friend zone or outright lack of acknowledgement or appreciation. It’s a very predictable scenario and is playing out in reduced marriage-rates and men openly ignoring these used-up women. It’s a regular topic of conversation in male-based discussion and forums describing female behavior.

This is the case for most men as many NEVER stop wanting the Good Girl versus the Slut. They simply want the Good Girl to be THEIR PERSONAL SLUT during marriage versus passing herself around and then offering emotional pity and low-effort sex after freely offering their best to past Alphas.

Again – despite presenting well-known examples of men who are with beautiful, young women based on looks, money, and status, you still refuse obvious facts. Celebrity men are a microcosm of regular people who behave in a similar manner.

I have personally seen less attractive men who have money and status with very attractive women. These men have no illusion that if the money/status and lifestyle is gone, the women will quickly move on to other men. Again – you don’t know men. Men with money and status understand perfectly well the arrangement that includes looks, enthusiastic sex, and youth for resources and a comfortable, stable life. It’s been the standard arrangement for years. Melania is not married to Donald Trump based solely on personality and SMV (attractiveness).

I could post your statements and my responses to TRP, RPW, and other forums, and many of those folks will easily confirm my statements while you will be viewed with disregard and rebuke.

Honestly – in a live debate or discussion, you would be easily defeated based on your statements.

You can continue discussion, but I will basically refute your response with ACTUAL life-experience, personal observations, and easily accessible statistics. You make it easy.

"I only debate my equals, all others I teach." -John Henrik Clarke

The lesson is concluded…for now.

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I can see what you’re trying to do, and on a very surface level you almost seem like you’re making valid arguments. But you’re way off.

So? It's the young men's fault they ignore the less attractive women and pine for the most attractive ones, these are the women with the highest SMV and can get any man they want, so of course they won't settle for someone who's below their league.

Wrong. Men are more than willing to date women whose looks are on par or are lower than their own. It is women, the gatekeepers of sex, who are the ones unwilling to do this. Social media and dating apps have created a dating climate where almost all women are exclusively going for the top guys. Most girls are fucking guys 2 or 3 or 4 points above them on the looks scale. Essentially all girls are going for guys who are 8s or better, and anyone lower than that gets nothing. When sexual liberation happened, men thought it would be this great thing, where everybody would get more sex. But actually it had the opposite effect where less guys than ever get sex, and it’s an abundance of riches for the lucky few men that win the genetic lottery. You must remember, women are the selectors, they choose who gets sex, so do not come in here and blame “young men” who are only going after the hotties. That’s not how this game works at all.

It's only natural that an attractive woman will want to be with an attractive man,

Attractive people want to be with attractive people, this is correct. But ALL women think they are 8s or higher, and they all think they deserve Chad thundercock, Tyrone BeeBeeCee, and Christian Grey. They get pumped and dumped by any of those three, and it alpha widows them. Permanently solidifying their delusion that they can get a guy way out of their league, also solidifying the fact that they’ll never be happy with a guy who isn’t on that level.

plus most relationships are not serious at a young age regardless of attractiveness.

This is because women these days wish to “experience life” aka ride the cock carousel. Plenty of men would be more than willing to be serious, but unfortunately women seem to think it’s okay to be dating five guys at once and it’s not cheating because she never told any of them that they were exclusive. When men see this type of behaviour happening en mass, is it any wonder that they no longer take women seriously?

When older, the beta men will attempt to practice hypergamy by going after women more than 10 years his junior, then whine about how they're "shallow sluts".

This isn’t hypergamy. Hypergamy is the biologically ingrained instinct within females to always seek out the better deal. Men are not hypergamous, atleast not to the extent women are. Men date down, up, and across. Women are the ones that date almost exclusively up.

As for your fairytale about Beta men complaining about “shallow sluts”, I call bullshit. Men who had low SMV in their twenties, and worked hard to raise their smv in their thirties, are now reaping the benefits of that work by dating girls ten years younger. These guys understand they are dating “shallow sluts” and they don’t care. Guys are not complaining about this. This sounds like some bullshit a woman would make up. You’re talking out of your ass.

These "beta males" caused their misfortune with dating by being both shallow and low value, and with age, the only thing they have going for them is their money.

Wrong. These beta males built themselves up to become high SMV and now have their pick of the litter. Why would they choose to settle down and marry an old used up roastie whose been riding the cock carousel for 10 years when they can snatch up a 19 year old, who still has her youth and beauty and might not have even been alpha widowed yet?

These beta males are in fact the ones with the MOST baggage, since their bitterness from being unsuccessful with dating has made them angry, resentful, and evil. So of course their only value would be their money. You don't want to be used for your money? Try being attractive for something else.

In some cases this is sort of true. I wouldn’t say they have the most baggage, that award goes to women who ride the cock carousel. But the thirties are when the low SMV man gets his revenge if he’s managed to build himself up in his twenties. Now all the girls who completely ignored him and rejected him are hitting the wall, meanwhile he’s just hitting his peak. He now gets to reject those girls who used to reject him, and instead pump and dump young sluts who are just starting their ride on the cock carousel.

As for “being attractive for something other than money” women select for three things: looks, status, and wealth. Most guys figure this out eventually, and the guys who lost the genetic lottery know they are gona have to get wealthy to get the girls they want. Women are the shallow ones. Men simply become what it is women want.

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Everything about that argument is wrong.

How I see it is that only a very high SMV man can fuck 50 women, and even then he still has to work for it. Whereas any woman can fuck 50 guys with no work at all. There are plenty of fat ugly unemployed female sluts. But there is no such thing as a fat ugly unemployed male stud.

The next aspect of it is the psychological ramifications of promiscuity are very different for men than it is for women. High partner count does not effect a males ability to pair bond. But just two partners has a major effect on a woman’s ability to pair bond.

I’ve heard that in terms of the psychological effect it’s 20x greater on women than men. So a woman with 5 partners is equivalent to a man with 100 partners.

And just at the very most basic:Men and women are different and cannot be compared or judged as equals. It’s a false equivalency.

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Title	[19] Crocodile Cuckdee: Thots Down Under
Author	JosephBancor
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Date	May 13, 2018 6:05 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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