How the hell do you beat this depression???

Conor_Niggregor · 2017-12-18T21:44:06+00:00

I'm writing you a prescription for prostitutes, weed, test proprianate, and a trip to Brazil or Ukraine.

Problem solved.

postreformedpua · 2017-12-18T21:58:24+00:00

I feel like there is something intrinsically wrong with me which will destine me to be alone forever, which objective facts point out is the case.

I would stick with the therapy. You are definitely showing signs of actual clinical depression, the above being very clear example of catastrophic thinking. Have you tries CBT? I've read it can help with the negative self talk (of which I still occasionally have but it's much better).

If you are not meditating get on that right now. I think you need to distance yourself from these perceived problems and meditation can give you a sweet release from your ego and thus, your problems.

Your state of mind is clearly the only thing holding you back, fixing it would help you with women, but really at this point fuck worrying about that. You need to get your mental frame sorted as a priority FOR YOU. You need to realise women are not the answer, they won't bring you happiness, yes they can be fun but they are also a huge headache most of the time. Heal yourself first, fix your mental frame because everything else in your life hangs off that.

Oh and stop fucking around with your brain chemistry looking for a silver bullet.

MattyAnon · 2017-12-19T01:12:12+00:00

I'm fit and tall

fit, tall and rich is MORE than enough, even if your face looks like an inside-out monkey's ass.

I feel like there is something intrinsically wrong with me which will destine me to be alone forever

There isn't. What's happened is you have internalised "alone" as part of your identity, and then when you try and change this you face an existential crisis, because "this isn't me", so you self-sabotage.

GreenPiller · 2017-12-18T22:54:30+00:00

I'm a millionaire

Wat? Do you know how many bitches in third world countries would lick your balls in the spot? And not even ugly prostitutes I mean literal goddesses, what the fuck man. I mean even if you still want to kill yourself at least pass some knowledge on how t make those big bucks or write a post or something

bluepillcarl · 2017-12-18T23:54:08+00:00

When I read this I feel like we are practically the same person.

I had a financial research company and made a lot of money. Married my college sweetheart. Years later she stopped sleeping with me, I felt worthless. I became severely depressed. I got divorced. I lost my business/income. Girls would tell me I'm good looking but I wasn't getting any action at all. I'd go to the gym all the time. I'd struggle with alcohol and cocaine because that was the environment I kept myself around strippers.

A few things definitely help. One thing that is definitely getting me through it is going to the gym and going hiking in the mountains.

What doesn't help is alcohol. I'll turn to it on occasion to make the pain subside but in the end I just get angry. I obsess over something that I can't have. Instead I should be focusing on all the things that I do have.

Realize you aren't alone, what you are feeling is kind of normal. You may not be approaching enough. Your attitude/expectations might be hindering your ability to attract people. You've only been single for a year, embrace it.

kranos33 · 2017-12-19T01:15:12+00:00

Let me take a stab at this:

You seem depressed. You need to start having positive interactions with other people (both guys and girls). Since you have money, do this:

Sign up for co-ed soccer/volleyball/whatever sport you like. At least 2 days a week, your evenings should be sport.
Sign up for a dance class. (your therapist is right on this one).
Make it a point to do some activity every week (happy hour with friends), or go see a new gallery, etc...

So, 4 days every week you should have some positive interactions within group setting with other people. The goals are clear, (winn the soccer/volleyball game, get better at dancing, etc).

Don't have expectations on meeting girls/dating, as this will kill your motivation to enjoy these sports/activities. Go there just for the activities. Don't try to pick up women there, but be friendly to them, and try to get to know the people on your team(s) as human beings.
Over time, you will find that your social circle will enlarge. Some of these folks will organize happy hours/parties, etc....

Try mushrooms, (start at low dose). They are the best to alleviate your mood. Kettamine since to actually have good effects on depression as well. Stay away from LSD (way too potent in your state), or Molly, or pot and edibles. They will make your condition worse.

And definitely don't do steriods. Not at this state. If you are fit already, adding 10lbs of muscle will do jack shit with women. You need to work on your "I am not worthy state", by starting to have positive interactions (with no expectations), with other girls in group/activity settings. When people start wanting to hang out with you, and do things with you, it will give you a positive boost to your self esteem.

