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What do you think about the apparent mental scarring the red pill ideal had on this woman?

wakka54

August 5, 2014
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Title What do you think about the apparent mental scarring the red pill ideal had on this woman?
Author

wakka54

Upvotes 0
Comments 37
Date August 5, 2014 4:03 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/askTRP
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/asktrp/comments/2cp5qq/what_do_you_think_about_the_apparent_mental/
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Comments

[–]4lonGterMgoalS4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Red pill ideal? Where does it say this is an ideal?

[–]wakka54[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

It says women having sex makes them lose value and remaining a virgin until marriage is the red pill ideal all over the subreddit. Like every other post.

[–]1OneTouchHowMuch3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think you mean, Women having meaningless sex outside of commitment with many, many men so that they feel validated and loved makes them lose value.

That seems to be more in line with TRP

[–]4lonGterMgoalS4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

remaining a virgin until marriage is the red pill ideal all over the subreddit. Like every other post.

You have links? I just checked and I didn't see anything that says remaining a virgin until marriage is a redpill ideal.

[–]Average_Black_Man1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

remaining a virgin until marriage is the red pill ideal all over the subreddit. Like every other post.

He means for women

[–]4lonGterMgoalS3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No shit.

"He" is probably a "she" and this entire discussion is concern trolling. That's why they haven't replied.

[–]wakka54[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Alright dude. Whatever you say.

[–]4lonGterMgoalS2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn. Here I thought you were gonna go back to TBP and get one of those collages you guys like to make of "TRP's greatest hits."

[–]j0hnan0n0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Remaining a virgin until marriage is a hypothetical ideal. What TRP values is the understanding (statistically verified in multiple studies) that as a females' sexual partner count rises, the likelihood of her marriage ending in divorce also rises. Those two datasets are correlated. It's not a hard-and-fast rule, it's just a trend that holds true in most circumstances.

You're taking a philosophy and pushing it to ad absurdum levels, then getting mad when people point out the flaws in your logic. The woman in the articles' problem wasn't that she was a virgin, it's that she made her whole identity about being a virgin. A good RPW has skills, knows how to please her man and be feminine, etc etc.

You can't get hung up on one specific part of a philosophy and claim that that's the whole thing.

[–]byronshadow 3 points3 points3 points 12 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

There's certainly a faction within the RP community that's very right-wing and religious. But don't assume they're the majority.

A woman doesn't lose value when she sleeps around because she's spiritually "soiled" or any nonsense like that. She loses value because she has all sorts of emotional baggage from being treated as a walking fleshlight. And woe to the guy who takes her in and has to deal with hordes of exes and "guy friends" trying to hook up with her.

[–]wakka54[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

OK, so replace every instance of religion with whatever TRP philosophy and its the same article: Woman feels like shit for staying a virgin because it turned out to be pointless and gave her a mental complex

[–]GrandCzarOfRedPill2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

OK, so replace every instance of religion with whatever TRP philosophy and its the same article

This is absurd. If you replace religion with TRP philosophy then it's not the same article. You're grasping at straws.

[–]wakka54[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 12 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Disagree, and you smugly dismissing it as unthinkable says more about you than me.

[–]GrandCzarOfRedPill2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You disagreeing doesn't make your claim true. I dismissed it because you make absolutely no sense whatsoever. That entire article is regarding religious ideologies. Yet you yourself call red pill a philosophy.

I might add that no where in the side bar does it state this as a "redpill ideal."

So what exactly is your point? I think you're a troll.

[–]wakka54[S] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, good then. Red Pillers don't want to marry virgins. Great change in philosophy, proud of you guys.

[–]GrandCzarOfRedPill2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We aim to please.

[–]j0hnan0n1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

No part of the red pill ideal has anything to do with religion. She was a mascot for the religious ideal, not ours. If anything, a RPM would want a woman who's willing and eager to satisfy him sexually, rather than ashamed and guilty of what she's doing. Is it tricky to find one who will also stay loyal to you? Maybe. That depends on how well you fulfill her sexual and emotional needs. I make it clear that if she finds someone better, she's free to pursue that. But if she does, she can expect that I'll never take her back, and that it goes both ways; if she wants to keep me around she should keep herself healthy, know (or learn) how to cook, and be sexually available and enthusiastic.

This works for me. Maybe it wouldn't work for everybody, but if experience is any guide, I think anybody could make it work.

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[–]j0hnan0n0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Where outside of religion do people make virginity promises? Also, you can't fly to the moon on a horse, and Apollo didn't miss the moon, they aborted the landing after an equipment failure. (oxygen tank IIRC)

I absolutely DO recognize the insanity of virginity promises, but you yourself note that they're implemented by Christian communities.

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[–]j0hnan0n0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Were you planning on answering, or just making ad hominems?

Oh, and the point was that OP wanted our opinion. I gave it. What was your point again?

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[–]j0hnan0n0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh look, you just googled what an ad hominem is. I'm guessing you never took nor read any logic whatsoever. You're still avoiding answering and delivering ad hominems.

I'm waiting, Miss Troll.

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[–]j0hnan0n0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm still waiting for you to say something interesting, much less informative. It's hard to learn from trolls.

[–]j0hnan0n0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh, and a couple more things: there's no reason to discuss the 'point' of a thesis if its' premise is flawed. I addressed the flaw in her premise that this was a RedPill ideal.

Secondly, I like how you get on my case for saying the article was about religion, then you continue on to say how the problem lies in, quote, "modern white/suburbanite/affluent/fluffly-haired-and-straight-toothed Christian communities"

nice consistency there. /s

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[–]j0hnan0n0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

says the guy who's shitting on people because they disagree with him.

Hokay.

[–]1kick61 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You can't attribute the mental scarring to the red pill. That was all improperly applied Christianity. Her being the red pill ideal was only coincidental to a fucked up upbringing where she was only schooled in very myopic parts of the biblical plan for women. The fact that she felt soiled by being a christian wife means that virginity was beat into her head but they skipped the godliness of being a biblical wife.

[–]boscoist1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That was all applied Christianity.

FTFY.

[–]1kick6-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. There's more to christianity than "don't fuck till you're married." In fact, I elaborate on that later in the post you "fixed."

[–]2Misteralcala1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

There is sidebar material to read. If you want to understand TRP, you can read the suggested material. Or you can make posts like this that make you look like a huge troll. You could also argue with me, but again it still makes you look like a troll since I'm just pointing you to the sidebar material where you could get a better feel of what TRP is about, instead of making asinine comparisons.

[–]wakka54[S] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I read the entirety of therationalmale, probably took 15 hours straight, I know what TRP is about. You glorify virgins. This woman glorified virginity in herself. It fucked her up. You seem to be in denial if you won't even address that, and instead try to pretend it's unrelated.

[–]GrandCzarOfRedPill1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The fact that you spend so much time on something you appear to despise says a lot about you.

[–]j0hnan0n0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

ITT: trolls doing troll things because they're trolls

[–]wakka54[S] -1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Anyone who says you're wrong is a troll. Just believe it, and your mind will never be bothered.

[–]j0hnan0n-1 points0 points1 point 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope that metric works for you. Mine's somewhat different. Good luck on your many journeys, though!

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