Alphas don't give a shit, right?

madcaesar · 2011-05-04T15:44:53+00:00

Umm what you are doing is not alpha, it's not mature and not what seduction is for.

You're gaming a girl with a BF, some here might approve, but I believe if you are chasing a girl that has a BF you have no idea what abundance mentality is and what attraction is.
Even if you are trying to get a girl, you've been at this for a month or TWO?? And this is where you're at? Her biting your finger? Again, if I'm putting 2 months into a girl she better be well into biting and sucking on something else.
Being alpha means showing value, it means being the person that others gravitate two, that others look up to. It's not about 'fucking that girl with a BF'.

So here's my advice, re-evaluate what you are doing, and what seduction and being alpha is all about. You should be dating single girls, attracting EVERYONE around you and bettering yourself as a person. Drop this childish shit and become a man.

2011-05-04T16:30:31+00:00

There's a lot of unnecessarily judgmental comments in seddit lately. It's up to a girl to choose who she's with. There are people who are in relationships because of many reasons, some shitty, some not.

To the op, just have fun. Enjoy your time with this girl, don't take shit seriously. If she's not doing it for you, or you're unhappy, move on. Until then, keep on keeping on. ;)

T3hJ3hu · 2011-05-04T17:59:56+00:00

An Alpha does give a shit. Moreso than the majority of people, in fact -- a man just knows which aspects of his life need that attention and which don't. If you give a shit, that means you have passion, something to fight for, respect for yourself, and the ability to take care of business.

It's not that an Alpha doesn't give a shit; it's that an Alpha is resilient and strong when shit is thrown his way. A man knows how to prioritize what's really important in life. He challenges himself to fulfill his goals (getting that girl), but is secure enough in himself to roll with the punches and continue enjoying life after a failure (getting rejected) -- after all, every failure is a learning experience, which only strengthens us as individuals.

It's not that you should carry on as though nothing happened. You learned a lot that night, namely that she's interested but is otherwise obligated. Continue enjoying life and having fun, but use that experience. Try a different approach next time, or maybe just drop her entirely until she's available. A man doesn't spend his life chasing around one disinterested woman; that'll get old for her faster than it will for you, at which point you're just digging your own grave.

frogma · 2011-05-04T18:25:44+00:00

IMO, the playfulness/immaturity was fine. It's what I do.

Depending what you mean by "in the cutest voice possible," it doesn't sound like she was too pissed off or anything. You probably just took the wrestling thing too far.

I think the main issue is that you didn't really escalate. Ideally, you could've started escalating early, and pushed further. Instead (probably due to the drunkenness), you were just having fun and not realizing all the opportunities to make a move that you were probably given (I've been there many times- I'd bet you were probably still hesitant about it despite the alcohol too).

Otherwise, of course you shouldn't apologize. Don't even bring it up. If she brings it up, more often than not I'd brush it off and keep doing what I'm doing. You can tone down the playfulness a little bit, probably, but otherwise just keep being you. And remember to escalate and caveman that shit when you get an opening.

intjpua · 2011-05-04T17:43:26+00:00

You're focused too much on this girl. You do give a fuck, and that's why you're failing with her. You need to be bringing other girls into this circle of friends. Alphas have options.

If you wanted to get this one, you'd run jealousy game instead of "following her around like a goofy puppy" game.

Don't get me wrong, people are picking on you for being immature, or whatever, and you are, but not because you're playing with her in this way. Playing like you're a kid, every now and then, is absolutely great game. Shoving a girl is good game. Teasing is great game. Blocking her path is good game. Wrestling is good game. Punching a girl in the arm is good game. But, not all at once, and not when she's not reciprocating. She knows you're flirting with her; it's not a secret that this stuff is flirting. By flirting when she's not reciprocating, you're giving her value and lowering yours. She's worthy of being chased in this story, and you're the lower value guy chasing her.

In short, be cooler. Bring more girls into your mutual monkeysphere. Stop paying attention to her, let her feel what it's like when you're not around. Be awesome when you see her, but be more awesome to other girls. Let her initiate in the future...and then retreat some more. You're going to have to make her chase you a lot at this point to overcome the damage of chasing her aggressively all night, and get back to being someone she's into and might make mistakes with.

rkg-pua · 2011-05-04T15:59:13+00:00

you are in the friend zone or the turd zone. occasional playful pushing/teasing is fun, your actions remind of something i'd see at a fifth grade social.

philosarapter · 2011-05-04T18:52:13+00:00

Cool story, bro.

intjpua · 2011-05-04T17:17:47+00:00

What was the point of this?

throwawayway · 2011-05-04T15:27:11+00:00

In before you get mad at me for posting this in seddit. Seduction is for picking up women, right? Well, I'm playing the long pick-up game here. Also, I can't really ask this question in /r/RA now.

Title	Alphas don't give a shit, right?
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Date	May 4, 2011 3:24 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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