On friends

SaintMarinus · 2015-07-13T17:50:48+00:00

The more I tried to help them the less they wanted to talk to me.

There is nothing Red Pill/Alpha about giving advice to people when they don't ask/want it.

I Red pilled a few of my close friends. They DID want it, yet our friendships are damaged.

My opinion on talking about TRP has changed. Never speak of it to your friends. Like many guys here, I found TRP because I felt like shit. I couldn't get over an ex, and no matter where I looked I could not find an explanation. She never gave me closure, finding TRP was my closure.

When you start talking about this in front of dudes who haven't went through that suffering or haven't sought out to find something to better their lives, they're not going to understand it 100%.

It's like the difference between working your ass off for a nice car, and being given a nice car. Sure, you'll still appreciate having it, but the guy who was just "given" the car will never understand how hard it was to get it.

For that reason, they're more careless, to a point where it can be dangerous.

Most of these guys are only focused on understanding women, which is a really solid goal. But for me, I had to understand myself first. They don't get that yet.

To sum up your problems with your friends and give you a solution...

Lead by example. Let your actions do the talking. Once they notice the positive change in your life they will seek your advice.

When it comes to a "true friend."

What do you mean by that?

What constitutes a "true friend?"

I have some really good friends. Some of them are your stereotypical natural alpha's who don't even know about TRP, some of the are reforming betas who are on TRP, and others are BP and are happy with themselves.

TRP with friends is like politics. You can have different beliefs and still be great friends, you just don't talk about it in front of them.

Sepean · 2015-07-13T18:47:44+00:00

Apparently you read 48 laws but didn't internalize it. I get the need to talk about your worldview and help your friends. I feel that too, but I've stopped trying that in real life. Even dropping a few feelers got awkward silences. There's asktrp, and if you really want to help poor souls in need of advice on how to handle women, drop by slash r slash deadbedrooms. The way these guys reject good advice should cure you of that need quickly.

Myrpl · 2015-07-13T19:01:19+00:00

The more I tried to help them the less they wanted to talk to me.

This might sound brutal but, after losing 2-3 people from long-term friends by trying to advise them (and no, we weren't even talking about TRP concepts around women, just to keep improving) I was told here to "lead by example" and that's what I will advice you to do next time.

Lead by example. If the next people require to learn anything from you, let them ask. Don't try to give them fish without asking, no matter how much you care about them.

suddenlytrp · 2015-07-13T19:25:52+00:00

I've gotten similar reactions from a couple of friends I've tried to help by telling them about TRP. It didn't go over well. The BB way is stong in its clutches.

I've also had a female friend tell me I've become an asshole (though she still likes to hang out with me.) Apparently me not acting like an orbiter who would never get the time of day from her made her label change to "asshole."

As with any friend though, you have to have overlapping ideals at times for a strong friendship. Friends change over time, just like you do. Be willing to accept that you may lose a few in this process, and seek out others who are like minded, or who might not judge you based on the way you were before compared to now.

FelixCopy · 2015-07-13T20:08:06+00:00

You trying to "help them" or "fix them" is as annoying as them trying to contain you or keep you BP. Stop doing that. That's why they don't like you.

ShrimShrim · 2015-07-13T20:23:54+00:00

My very presence became a threat to their way of life

No offense, but if this is how you talk to them, no shit they stopped wanting to be around you. I doubt your "very presence" was a "threat to their way of life." You're not that special.

MeatCurtainRod · 2015-07-13T21:56:49+00:00

The unfortunate notion of the plugged in world is that TRP is some form of evil. You will most likely come off as some fanatical preacher to them. Don't do this. Ever. TRP is for ones who swallowed the pill, not for the plugged in.

cmiovino · 2015-07-13T17:53:23+00:00

I believe there certainly are. I'm 27 and many of mine are 30+ and we share at least one major hobby in common. Cars, firearms, something like that. We can then bond and talk, drink, shoot the shit about anything. These people always are on time, pay back debts, and help you out too.

I find with many people younger than me, especially in the 21-25 year old age range, men (or should I say boys?) are overly competitive with each other in the wrong way. No one wants to help or learn from each other to slowly up the ante together. Many base their success on material objects, girls, or how much more money they make than the other. There is a huge perception gap with Facebook, Twitter, etc.. everyone posts all the seemingly good things they're doing and places they go.

I've begun to feel real friends are few and far between. You'll have 1-2 really great ones that will do anything for you and genuinely want to see you succeed. A handful of other good friends that have a mutual relationship with you.. they benefit, you benefit. When either gets imbalanced, they flake. And an onslaught of acquaintances.

Title	On friends
Author	Zeparic
Upvotes	4
Comments	11
Date	July 13, 2015 5:16 PM UTC (11 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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