I feel I can never ever share true affection and love with women now because TRP and experience taught me it only drives them away. What to do?

jacques_cousteau007 · 2019-05-07T19:44:55+00:00

You must be like 16

There’s a meme on the Internet where there’s 3 people side to side staring at or over a fence. I’m going to compare them to TRP stages for a graphic example.

Blue Pill

The first person is standing flat on the ground, and can only see the fence, where there’s a painted facade of a beautiful meadow with flowers and sunshine, but it’s not real. The person believes its real, only because they haven’t been presented with another reality, due to their ignorance.

Anger Phase

The second one is standing on a small pile of books, and can see over the fence, right at a horrifying reality, where there’s storm clouds and the Earth is a scorched wasteland. They believe this is all there is, because AGAIN, they haven’t been presented with another reality yet. This one is tricky, because they’ve achieved some level of enlightenment from the small pile of books, so it’s easy to fall into this trap, thinking that they’ve worked a little but to get this view, so it must be the end all.

Amused Mastery

And finally, the third person is standing on a HUGE pile of books, and can see above the clouds, right at the beautiful sky where there’s sunshine, fresh air, and birds are flying overhead. They’ve been at both of the previous stages, but they didn’t give up, knowing that there must be more. They’ve made it through he dystopian view, and kept pushing.

Amused Mastery can only come after you’ve really been through some shit, and haven’t allowed yourself to become bitter from it. When you’ve “seen it all before” and act amused at women’s antics, they respect you a whole lot more because for every one AM man, there are 100’s of Black Pill, purple pill, or incels stuck in the anger phase, unable to get out because they think they know it all already. The less AM mindset men there are, the higher the demand goes for them.

Watch some James Bond videos to understand AM, and stick around the manosphere blogs this subreddit will offer you. Read the sidebar, and above everything else, do not let yourself become bitter and resentful. Life’s a playground for you if you have the right attitude.

Like Lil’ Wayne says: Life is a beach, I’m just playing in the sand

thrownawayisland · 2019-05-07T19:44:47+00:00

You could try treating some plates like a mini LTR and peppering in some beta just to see what happens. Spoiler, TRP is right, but I think in my case I had to see it straight up (sometime I have to learn the hard way in order to realize it's not just me blindly listening to what TRP says, but actually seeing a congruence between the real world and its teachings.)

HurricaneHugues · 2019-05-07T20:53:28+00:00

Take life for what it is and not what u want it to be, when it comes to women. Ye best u can do if youre in a LTR is look for good morals and motherly qualities, because her job is not to love YOU, her job is to prepare to love your children. Men love women, women love children.

Kalikoenig · 2019-05-07T23:22:35+00:00

I've been trying to master this one for a long time and specifically concentrating on this part of my game. First dates, getting laid, and keeping plates are easy, but keeping a quality woman around long term that I have feelings for has been my sticking point of mine. Emotions really fuck us men up.

I've come to the conclusion that affection is not a bad thing, however, the girl needs to initiate it. If the girl reaches for you hand, hold it back. If the girl fucks your brains out, cuddle the shit out of her for that sweet oxytocin release. If the girl gives you a comfort test or unleashes all her feels at you, comfort her with some affection and kind words, and tell her that you think she's fucking awesome. The key is to do it at the right time, when it's earned, and when after she initiates it first.

Additionally, asking about her day is not a bad thing at all. The more questions you ask a girl, the more she talks, and just how humans work, after she spills her guts for 20 minutes, she'll think, "damn, I've been talking so much." and she'll start to ask you questions about your day and life.

It all boils down to not just expressing your feelings and giving affection when you feel like it. You do it when she initiates it and you simply reciprocate. But you need to do it sparingly and show you're doing it because she has earned it and always make sure she's doing it more.

jerrymcguiver · 2019-05-08T01:16:47+00:00

My 10 years of telling my wife i love her hasn't driven her away yet. I started out bp for the first 9 years. We didn't stop "making love" and start "fucking" until this past year. I know to mix the two and don't overdo either, it's something called variety.

Remember that thing called emotion? Yeah it makes sex as good as it can get bud. You should try it.

SubstantialBeanBoi · 2019-05-07T21:18:11+00:00

I'm still in the anger phase. what you need to understand is this shit will happen no matter what what you do, so do it anyway. whats your goal? if its to have a meaningful, loving relationship, you're gonna have to risk some future butthurt. if you just wanna stuff thots, then maintain detachment. whatever is fulfilling to you.

lolurfucked · 2019-05-07T22:34:16+00:00

You have the need for emotional connection, which, in terms of TRP, is not welcomed. Do not get me wrong, women don't lack capacity for emotional connection and affection, but you absolutely cannot be the vulnerable one. They smell it, lose respect, game over. On the other hand, you don't have to have your armor on all the fucking time, not every girl will leave you if you show them love. Do it occasionally, only if you have a reason to reward her, but don't expect her to love you back just because you showed her your hopeless romantic side.

Kill the guy inside that's telling you to reveal your soft cards. First, it's never appreciated (and in that moment doesn't count), second, it drives them away, third, you may feel better if you do show feelings, but in the end you will fall for her (and back to the bluepilled days), which is a nightmare around here. Men live their life without even needing to connect with women on an emotional level, some of those guys are my friends, the natural masculine types, most of them haven't even heard of reddit, let alone TRP.

You may want those feelings buy you absoulutely do not need those feelings, it's just the beta dying inside. Trust the process and keep on becoming more masculine in a toxic way, if you know what I mean.

chazthundergut · 2019-05-08T05:45:39+00:00

You can truly love women, but only if you love them for what they are.

I really love surfing and the ocean. But I never let my guard down because I know she is an unforgiving bitch who will chew me up and drown me the moment I do.

You want to share true affection and unconditional love? Get a puppy

You want to fuck bad bitches? Get to the gym, read the rational male, and get on your purpose

Whisper · 2019-05-08T07:12:21+00:00

Hey, FunSize. I know you're reading this. I love you.

There, see how easy that was? You think she's going to lose respect for me now?

You're a very foolish young man who has taken my advice too simply and literally. You were never being told to become an autistic robot, roboticaly producing countermoves from a bag of tricks.

You were told how to make girls look up to you, so they would love you back.

INNASKILLZ2K18 · 2019-05-08T07:36:23+00:00

You can still give affection...you just give it like a man, and you earn it like a man.

'How glad and completed I am'...jesus. You be glad to be you, and complete yourself. Sounds like bluepill distorted thinking and codependency.

new__vision · 2019-05-08T05:17:45+00:00

It only drives them away if you are low value. Don't do needy, supplicating love, but Captain/First Officer love on top of your attractive leadership qualities. I highly recommend everyone read the sidebar series "LTR Red Pill game in 8 parts":

As the Captain, love hones the greater instincts of your leadership. Love can make you too weak, it can bring you low and pitiful if you do not have mastery over yourself, but when well calibrated, a woman will feel a hopeless gravity toward your love tempered leadership.

Every man is on a spectrum of his instincts to bond, and to protect. This is in concert and in contrast to the instincts to lead and acquire. When a man both loves and leads a woman, both sets of instincts are brought to bear, and love tempers your leadership.

frontiermarine · 2019-05-08T07:37:12+00:00

only do it when she's earned it, reward good behavior in small doses.

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