Am I supposed to make the first move on everything? Should I pause for a bit?

publiclandlover · 2019-06-09T07:18:17+00:00

Shit man that’s pretty much me in this moment.

PawnToKing · 2019-06-09T07:37:14+00:00

your resentment is building up? okay, your brain is broken. read "the mood cure". and you can afford it. books are cheap. bet their knowledge is very valuable.

to address the nested question: yes, you always have to make the first move. because the world is an economy, and when it comes to the sexual market place the visually higher valued individual will always be the commodity and the lower will be the consumer attempting to purchase. so there are two types of men, those who are naturally successful with women of the quality they want, and men who need help like r/seduction. guess what type you are (or all of us for that matter)

if you wanna be chased, lower your standards or become so attractive than someone will want to chase you.

SocialReject101 · 2019-06-09T14:42:52+00:00

You are like most of the guys here. You are doing these things for the sake of doing them. You are still lazy, because you are trying to tell us that you are "going out of your way". Why does it bother you?

Because you aren't enjoying it. That is not who you are. You are still in your old shell playing the make pretend game. If you had enjoyed your activities including "going out of your way" you would literally not give two shits about people flaking because you would already have so many people around you that one or two people (hell even ten) flaking wouldn't make any difference.

But instead you let it get to you. That is neediness. You have to do more things to fill up your schedule with different activities so you stop concentrating on "going out your way" instead making it your routine of " going your way."

NicktheGreen · 2019-06-09T11:00:11+00:00

Holy shit, you are just like me

ImJustSo · 2019-06-09T14:45:07+00:00

Not sure if it's exactly what you're describing, but I often experience dating fatigue. I don't really question it or get upset about it, I just acknowledge it and take a break. Things start to get annoying? Well, why the fuck am I doing it then? So, I just stop until I'm ready again.

imageall · 2019-06-09T16:13:46+00:00

Sounds like you need to put things in your schedule that you want to do and are ok doing by yourself if possible, and when you invite people it's a blessing to them, not to you. Then if they flake you don't give a fuck because you're doing something you wanted to do anyway and it's their loss

stevenmarkryan · 2019-06-09T20:45:14+00:00

Took some courage to post, and some brains to pick up a book seeking to improve. Well done on both counts.

Real talk. You have some deep internal work to do. Keep reading and learning and growing and becoming a better person. Forget women for now. Focus on you.

Make sure you are surrounded with great quality people, too. Those close to you influence your thinking and your standards.

That said, regarding the courting process, 95% of the time the guy will be pursuing initially (usually for the first few weeks). Unless the woman is more masculine. Just the way things are.

ownthehobo · 2019-06-09T21:17:01+00:00

Honestly I would say you should just take a break. Hope in your car, and drive somewhere and go on a solo road trip. Provides great time for introspection and gives you the opportunity to meet new people in different places. Everytime I feel stuck in a rut it's really cleared my mind and out things in perspective.

MiCtbF · 2019-06-09T23:46:23+00:00

Paraphrasing the prophet Todd V:

You're at an intermediate level when you're getting results, but it tends to be you pushing the girl to do stuff until she gives in. You're advanced when you've got girls chasing you instead.

XtoDoubt · 2019-06-09T13:12:00+00:00

Spin more plates. When you set up dates, set up two at the same time near each other so if one flakes you can go to the other. If both are coming flake on one. You need to learn you are the prize. That comes from having options. Drop girls who repeatedly flake or seem uninterested.

Freeliljay · 2019-06-09T09:25:14+00:00

Yeah you have to make the move on everything

Title	Am I supposed to make the first move on everything? Should I pause for a bit?
Author	SaimonMon
Upvotes	23
Comments	14
Date	June 9, 2019 5:37 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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