Just curious

RichieFinn · 2017-01-23T12:07:48+00:00

And he told her something like "if you dont want sex, then you can go sleep at your place". Like, isnt this kinda rude (i am talking about LTR not about someone you just met)? Like, if I really dont feel like having sex right now

Its about what you bring to the relationship, You value his company and his time, so it suits you to take the comfort of his house and his company, but you dont provide what he values, which is sex.

swignewton · 2017-01-23T09:44:58+00:00

she just tells you "these red pill tactics are not gonna work on me" How would you react?

You're missing the point. TheRedPill isn't just a set of steps you follow; it's an entire mindset. They aren't just tactics, it's my personality. If she tries to accuse me of just "using tactics", I can honestly say I'm just being myself.

Another question I have. [...] I am very tired and my man knows this and still try to initiate ignoring me, and at the end he says "go home then" I will pack my things and just go home :D

Okay, thanks for sharing. What part of that is a question?

Do you believe that there are women who really do not like Alpha men?

Sure. There are plenty of women who want a man just to make babies, they don't care about men at all, he's more of a tool for them to use. They want an absolute blue pilled beta, who listens to her every whim. I'm not interested in that kind of woman, so that thought doesn't bother me.

SkorchZang · 2017-01-23T10:06:53+00:00

Good question about "being discovered", and especially saucy coming from a woman. A lot of newer members probably have this weird anxiety about "being found out" to some extent in the beginning. I did too.

Then I had this exact situation happpen a few times to me and saw it for what it was, nothing to worry about. Almost exact same situation, I got "found out" - except that instead of mentioning TRP the girl said something like "oh nice neg, asshole, does that actually work on the other girls" or "I see what you did there, ha ha dude you have nooooo game".

It's normal. Women always do this, even when they don't know about PUA or TRP, and are missing the lingo to express it like that. Women still find a way to be a superior bitch to a guy's face in SOME way, because it really is the perfect cute girly test to see if he is worth fucking or is a big baby himself. Women will act like this even if you have rock solid game, AND SHE ACTUALLY LIKES YOU, so it's to be expected.

It's normal and it's wonderful, keeps the game fun. So you just keep on doing you sweetie, keep on laughing & playing the superior bitch. When men are allowed to do their thing and women to do their thing, everything works just fine and babies get made.

The rest of your questions are typical hamster bullshit, but that's just fine too, and 1/5 isn't so bad either.

serious_bs · 2017-01-23T21:19:59+00:00

"these red pill tactics are not gonna work on me" How would you react? I am sure that there are a lot of women here who are just lurking and will know when someone is doing some of things that are being given as advise here. Its just that I've read a lot about male psychology, I've seen RSD, I've been reading TRP for a long time now just out of curiosity, and I find it very funny when a guy tries to hit on me with these stuff. Like, he is doing everything correctly, according to here, I should be dripping down my thighs, but I just laugh internally at him.

Not sure if it is even possible to control your feelings, but if you can (and do), I think you're making a big mistake. TRP helps men to BECOME attractive, albeit through sometimes faking / acting. TRP observes attractive men and documents and explains their behaviour and mindset. When an unattractive man successfully transforms himself into an attractive man using TRP, he's not playing a game / acting / faking. If internally laugh at every attractive man because you think he's applying red pill tactics, and hereby killing your attraction for him, you're only hurting yourself, as you'll never be physically attracted to a non-attractive man (AWALT, attraction is non-negotiable, ..).

Another question I have. I've read here about a man who wanted to have sex with his gf, however, she said that she is tired but he just went ahead and had sex with her. And he told her something like "if you dont want sex, then you can go sleep at your place". Like, isnt this kinda rude?

Isn't it kinda rude for her to claim him as hers, while only using his resources and not being attracted to him / having sexual interest? Not having sex with him?

Like, if I really dont feel like having sex right now, if I am very tired and my man knows this and still try to initiate ignoring me, and at the end he says "go home then" I will pack my things and just go home :D and maybe end the relationship, but not sure about that.

If you've found a good captain, then a) you'd fuck him, even if you were tired b) you've let him fuck your brains out 30 minutes ago, ergo why you're tired c) your sex life would be awesome and he'd understand if you REALLY were too tired

And third question: Do you believe that there are women who really do not like Alpha men? I see a lot of opinions here that "we can think we like men who are caring and sweet and blah blah, but we get "wet" for the alphas at the end". I mean, there are so many people around the world, so many different cultures, there is no possible way we are all the same. Just to specify. I know that the logic of TRP is not about "how to get women to like you" and is just about men's well being and really, I find a lot of great stuff and stories about how some men here took charge of their life. However, I also see a lot of butthurt men whose previous gf cheated on them and now they think that all women are stupid whores :D

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/5mz6v6/the_exception_to_the_rule + comments

Aaren_Augustine · 2017-01-23T09:51:39+00:00

these red pill tactics are not gonna work on me

My wife knows all about it. But she's led by emotions. A year in and she says I failed a comfort test that was clearly a shit test. Can't tell me the definition or concept of Kino or Game and still giggles even when she knows what I'm doing.

