Pushing off when she initiates?

drjamesstone · 2018-01-04T14:49:57+00:00

First pitch: opportunity for caveman fucking (last night). Swing and a miss.

Second pitch: She makes a move and you decide you're on a sexual diet and go to the gym. Swing and a miss, the count is 0 and 2

Third pitch: You chose to tell her how the night should go rather than fuck her and send her out with friends still dripping from this morning...swing and a miss, she struck him out....

Do more, say less. Initiate always and follow through every time.

snatch_haggis · 2018-01-04T15:59:09+00:00

If a 4 year old wants to make their own breakfast, I know I'm gonna end up cleaning up a huge mess and they'll probably burn a waffle or two. I don't say a word about it, because they're moving in the right direction - I just praise 'em and clean up the mess later.

Most would say never turn her down, just ease her slowly in the right direction by leading in bed. When she's begging for it every night because you're giving her endless tingles in every department, then you're in a better position to talk about what you want and how.

That said, a lot of folks seem to have went through a point where they ended up overtly refusing starfish. It's debatable whether it did that much good - it almost always ends in tears and gives her a lot of anxiety around initiating, resulting in an overall decline for awhile.

I said "I deserve better sex than this", a few months ago. She cried a lot and stopped initiating for a month, and it didn't really change things much. Made a lot more progress later with just saying what I wanted in the moment and vocalizing in bed.

I rubbed her pussy a little then told her I want her to stay horny all day then come to bed tonite in a little black teddy that I love

Even if you got a yes to that in the moment her solipsism means that yes is the same thing as doing it right then, and has nothing to do with whether it actually happens later.

Don't be surprised if other things come up and she ends up ~~pretending~~ swearing that conversation never happened. Facts and oaths are not tingles and feels.

Senor_Martillo · 2018-01-05T14:19:31+00:00

Ok so here's what happened: double starfish.

She did in fact decline to wear the lingerie I had requested, but i fucked her regardless. Pretty much starfish. Tagged it again this morning to slightly better response, but still recognizable as sea-life. Maybe more like a jelly fish.

So my little experiment concludes in fundamental agreement with the majority of comments: if she initiates, I should serve it up good and hard. It's the best window to kinky enthusiastic sex I'm likely to see. There may be scope for tactics like I tried once the rope has been drawn tight, but I'm not there yet.

Back to the gym, back to the sidebar. Peace out, fuckers.

mrpthrowa · 2018-01-04T14:58:06+00:00

You are entirely in her frame. So much so you want to drag us into it.

Senor_Martillo · 2018-01-04T15:10:38+00:00

Why not fuck her in the morning and at night?

Also, you declined sex after a soft no because of ~~starfish~~ possible starfish? She's training you better than you are her.

bogeyd6 · 2018-01-04T20:39:16+00:00

Thanks for giving me some insight. I have been trying to write a post about turning her down for sex. How you can do it strategically and what that can mean for you.

BostonBrakeJob · 2018-01-04T21:37:06+00:00

After reading the post, I was thinking you probably should've took the morning sex and then initiated that night for caveman.

But after reading your replies in the comment section I'm starting to change my mind.

You anticipated starfish, didn't want it like that, and declined.
(Overtly) You told her what to wear to bed tonight/(Covertly) You told her to step her game up
Then you leave the room to start your morning routine, leaving her and her hamster aaaaall alone to figure out what just happend.
Your replies show a genuine OI for what happens tonight.

You're trying something out. It may or may not work, but if it doesn't I'm not getting the impression that you'll be back on here tonight crying about it. I like how you played it and would be interested to see how it plays out, both short and long term for you.

It's your experiment, run it how you'd like. But I'd suggest building the tension if you guys talk throughout the day. Not necessarily go out of your way to send a text or call her, but if she calls keep it playful and lay on the inuendos. OYS, you want a porn scene session tonight, keep conveying that to her. And keep the thought in her mind.

screechhater · 2018-01-05T02:33:49+00:00

Man I love this game too. She goes out with friends who talk about getting it up with their husbands by reading 50 Shades .... SO tells me cause she doesn’t have input they all grill her. She states “I have a caged animal at home”

She generally comes home, walks to my side of the bed strips down and has her way with me.

