Does fighting or martial arts help with frame?

sjswander94 · 2019-06-28T13:16:00+00:00

Bjj in particular can be really humbling I wish I stuck with it. When your getting checked unconscious by a 16 year old who’s half your size on the daily it really kills your ego.

CainPrice · 2019-06-28T15:00:39+00:00

I do BJJ because I suck at it.

I'm a skinny guy. Much stronger than I look, plus I'm fast, flexible, and have amazing endurance, but still a skinny guy. I'm uncoordinated, my sense of balance is bad, and my body awareness is terrible. That's why I joined the track team in high school instead of doing a real sport and why I suck at dancing. These weak points also make me suck at martial arts. I'm never aware enough of where my arms and head are, and I have a hard time noticing those openings in someone else.

People who started BJJ after I did regularly kick my ass. As do weak teenage kids who've been doing it a long time. I've come a long way, but it's definitely not the kind of activity that comes naturally to me. Put me in front of a musical instrument or a pile of cooking ingredients or ask me to write a short story? Train for a medium distance race? Easy. Do squats? Easy. Martial arts? Hard as shit.

But doing something that hits on your weak points, that you consistently fail at and have to work hard at just to be kind of below average? Humbling yourself like that? Among a group of guys who encourage you regardless and notice progress in you that you haven't noticed? It's amazing. It makes you think about things differently as you learn to pay attention in ways that haven't come naturally to you for most of your life.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-06-28T14:35:06+00:00

It's going to be the same as a lot of things a man can pursue. It's not about the act it self, it's about your mindset and motivation in doing it.

If a guy does it, because he truly believes he is good at something and wants to push himself, reach his potential and realise his potential, he has a more 'alpha' mindset. If he knows it'll be challenging, there will obstacles, hurdles, but an inherent part of him says 'fuck it, I know I will be good and want to keep going' for HIMSELF...not women, not approval, not validation, but for himself.

If a guy does it because he wants to be like others, wants women to be attracted, wants validation, is following other's suggestions etc...then he's beta. No improvement in his fighting ability will make him any less beta. He is following someone else's frame.

teveza11 · 2019-06-28T13:17:24+00:00

I think so.

Boxing worked for me. You gain confidence and fearlessness.

Fighting also. I have gotten into more fights than 95% of other guys. Hitting someone with a hard punch releases some endorphins and makes you feel like a badass.

With that said, there are plenty of MMA fighters and boxers who are still blue pilled idiots.

I know an MMA guy who has a shit record, but because of the fact that he is a violent fighter, he always has hot girls following him around. The ability to inflict violence is a very attractive trait in a man. He's still a wimp in his LTR though, he cries and everything else.

DubbleFUPAwitCheez · 2019-06-28T16:15:33+00:00

I can't talk on fighting specifically but as a football lineman one of the things I noticed from smashing into 300+ lbs guys full force over and over is you stop flinching. Which means your body language is always strong and no fear of getting hit means no fear of conflict. I imagine there's something similar to gain from combat sports.

maverick9759 · 2019-06-28T19:51:49+00:00

I train MMA. Fuck yeah. When you walk into a room knowing you can kill 99% of the men in there with your bare hands if the need be nothing can shake your frame, and if the people in the room know about it .. ahaha you'll experience a big change. Also I once randomly posted a clip from training session on insta which made me realize (more like remind ) that chicks dig men who are capable of violence. Just don't go over board and get brain damage. Training to stay in top notch shape with a few light sparring sessions every week won't hurt you. Remember, sparring is meant to get a feel for your reach, it's to understand distances and that's it. No need to get hit hard.

Alewyz · 2019-06-28T13:42:57+00:00

Yes, it’s easy to remain calm in ridiculous situations when the alternative is someone trying to choke, punch, kick, throw, or generally break you.

wanderer779 · 2019-06-28T16:48:06+00:00

It helps in several different ways. I don't know that it really works for self defense, at least not where I'm at cause people will just shoot you. If you live in a place like that then taking martial arts and thinking you can whip everyone would be a mistake that could get you killed. But most people actually end up becoming more chill and humble. Martial arts kinda lets you know where you stand; there's no reason to go around testing it cause you already know that you can beat some people and some people can beat you and that's how it's always going to be.

SirAttackHelicopter · 2019-06-28T17:23:15+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFphNr0FK-0

TL:DR; absolutely 110%.

SupremeBBC · 2019-06-28T18:21:25+00:00

I train in muay thai, and have a decent amateur record. I would definitely agree that it helps with frame because much like lifting, it's a direct improvement of the self that is tangible. I noticed that I just generally give less fucks about problems or issues in my life that are out of my control.

SpinPlates · 2019-06-28T22:02:27+00:00

Absolutely. Any kind of physical training humbles you and frames you properly.

The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you?re a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.

Henry Rollins

Bedtimeshine · 2019-06-28T19:10:15+00:00

There’s no frame like knowing you ain’t worried about too much because you can handle yourself

BlueIowa · 2019-06-28T20:38:12+00:00

It keeps you calm during situations that may make your adrenaline spike. Before MMA, if I was in a confrontational situation I would be almost shaking from the adrenaline. Now that I fight in a gym and hit and get hit regularly, I feel much more calm and always ready for a fight. It increased my confidence that I'll know what to do if that happens. I feel less worried about a jealous boyfriend suddenly appearing while day gaming too.

And oh yea, it got me shredded.

Aymane221 · 2019-06-29T01:39:31+00:00

Don’t do bjj fucks up your ears which will Lower your smv. If You think women give a fuck about if you can fight they don’t at all

TigerTamingSword · 2019-06-29T02:27:09+00:00

Other comments covered most of the important aspects of your question, but just to thrown in my .25 cent: don't do it just to improve your SMV. You need to have a proclivity towards fighting and everything that comes with it, which includes getting hit and hurt. There are other physical activities that will give you confindence and strength, like rock climbing or swimming. Find something that you truly enjoy.

acp_rdit · 2019-06-28T13:59:08+00:00

Whatever martial arts you choose make sure you do contact fighting and not just points or wrestling. Nothing really trains you for taking punches other than taking punches.

Title	Does fighting or martial arts help with frame?
Author	ATRP2019
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Date	June 28, 2019 1:09 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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