What is your conversion rate?

masterrod · 2015-06-05T12:16:39+00:00

I'm very sure I'm in top 10% in terms of a looks alone and chill attitude as well as financial status,

Then you should be a model.

yet I often get the "I have a boyfriend" reply.

You're a intentions are too direct. Boyfreind doesn't always mean committed boyfriend.

What gives? Do I really need to drive a Bentley and completely overkill it to make it in Eastern Europe? I mean, she would never mention her "boyfriend" if I was higher status than him as women are always looking to trade up. What the hell? I doubt even 1% has the body I have, the masculine skeletal proportions along with height and impeccable dress sense. I really worked for this and now when I finally have confidence to approach women without even getting my heartbeat elevated, they all have boyfriends.

You worked for this? how many ladies have you approached cold? How many different methods do you know?

How do you get hot women then if all of them are taken?

They aren't.

I only approach 7-10s. Objective 7-10's, not "internet standards" like most of the guys post.

This doesn't matter.

NickCiufi · 2015-06-05T14:06:50+00:00

I'm calling troll. If this is a real post, saying they have a boyfriend is a shit test. Just say something to the effect of "good for you! It's hard to find a good man these days." She'll get the point.

tepper2 · 2015-06-05T14:27:46+00:00

I'm confident that I look cooler than 90% of guys, I'm very sure I'm in top 10% in terms of a looks alone and chill attitude as well as financial status, yet I often get the "I have a boyfriend" reply.

Your perception of yourself may be skewed. There's something about you that is disqualifying you, and you're failing the boyfriend shit test.

Also, fclose percentages are in the single digits for the top tier. I don't personally count, but I'm way above average for my neck of the woods.

How do you get hot women then if all of them are taken?

They aren't all taken, and even those who are can be convinced otherwise.

I only approach 7-10s. Objective 7-10's, not "internet standards" like most of the guys post.

What are these internet standards? Sharp knees? If she's fuckable, you should be approaching.

Your post and responses in this thread make it seem like you come off as a try-hard. Consider this.

TheGillos · 2015-06-05T12:35:54+00:00

Probably a game problem, some have boyfriends, but not all of them...

FrameWalker · 2015-06-05T14:35:19+00:00

You're approaching this logically using a reasonable thought process:

Girls fuck hot guys
I'm a hot guy
Therefore, girls should fuck me

The problem is your assumptions around the idea that girls fuck hot guys. You have focused on the physical attributes, but women don't live in an objective reality - it's an emotional reality.

Trade emotions for sex. Hot guys have an easier time generating emotions. Think of it as an art or a dance - there's got to be suspense, mystery, dramatic moments. For the girl it can be overwhelming at times and viscerally beautiful. If it's logical and straightforward there are no tingles.

Also cold approach is hard. Try some indirect game. Wow the coffee here tastes weird today is gonna be a better opener than hi i thought u were cute what r u up to. I imaging eastern european women are looking for more beta traits as well.

FelixCopy · 2015-06-05T15:14:03+00:00

Something's a bit off with your posting dude. Seems like you're overcompensating. Maybe this is coming off in your real life conversations? How tall are you?

You're also putting far too much emphasis in aesthetics when it's more about frame, demeanour and image.

"Dressing impeccably" can come off as quite beta if you're not dressing for a certain alpha image. Too metrosexual can be, well, too metrosexual. I've learned the hard way.

fnordsnord · 2015-06-05T12:52:58+00:00

The very best of us have maybe a 10% f-close rate on cold approaches. That's it. Cold approaches are the "hard mode" of game, and you are trying to climb Mount Everest.

If you are making, say, 25% number close and a 10% F-close (third date), you are doing very well at that altitude.

MrEiffel · 2015-06-05T13:52:05+00:00

My stats by rough estimate:

Getting a telephone number: 95+% (one girl gave me her email, I can't recall being refused)
First date: 70% of the numbers
Getting Laid: 70% of dates.

I have high SMV but more importantly I don't hit on women who aren't interested in me. All the PUA stuff of approaching 84684648 women with a can of openers is bullshit. Three seconds after I talk to a girl I know if she desperately wants me/is into me/curious/just not interested. If it's the last I don't waste my time and just talk with her if she's interesting, otherwise I move on.

Title	What is your conversion rate?
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Date	June 5, 2015 11:58 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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