"Ha, that was a pressure flip!"

No, it was agree and amplify. Jesus Christ.

Point is, you won't. You aren't even if you do get it.

Second question will make sure you're searching for a new boyfriend, one more beta then the last. Third question, there are no unicorns or snowflakes. We are similar enough; that's why this all works so well

TheStumblingWolf · 2017-01-23T10:35:02+00:00

For me at least it's all about learning to become a man. I see being a man as something dictated by nature, so it's not about using tactics but being aligned with something deep and primal that's present in every man -even if it may be suppressed.

FrameWalker · 2017-01-23T18:12:28+00:00

You are confusing this for XXchromosomes. What yoy are experiencing is denial and its perfectly normal. Where is your sympathy for the men who are being used or betrayed? Where is your curiosity about the young men who are struggling and are in great pain regarding their sexual lives. The men who are virgins at 25 or 30? They are here to learn.

The crude examples and weak game you come here to mock are steps in the right direction.

Show us your tits or march outta here.

blackedoutfast · 2017-01-23T15:35:18+00:00

TRP game often works better on girls who think they can identify PUA stuff. this stuff seems superficial but it's really operating on a much deeper more animalistic level that don't have a lot of conscious control over. you don't get some kind of "immunity" just from knowing what a neg is or whatever.

what typically happens is that girls like you will only accuse awkward low smv guys of being creepy and using PUA tactics (even if they're not even using PUA shit). high smv guys with experience who can hold their frame and confidently pass shit tests usually don't even get called out for it. even if you know that a high smv male is using a line on you, you'll just come up with a rationalization after the fact and convince yourself that it wasn't creepy when Chad negged you.

oldredder · 2017-01-23T11:44:32+00:00

Women don't ever do that. Can't.

They always work and most women either don't know about the red pill or DO know about it and know it works.

It always works.

I mean, there are so many people around the world, so many different cultures, there is no possible way we are all the same.

Yes there is, just like all people need food, sleep and water. It's one of those.

Like, he is doing everything correctly, according to here, I should be dripping down my thighs, but I just laugh internally at him.

No. What happens here is EVERY variation of flirting possible EXCEPT being a weak man with no spine and no self-respect. So you are just lying.

quicklogaccount · 2017-01-23T11:52:57+00:00

If you're talking about "red pill tactics", you got this wrong.
AWALT!
(Just kidding. Way too many people have your reading.)

It's a bit disappointing to address your questions provided that you got it wrong, but it is still possible, so...

How would you react?

Depends on the girl. If she's smart I'll say something like "You're nothing like the white rabbit". If she's not I'll just give it a bit of a "uh?" and go back to the original point.

Like, isnt this kinda rude (i am talking about LTR not about someone you just met)?

I do think it is, but read into it as you want to.

Do you believe that there are women who really do not like Alpha men?

No. An alpha might not be a jerk though.
When you categorize relationships in long and short, you notice that there's a wild different set of traits women seek in men for each prospect.
For short term relationships, women look for more "shallow" traits. Looks and the alike, and won't be too bothered if he's "a bit of a jerk". For long term, they'll look for dependability and trustworthiness.
Our understanding is that the "short term traits" are responsible for "attraction" and sexuality, and the "long term traits", bonding. And that won't change.
We also believe that long term traits are actually "actively" non attractive, not simply neutral. Turn offs.
You might not act on your impulses though. Lots of women don't.

However, I also see a lot of butthurt men whose previous gf cheated on them and now they think that all women are stupid whores

Yeah, angry guys will think that. Eventually we just accept we were encouraged to have really flawed expectations towards women and relationships.

Corliame · 2017-01-23T09:41:13+00:00

... Sssshhhh don't raise the issue that many people have commented on :L

TRP isn't perfect, no ideology is, but if the core principle gets men eating right, working out, removing the apathy from their minds whilst also explaining how women actually are, and are not sugar and spice bla bla bla, creating real relationships rather than what the media says a relationship should be, i say let it be. Hell we let religion exist using the same logic.

The PUA moves, i've never used. Right off the bat i knew they were flawed, i'm yet to see many discuss the need for spontaneity when applying these moves and women are far more complex then some RP'ers like to admit to themselves

And to address the question of arguing, quite simply, the "true alpha" knows when he's fucked up. He wouldn't/shouldn't argue until he knows he is right, or at least more right :L

Title	Just curious
Author	baiconko
Upvotes	6
Comments	28
Date	January 23, 2017 9:31 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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