I generally tell her go out nightly with your friends....

UEMcGill · 2018-01-04T15:10:21+00:00

If you read Kay's book you'll remember, 70% of sex is ok; and that's ok.

Why didn't you fuck her in the morning and tell her to meet you in the bed with the naughty-wear?

You should have fucked her. She likely saw it as some sort of rejection and now she's sitting there wondering "Why the fuck does he want coffee and not pussy?" She doesn't see it as you denying her dick, but as you rejecting her gift.

Fuck because you want to.

Continue to improve attraction.

Dare I say, read the Sex God Method, when you are ready.?

BluepillProfessor · 2018-01-05T04:08:29+00:00

“ told her I want her to stay horny all day then come to bed tonite in a little black teddy that I love. It pushes her tits up just perfectly and has a nice little thong string “

This sort of stuff makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit. It reeks of thirsty beta and it sounds like you are pedestalising her. Quit that shit. Unless your wife is a HB10 do not treat her like one. Even if she is treat her like a HB7, commandments of poon, ignore her beauty. She senses your neediness. Doesn’t matter if you are in a LTR or spinning plates, talking about a woman in this tone is gross. I am betting she is not saying to her friends tonight, “he has this pair of underpants and when he wears them it makes his bulge look so big and I get so horny.” You are still getting nos, soft or hard nos are a sign that you are well short of your goal. So next time you are feeling like a thirsty beta, just think “what would a cave man do?” instead of writing long ass love letters on the internet.

redandswollen · 2018-01-04T15:45:58+00:00

With life, work, kids, gym, etc, I'm getting to the point where I don't want to fuck everyday. I like quality over quantity.

So to answer your question: there's no right answer. I like your experiment-- see if you can let the sexual tension build up, but be aware that her horniness likely has nothing to do with her. You can plant seeds, make yourself attractive, kino, etc, but be prepared for it to not work.

I usually take the policy of never turning down sex and I let kinky sex naturally happen. But my wife has always liked sex so I don't have that problem.

[deleted] · 2018-01-04T18:24:14+00:00

I see a massive covert contract here,

I think you're MRPing for the marriage, not for you.

You willing to blow it all to shit and cut the rope if she doesn't fall pussy first into your whore wife box?

This is a "she" post, and if you're watching the rope pay out behind the boat, then you're facing the wrong direction. Your attention should be on where you're going, not if the lifeboat is still attached.

Thats a long time for "sexual tension" to exist, especially if starfish is still on the table. That means she doesn't dread losing you, so her "A" game does not come out. Wonder why that is?

After a GNO, the best thing you can do is alpha caveman her, really bring a contrast between the passive-aggressive moaning of unhappy women, and the unbridled lust of a man who NEEDS to fuck you now.. to the point where she has no choice... she's going to get fucked.

red-sfpplus · 2018-01-04T17:39:54+00:00

I want her to stay horny all day

LMFAO. Not thinking about you she will not be.

Finger fucking her phone on FB, IG and everything else will make her wetter than your demands and beta bullshit.

She will come home either stoked to be married to someone she loves and who isn't a fuckup, or hating men in general.

Hating men in general. She married to another fuck up.

Happy hunting

I do not think you understand what this means.

mountainbiker178 · 2018-01-04T14:51:06+00:00

Ok. How did she respond after you said that? Also, what kind of sex could she be imagining will happen tonight? In other words, do you (honestly) fuck her good? Do you fuck her like it's your last time? Have you read the Sex God Method???

Title	Pushing off when she initiates?
Author	Senor_Martillo
Upvotes	8
Comments	35
Date	January 4, 2018 2:22 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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