Aslo, stay way from online dating/tinder/etc.... it is mostly trash, and the setting is the worst to a man's self esteem.

BrodinsOats · 2017-12-18T22:55:34+00:00

What was your childhood like?

What are your day-to-day interactions with other people like? What's your social life like?

DadOnDabs · 2017-12-18T22:49:41+00:00

I'm gonna take a different approach to this then most of the comments you will get. Maybe what you need is nothing.

Read into some Buddhism and Doaism. They argue that everything you say you have is what corrupts people to the core. They also argue that "no-thing" can fill the void that exists in you. Only you yourself can fill that void. This is done through meditation and practice of mindfulness.

Try this; go into the woods with as little as possible. If it's cold where you live a tent and a sleeping bag and some water. Stay in the woods and meditate until you have an epiphany. At this point you have nothing else to lose.

empatheticapathetic · 2017-12-19T06:12:30+00:00

Dopamine and serotonin management. Something is off.

You have nothing to work towards and are still holding on to some blue pill values. Validation from women is the only thing left so it's driving you mad.

Assuming you're not a troll.

batfish55 · 2017-12-19T09:38:22+00:00

Magic Mushrooms. Take a full dose, about half an eighth, and you'll be mellow as fuck for like a month. Have a sitter your first time though. You really won't need him, but you'll feel better if he's there.

chachaChad · 2017-12-18T22:04:32+00:00

DMT-5-MeO

Are you already playing with that stuff? If so, that's your problem.

bouncebby · 2017-12-19T04:17:35+00:00

Do you have any passions? Does your life have a purpose?

If not, maybe thats a place to start.

DonnySequoiaBuddz707 · 2017-12-19T00:08:53+00:00

Inner child meditation? Perhaps an extremely honest approach at therapy? Is the voice repeating in your head making you feel worthless yours or a relatives? Damn my man, a sad millionaire? Spiritual fulfilment perhaps? Just food for thought...

greatslyfer · 2017-12-19T00:43:32+00:00

"I'm a millionaire, doesn't help."

Well, I'm not even close to it, but as a guy who thought that earning money as an adult and being able to buy just random shit in stores and buy whatever food I want cause of my cravings would just make me happy and shut me up when I would have all these deep inner emotional/mental problems such as anxiety and depression, money doesn't help with shit.

You're just you, shitty old you, that now can just buy stuff to gain a short-term spike of joy, but that's it, it never cures you or brings you to that ethereal place of happiness.

I hate this shit, why does life have to be so hard.

And dude, taking steroids does not help with the depression or any bad emotional state, don't know why you're taking that route. Being jacked is just superficial, it's great but does nothing for fixing your emotional problems and things of that nature.

king_of_red_alphas · 2017-12-19T03:14:19+00:00

I wish I had answers for you. If I did I wouldn’t feel so close to what you described.

My problem, personally is that I’ve developed a terrible nihilism and cynicism, and to be honest I feel TRP has contributed significantly to this.

The other thing I feel I’ve been woefully underestimating are the lingering and subtle but very real effects of binge drinking.

I used to think the effects begun when I was drunk (good) and ended when I had a hangover (bad).

However, After many years I’m starting to recognize my waves of anxiety and depression seem to be directly related to my drinking patterns.

Basically, if I drink enough to get a “buzz” I’m able to recover. If I drink enough to get a hangover, it’s almost as if my brain is having to reconstitute itself for weeks before I start to feel ok with life again.

The hard part is, I have a lot of internal self hatred toward myself. Especially my appearance. I feel like life is just a constant reminder of how sub-par I am in the facial aesthetics department, when in reality I’m just being self absorbed.

Still, this makes socializing extremely painful for me and I end up isolating myself. And worse, the only time I go out there MUST be alcohol otherwise I panic and feel totally awkward.

While I can go to the gym no problem, things that require interaction (like BJJ or dance classes) are completely panic inducing to me.

If course, I also get anxiety after being stuck indoors for days at a time, so I can’t just avoid the world.

