Are logistics overrated?

ThrowawayPUA · 2017-09-20T14:33:58+00:00

Logistics are underrated. Many promising sets with serious attraction will die at the last moment, due to poor logistics. Some PUAs suggest screening for logistics first, so you don't waste your time in sets that won't pan out.

prim8_king · 2017-09-20T15:28:34+00:00

Logistics are UNDERrated.

Of course your house doesn't create attraction. We all know this, and it would be absolutely stupid to believe that. That being said...

Who do you think is going to fuck this Friday? The experienced dude who tells the girl she now has to get in an Uber with a perfect stranger and go an hour away? Or the newer guy who manages to get a bit of attraction, just enough trust to bounce the girl and then starts going "mario kart! It's just across the street! We'll be back in 10 minutes!"

The experienced guy needs to have the girl and potentially also her friends completely wrapped around his little finger to take them anywhere that's more than 15 minutes away. And if they're willing to come that far with you, you've done more work than you need to.

But if you have the pad in the heart of town... I'd like to have a chat with you on the off chance we're in the same city, because I will personally throw you more girls than you could possibly imagine. When your house is a 2 minute walk from the club, you can probably fuck 3 or 4 girls a night if you're decent at it. Because the level of investment required to get in isolation with you is SO FUCKING LOW.

This is why "I got a condo in manhattan... baby girl what's happenin'" is a better line than "hey girl, come get in a car with a stranger and travel 45 minutes away from all your friends."

Because you always want to LOWER THE AMOUNT OF SHIT SHE HAS TO DO TO GET WITH YOU. Be the CONVENIENT option.

That is all.

TheXXL · 2017-09-20T13:52:18+00:00

Totally agreed, but having the right logistics on your end is also not enough. Just because you are ready to fuck, doesn't mean she is. She might be on her period, her friends are bugging her to go home, her brother is sick, her cat died, she is tired, has to work next day... yada yada... Logistics means all of this. Basically the word says: Check if all hurdles are overcome. And of course, a girl that is not into you, will not give a fuck about anything when it comes to going home to you/her or the next dumpster to have quickie. I can believe anyone would really think it's just that.

MagnusRoundstone · 2017-09-20T13:30:43+00:00

Attraction alone isn't going to get you to your end game in 99% of situations. To your point, having a place to go isn't going to help without attraction. Both are needed but attraction comes first.

Luffydude · 2017-09-20T14:47:11+00:00

It takes a whole LOT less effort and commitment from a girl to comply with "hey, let's go upstairs, there's mario kart and wine, it's right there!!"

than with "hey we need to go into an uber for an 80 minute drive outside the city and btw we also need to split the uber ride"

With this said you MUST know for sure that the girl does not have any other commitments after seeing you. If a girl tells me "I can meet you for a quick drink then I need to go somewhere else" then I simply reply with "I don't like being multitasked, let's meet when you are actually free"

SpinPlates · 2017-09-20T16:51:45+00:00

In my (unpopular) opinion I think logistics matter more than game. Sure you need attraction but I feel like most guys have enough game to pull back to an apartment but not enough to fuck in a bathroom or car. If you can consistently fuck in a bathroom or car you're either a Greek God or you're pulling girls from the bottom of the barrel.

I remember when I went from an apartment 3 miles to the clubbing area in my city to a new apartment 3 blocks away and my success rate sky rocketed. The difference between pointing at my apartment from a bar and saying "I live right there" and saying "My apartment is 5 minutes away in an uber" was a night and day difference. Every little thing you can simplify makes a hookup exponetioanlly easier.

I think if you're a man and game and hook ups are something you value in life you should absolutely move to a hot spot in a big city. If you can afford it. Get roommates if you have to.

pragmaticmystic · 2017-09-24T03:58:38+00:00

I have a pretty dope van and its the best logistics ever. I pulled up in Pacific Beach SD one night on these stacked girls standing out side of the club and asked this girl if she wanted to check out my house. I was totally surprised when she said yes X) A lot of times Ill ask if the girl smokes ganj, if she says yes I'll tell her I have some in my car if she wants to smoke. Also for dates we can build a fire by a river in the mountains, cook up some trout or something, and cuddle in the bed and listen to music. Pretty gangster actually.

But I'm getting off on a tangent. Most guys don't lay any groundwork for the pull. You don't have to but it can make your job exponentially easier.

Start by leading her around the club, take her to dance floor, to bar, outside because you want to find your friend on the patio, to your car because you left something in there you want to get, w/e. This builds trust.

Also if you give her some plausible deniability so she doesn't feel like a slut it can really help out. You don't say "want to come back to my place?" You might as well ask her if she wants to have sex. Instead give her a reason like checking out your cool cat pictures or setting up a new hot wheels set you just got. That way she doesn't have to feel obligated to hook up with you if she leaves with you and she has something stupid to tell her friends.

Also, you don't need to wait till the end of the night to pull which for some reason took me forever to figure out. If you can kiss a girl, she's generally ready to be pulled. And if you guys can sneak away for a mini adventure for like 15 minutes while the bar or club isn't closing, its a lot less noticeable by her friends. Thats when things like bathroom pulls happen.

This is HUGE in places like Vegas mainly because everyones plastered by 4am and she's with a huge group of overprotective bachelorettes that are all concerned about going home together. Bonus points if you can sneak her out of the club before the headliner comes on so she can still see whatever terrible DJ is performing.

DirkDieGurke · 2017-09-20T16:29:20+00:00

Girls will fuck in a bathroom, alley, or car so I wouldn't obsess about the logistics. Focus on your game first.

NTSpike · 2017-09-20T17:12:14+00:00

Logistics are incredibly underrated.

If you're doing approaches you're inevitably going to get interest and catch waves of high buying temperature. The ability to immediately act on it and get investment on the girls part is invaluable. Logistics remove the barriers and allow you to close immediately rather than force you to play a long game.

Are logistics overrated?

having logistics doesn't = attraction

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