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[–]surferguy999 13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
1) Talking to and seducing women is a skill 2) Any skill can be improved with practice
1 and 2 are a lot easier if you have the foundational skills:
Each of the foundational skills can be built up individually.
[–]thetitan66 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Basically this entire sub in a paragraph
[+]LongLiveMacdre -7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
You can check each box of that list off, and women still wont have sex with you. Certain guys find this hard to believe, but it’s the truth. Some people were just dealt a bad hand in life.
[–]surferguy999 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Are you putting yourself in a position to succeed? Are you going on dates?
If you’re not having success it’s likely we can pinpoint a step in the date where things go downhill. Do you escalate? Flirt, etc.
Guys who struggle typical lack something that’s obvious to an observer.
[+]LongLiveMacdre -6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Theirs a lot of guys that can’t even get a first date, so there won’t be a chance for escalation or flirting that’s my point. I’ll tell you what they lack, Attractiveness plain and simple. The same way some guys say it’s not rocket science getting women, it’s not rocket science to understand that the opposite sex just doesn’t find them attractive and they will have very little to no success. Genetics are truly our predetermining factor to being able to mate.
[–]surferguy999 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Why do you think some ugly guys land hot women? What skill do you think they have that other similar looking dudes don’t?
Obviously being hot and attractive helps.
[–]LongLiveMacdre -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Most women date ugly guys because they know their undesirable and won’t have many competition when their with him. A lot of women are with these men because of what he can do/spend on her. She doesn’t have a real primal lust towards him, and the minute he can’t support her anymore or the guy she actually lust for is free, it’s all over. She will cheat without caring about the consequences.
[–]capedcod54 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Read models by mark mansen
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
So do you mean women tend to choose ugly guys just for the sake of lower competition anxiety?
[–]LongLiveMacdre 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yes
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
But without competition anxiety she will get bored and cheat anyway.
[–]LongLiveMacdre 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, cause she will always be chasing that man’s validation, and she realizes that he can easily do better than her. Women want a man other women want.
[–]elliottrackhe 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sad that there’s no sub listed for confidence ;(
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
thx bro this is sick
Your points are very concise. Appreciated !
[–]LeHeman 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Go find your limit instead of complaining with this bitch ass attitude. How do you know youre not gonna dunk if you dont try and reach your limit. And why does this feel like your just venting to the universe about someone selling fairytales, instead of replying to this one dude who triggerred you in the first place.
[–]LongLiveMacdre -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The basketball analogy is an example meaning if you were not born with the physical characteristics already (height) you literally physically won’t be able to dunk, that’s why you have never seen someone 5’2 do it. Similar with dating, the genetics are the predetermining factor in who will attract the opposite sex at high rates and who will rarely if ever attract the opposite sex. I’m venting cause I’m sick of the bullshit lies all these damn puas and dating coaches are putting out. Like how the hell can a man that’s 6’3 give advise to guys on how to get women and say all your flaws are in your head when he never has struggled with that issue in the first place? Society automatically writes a man that can’t get sex off as a weirdo, or gay. But refuse to think to themselves like “hey, their really are people that can’t attract the opposite sex”. But instead everyone blows smoke up each other’s ass in order to sell dating programs,smh.
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Well I hate to say that we all want to be the person who girls love and we wanna mold as per their preferences rather than staying true at our own core. Why you have to be someone else? Why you have to always think about the perfect line and word? Why you want to be with the girl who is just seeing an illusion of your personality that you made up after watching a video of a pickup artist titled "How to double your dating game"?
[–]stanthemilkman88 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What if yourself is an unattractive chode? Then you most definitely don't want to be yourself do you?
[–]RProgrammerMan 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I think there’s truth on both sides. Not a binary one side is right one side is wrong. If you practice basketball you can get much better than when you first started, often much better than you thought possible. But you can practice all day long and still you won’t be the next Lebron James because you don’t have the genetics. But it would be a shame to get discouraged because you’re not gonna be the next superstar.
[–]Hmmkey 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ok you win the victim trophy of the day 🏆 congratulations. On to another day of being a child. ✊🏻
[–]Alive-Doughnut2345 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Here’s the solution.
STOP PUTTING SEX ON A PEDASTAL
[–]LongLiveMacdre 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Explain?
[–]thelambofdeth -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The "just be yourself" chit is pure cope and helps no one.
[–]5_7pickup 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Theres so much platitude advice on the internet these days. Almost all of it is cope.
Men read platitude advice like be yourself and they feel good about themselves without any actionable changes in their lives.
Platitudes are useless. If you want to improve your dating life then you need to take real action.
And no going to the gym doesnt count. As if its that easy.
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[–]LongLiveMacdre -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But what type of chicks were giving you sex? Were they big like you? And this whole numbers game shit is dumb. A man is gonna approach 1,000 women in his small to medium city and get over 900+ rejections and still remain enthusiastic? I don’t think so. Also in your opinion what is considered an easy excuse to fuck if a women doesn’t find you attractive?
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Your version of reality depends on your beliefs!
So speak for yourself.
What have you done to improve?
Nothing…
It’s not about you.
Women don’t owe you sex. So if you want sex from women you need to add value to their lives.
I though the same before.
Then read dating books, videos, talked to some people and got sex.
Now I’m just trying to maximize my pussy potential by more self improvement.
Only losers think like the way your thinking now.
It’s not hard to have sex. Do your part of improving your social skills and your Gucci?
Or get a hooker if you look at women as sex objects..
[–]LongLiveMacdre 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude where you did hear me say women owe us sex? And you clearly just proved my point exactly. “Just improve your social skills and your Gucci” WRONG!
[–]tonstermits69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Negative af bro
Look at his post history. He fights with everyone lol on every sub
[–]tonstermits69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You lefties are unhinged af. Chill out
Lol I’m not a “lefty.” This is not a political sub at all lol
[–]tonstermits69 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your pry into my comments and start shrieking REEEEEEE. Fuck off mate
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
What? No, I was looking at the comment history of the guy you commented “Negative Af” for on this post because that guy has been fighting with tons of people on the subs I go on. Idk why you thought it was political lol this is not a political sub at all
Well, at least educate men to be able to get decent-looking girl, who is not crazy. Definitely not everyone is designed for regular hookups. Although, most of the cases is that men have completely no clue what women really like, and they have many harmful beliefs about the sexual relation. Also they are terrified of being turned down, which may always happen.
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