I know many in this community have a stigma against programs and I'd say a lot of programs can be really shitty and not helpful at all.

However, that doesn't mean we should go black and white and say all programs are shit, like A LOT in this community do.

It seems like a lot people in this community (hate to see it) completely want to abandon theory and let the kinks work themselves out even though many have paved the way before us.

I have "The System" by Todd V but a lot of the stuff I use from it usually comes across as too gamey and the girls pick up on it. (Push-pulls, mini cold reads, making the girl qualify etc. ) It can come off as uncalibrated and piss the girls off.

I now have "The Hotseat at home" by RSD and it's a way more of a natural way of building attraction but at the same time I'm afraid it won't work.

Learning the skills on how to flirt, escalate, etc. are crucial and there's a lot of shit advice out there so I'm curious on if anyone found success from a certain source