Autism and seduction

ThaMassAppeal · 2015-07-02T15:39:18+00:00

RSDTyler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OVZ9xk1B-o

Bogey_Kingston · 2015-07-02T19:00:45+00:00

I think your best bet is to master having fun - if you're having a blast chatting to a cute girl about trains and she's not at least somewhat enthused to hear about it, then she's probably not for you.

The best thing about talking to people, particularly strangers is that you're starting off with a totally blank page. More than likely they don't really know what to say to you even if they do want to talk to you. I think of Joe Rogan's podcast where he will go off on a tangent about some topic that I find to be boring... Bigfoot or something. But he's enthused and he's having fun talking about it and finds a way to keep me listening.

I wish I understood Autism and Asperger better so that I could really give you an answer instead of generic social advice.

mistersunman · 2015-07-03T00:17:18+00:00

So you say you have a severe problem "recognizing" social cues to find out if a girl really finds you attractive or if you are creepy.

You also stated that you are the stereotypical autistic kid that doesn't shut up about Trains...

Here are my two cents.

I would read up on IOIs (Indicators of Interest). Read about all of them, try to memorize them, and then go out and try to recognize them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/cortx/heres_a_little_list_of_iois_feel_free_to_add/

https://www.puaforums.com/approaching-running-sets-building-attraction/2496-iois-indicators-interest-list.html

This might not be as easy as I think, I don't know how hard it is for you to visually see these cues or these behaviors, and look back into your memory and be able to think, "Oh, this is an IOI. Therefore she has attraction to me. I must move forward on this."... But this helped me a lot. I have ADHD.

For example, when a girl brushes her hair back out of her face when greeting you or nearby you, this is an IOI. Even if you don't know for certain if this is directed at you, just assume it is. Take the chance. You see her brushing her hair, or doing any of the listed behaviors, assume attraction. Don't think about it too much. Don't think about the whys, the hows, the whens... If you visually see her doing the physical movements with her body in the list, like smiling, touching etc... ACT ON IT! GO!

I've memorized them enough myself, to where I don't even have to think about them or even look for them. When the IOIs present themselves, or in other words when the girls do an IOI, I'm able to remember the things I've read and then act on them...

In terms of you talking endlessly about Trains or whatever your interests are, I would say OWN THAT SHIT!!!!

What that means is, if you REALLY like trains, then don't just talk about them. Show me how much you like them! Be enthusiastic! Or, as the other replies have said, "have fun"... In fact, have as much fun as possible! I want to hear how you think a train sounds! Choo choo! Louder! CHOO CHOO! I don't care about all the facts about your favorite train, unless you show me how much you care. If you think trains are cool as shit, don't just talk about them, elaborate more on the beauty you see in them! You clearly see something in Trains, that I don't. You clearly, see some depth in them that I don't. I can't appreciate something in this world, as much as you! But I can appreciate your energy and vibe about it. I can feel through your emotions and your vibe. I can experience your passion for trains, through your emotions! OWN THAT SHIT! Have fun!

redditisawesomeinla · 2015-07-02T15:29:05+00:00

You should master creating a strong connection with a woman in a short amount of time. Also, read up on female body language. Doing things such as meditation will also help as I think it will help you be more relaxed which will help you in all facets of your life including interacting with women.

Smartare · 2015-07-03T09:14:20+00:00

One of my friends is a freaking awesome pickup guy. Like he can pickup any girl. I'm pretty sure he has mild autism and its why he successful. He simply don't understand the normal social rules or when its a situation that others would find awkward. He just does his thing.

bittertrack · 2015-07-03T10:40:36+00:00

The way I see it, you're working hard to "cover" your asperger instead of having fun in conversations. Don't try to hide or change who you are man, I bet there are plenty girls who would find you amusing (not in a bad way) to talk to, because the conversation will be less predictable. When you don't understand what she is saying or signing, just interupt her and say something like: I'm sorry, could you be more direct, I have Aspergers, in fact: I'm really proud of myself for not bringing up trains yet.

Sure, some girls will reject you after hearing that, but others might think that you're interesting or whatever. Goodluck!

Ps: couldn't help but notice your redditname, nice to see people from my country here ;p

PercivalSchuttenbach · 2015-07-02T18:29:19+00:00

My guess is that you can follow instructions to the letter. Will it help if we recommend some really practical books that even tell you what signs to look for?

StatMeansNow · 2015-07-03T02:26:49+00:00

"by the book" you say? Try taking a look at this: http://westsidetoastmasters.com/resources/book_of_body_language/toc.html

I read the whole thing over the course of a couple weeks, and it changed a lot about how I viewed my social interactions. Gives a lot of insight on how to read people, and also how to make sure you're being 'read' by other people in the right way.

aRkadeFR · 2015-07-03T09:26:03+00:00

Hey, I read very carefully what you post, and I have couple of friends that had similar situation (not autism, but they couldn't read at all what people think or what they want). You seem sociable FMPOV, but not for the majority of people out there. So my two advice for seduction would be: - set the rule during the talk with a girl. For instance, be very clear that she can interrupt you, change of subject or just disagree. She will feel more confident and will lead the conversation. - mimic the person in front of you. Be careful of how the person moves, talks, change of subject, and try to always go the same way that she/he does.

Mikeymoto · 2015-07-03T10:29:11+00:00

Fake.. He used "advise" instead of "advice"••

samirahmad2594 · 2015-07-04T01:34:31+00:00

I'm sorry bra Autism sucks, but you can get over it. I know a dude whose like 50 he's autistic and has a wife and a kid. I don't think you should concentrate on gaming or game, just become an alpha male first then game then do whatever.

thisimpetus · 2015-07-02T15:18:16+00:00

"seduction" is a game of manipulation; it is literally about being artful and deft with social cues, ego & internal worlds.

On the other hand, it's also not about love, honesty, happiness, etc.. At heart, seduction treats other people as prey, even if it's with respect and conscience. Part (calm down guys, I said "part") of the thrill is simply in the chase and the victory, rather than in her company.

You might seriously consider that seduction, as an approach to gaining intimacy, might not be either as rewarding as it appears. Since also obviously not as accessible, it's worth considering that it's a moot point for you—irrelevant more than prohibited.

But this is from someone who takes a fairly feminist approach to seduction—I often think a lot of what gets posted to this sub is unhealthy for the young men engaging in it.

TL;DR: romance/intimacy and seduction aren't the same game, and the former might be more rewarding and more your speed.

Title	Autism and seduction
Author	rseductionweggooi
Upvotes	55
Comments	46
Date	July 2, 2015 2:54 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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