I’m thinking of just trying to cut out all alcohol and try to give my meds a chance to do their job.

EsteraMC · 2017-12-19T03:41:46+00:00

It sounds like it's because you're just trying to follow societal standards laid out for you, and because you're trying to over compensate for the lack of success with women. Everything that you have is what red pillers should be striving for, but you're doing it for all the wrong reasons. It should all be for yourself, NOT for others. A lack of purpose is a big underlying issue, and you'll go through all of life depressed and without fulfillment because of it. Focus on yourself, and don't let a being alone define you.

After all of that, learning and using game will be much much easier since you're not coming at it from a value leeching attitude. Best of luck.

Nodeal_reddit · 2017-12-19T04:42:59+00:00

Sorry you are feeling this way.
I do Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and I see posts all the time at r/bjj about how it helps people manage their depression and anxiety. Maybe try that if there are options near you. Or maybe Sambo might be more readily available there. Basically anything where you are physically and mentally challenged. It’s hard to think about your problems when some guy is literally trying to choke you to death. Plus, It’s a blast.

mmerijn · 2017-12-19T05:38:26+00:00

Meditation is a good one, but not enough. You also need to find something worth it in life. Just go out there and try to find something to do that is not as bad as whatever else you could be doing (including nothing). You really have to go out there and find it, because it is not coming to you on its own that is for sure.

BeastM8 · 2017-12-19T06:15:52+00:00

You need to fight someone. Feel a life or death experience

11-Eleven-11 · 2017-12-19T06:57:19+00:00

People might hate this suggestion but youve tried everything and there seems to be no long term fix. You can put a band aid on it but it will come back.

Have you tried finding God? The Bible says that only God can fill the hole in your heart. I personally do not know a lot of christians who are depressed in their adult life for more than a few weeks unless some serious shit is happening in their lives. Just a thought.

[deleted] · 2017-12-19T09:17:33+00:00

AskTRP isn't a therapist, we're just dudes pondering the nature of women, giving each other lifting and nutrition tips and occasionally shitposting. So why don't you go and have whatever's loose up there screwed back tightly and you can come back later and we'll all have a good time?

Best of luck buddy.

bickisnotmyname · 2017-12-19T11:06:17+00:00

Mate, from the depth of my heart to yours, this isn’t the best place to be asking questions like this. No internet random person can help.

All the therapy in the world can only lead you on the right path, but it is your path to walk down. No one can walk it for you. If you’ve tried SSRIs and other meds to the extent of their capability, then the issue isn’t chemical which helps to understand the issue.

Have you ever suffered any substantial traumatic event? Childhood abuse? Physical abuse? Is there any event in your past that could explain your depression? If not, then the possibility is that you lack a direction in life. Do you feel like you exist, without much purpose?

MRPFuckMe1 · 2017-12-19T12:01:14+00:00

Your problem is of a spiritual nature.

Women are your purpose. Find another purpose.

You think superficial achievements will soothe you: getting bigger with roids, having money, sex.

The answer to every question is in your heart, soul and body.

Meditation, prayer (even if you don't know who or what you're talking to), nature, honest assessment and self-reflection.

You need to be ok with yourself, by yourself. Read books, spend time alone, care for yourself. It is a long, arduous road. But it's the only way out of your predicament. I speak from experience.

hiddenpersona · 2017-12-19T12:49:14+00:00

I would advice you to try psychedelics. It will cure your depression for a while and give you a new perspective. I would also advise you to try Semen Retention for two months. Save your semen and tell me how you feel. If you are still depressed after, you either have an addiction or hormonal, blood work problems.

zHelios · 2017-12-20T19:24:32+00:00

I think your biggest problem (I had and I'm still having that one) is that you don't like yourself so you need other people to love you and validate you as a human being.

You need to understand that only you are the only person that can love yourself more than any other person on this planet.

I'm also working on loving myself everyday and it has helped my relationship with other people because i don't search no more validation from them.

Title	How the hell do you beat this depression???
Author	EsteraMC
Upvotes	17
Comments	63
Date	December 18, 2017 9:37 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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