So I know by the way that I’ve worded the title that I probably sound like a major asshole. But I’d like for everyone to try to hear me out first. I’ve been married to my wife for 2 years now. It’s been a great marriage. I do truly love her. I have a high ranking job at a pretty large company and I make a good bit of money. When we got married we decided that my wife didn’t need to work if she didn’t want to, that she could just stay at home if she would like. We came to the agreement that she’d do 70-80% of the chores if she stayed at home. We do not have kids so she literally has nothing else to really do. She had side projects and crafts that she sold so we also figured that’d give her more time to work on that and grow it. As she does not work we do have separate bank accounts. I like to spoil her so I do give her a fair stipend each week to spend it however she pleases. I give her more to spend than I actually spend on myself.
Now I have realized that I may need to take it away from her. The first year or so of being married everything was going to plan. She was cleaning a lot around the house and was building her craft business. In the last year things have declined tremendously. Her craft business is completely closed. She hasn’t worked on that in months. Not only that but chores are hardly getting done around the house. I’ll come home most days to a dirty house and she will be there playing with the new items and clothes that she purchased that day. I feel like I’m doing all of the work while she is just sitting back and having fun. The stuff she buys is really only for her and nothing that is ever even useful. She has showed no interests of looking for any type of job or hobby to pursue. All she continues to do is go out with friends and blow her money. Recently I realized that I had enough of this and needed to speak to her about it.
First I tried to start of by being respectful. I asked if everything is okay with her. She assured me that it was and that she was a super happy. I then tried to nicely tell her that I noticed that the house had been dirtier recently. She shrugged and acted like it was nothing. I then asked her what she does all day. She started to get upset with me questioning her. I told her that it looks like all she does now is spend the money that I give her on worthless things. She started tearing up and yelling more. I finally told her that if she doesn’t start earning it then I’m going to have to cut her stipends down. She claimed that I didn’t have the right to take her money away. I told her that I did because it was my money that I earned. Ever since then she hasn’t said one word to me. What should I do now? I don’t feel like I’m in the wrong honestly, but I’d like to still fix things between us.
Just to clarify I used to give her 65 % of what I brought in. Now I’m giving her 50%.
TL;DR - I threatened to take my wife’s stipend away because she hasn’t held up her end of the deal. It’s caused a fight between us.
[–]Downtowndex7210 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do you care if she speaks to you?
Women understand by what you do, not what you say. Threatening doesn’t work. Just tell her it’s ending. Let it be her mission to figure out how to restore it.
[–]hopeunseen13 points14 points15 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol. You set this up yourself.
No you didn't. You talked about it casually once and she was open to the idea. You never defined what that would actually look like, and so she had one picture in her mind and you had another.
I'm assuming that because you're defending yourself by bringing this up, you're kinda frustrated and bitter about this. Giving her more than you just means you've placed her on a pedestal and treat her as more valuable as yourself.
Okay - This is the all important question: WHY? WHAT CAUSED THIS?
Is she happy and fulfilled staying at home by herself all day, with no significant purpose or sense of accomplishment or identity? Most people I know would likely get depressed. She's bored out of her mind, so she spends her money on clothes and useless crap.
You're bitter because she isn't showering you with praise, gratitude and gifts. She's bitter because you've put her into this position and she doesn't bother buying you anything or doing anything for you because you've created a codependent relationship in which you do all the providing. Plus in her mind, if you wanted something - You'd go out and buy it for yourself. It's all your money anyways.
Sounds like the telltale signs of someone who is lonely and depressed, or just plain bored. She doesn't get tingles from you, so she seeks excitement from clothes, friends & shopping.
All she continues to do is try to escape the feeling of isolation, boredom & uselessness by distracting herself with fun & seeking out support & community.
And then... You went full retard.
There is just too much stupid here to easily break down, but I've been there and done similar autist things.
Rule #1 - Don't ask a girl what is wrong... She doesn't want to have to ask you to fix it, she wants you to fix it without even asking. If she needs to talk about it, she'll come to you. Asking a woman what is wrong is like poking a cranky bear with a stick. Nobody wins.
Rule #2 - Don't EVER try to talk to your girl and pretend to care about her with an ulterior motive. You asked her what was wrong... She says nothing. You then proceed to word vomit all the things that are bothering you and all the ways she is letting you down, in a super passive aggressive, backhanded way that makes her feel like shit. Now not only does she feel like crap, she feels like you don't care about her at all - The only reason you asked how she was doing is because you wanted something out of her.
So you got angry, and decided to talk down to her like a 3 year old. Did you really expect that to go well?
In general, when your woman is mad, she will say all sorts of things that don't make logical sense. They don't think and speak rationally so much as emotionally. Also, she probably thinks you guys are a team since, you know... You're married. Therefore in her mind, you don't get 100% say over what happens to the money.
Then you burst her bubble, and communicate that in fact you guys are NOT a team, she doesn't get any say in the money. Which makes her question everything about you two as a couple. If you're not a team, who are you? And lately she hasn't even been getting those tingles from you anymore. Every time you're around you're just grumpy and butt hurt that the house isn't clean and she sits around and spends money while you're working hard to provide and why can't she just APPRECIATE everything you do for her?
Meanwhile, she doesn't give a damn about the money. She just wants a MAN who will take her, ravish her, have fun with her, take her on adventures, and give her FEELZ.
Yes, if you can't pay for rent, THEN she'll care about the money. But just because you cover the finances doesn't mean she'll be attracted to you or appreciative of you.
Her Daddy paid for her rent and clothes and allowance when she was growing up, but that didn't mean she was attracted to him.
You've placed yourself in the same role as her Dad, including threatening to cut off her allowance - and yet you're expecting her to treat you like a lover?
I don't have a clue what all the answers are for you - But these are the biggest issues. Honestly I went through the EXACT same situation with my wife (She was going to volunteer at church, then she was going to start a business... then nothing. Never got a job, didn't cook, just sat on instagram and slept until 1pm every day)
In hindsight, I created these problems by placing her in that environment, failing to lead and clearly define our roles + adjusting as necessary, and placing ALL the focus on making money. Honestly, a successful relationship is like 10% money. Girls can be 100% horny for the penniless bass player in the crappy grunge rock band - The money isn't nearly as important to them as the other things. So work on the other stuff first. Give her FEELZ.
And please, once you figure this out, share an update and let us know what you learned.
[–]checka_fred2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This breakdown just gave me the tingles. OP prob will never read it tho 😂
[–]Rifleshoot6 points7 points8 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What an idiot. He probably skimmed a little bit of TRP, decided that he needed to “up the alpha” and went Rambo. The fact that he doesn’t have the frame to make such an ultimatum without running to the internet for advice speaks volumes on his sense of frame.
[–]JameisBong3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Hysterical bonding, pregnancy and he'll be back here in no time.
[–]Tyred_BiggumsDon't let these gypsy women fool you10 points11 points12 points (0 children) | Copy Link
No.
[–]Redrover8572 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
So you basically demoted your wife to a live in maid and are now wondering why she’s not liking the set up? Good thing I saw this, I was thinking about paying my wife to do all the childcare work around the house. I’m sure she would love it.
[–]business---travel1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why should we help this guy?
He can't even help himself...
[–]Childe-0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah, no kids. He can play it as hard as he likes 🤭
[–]bob--man-2 points-1 points0 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What is with these TRP crossposts to MRP lately?
OP, why do you care about this guy? Why share his post here?
[–]Cam_Winston21-1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
I stopped at the title.