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[–]UoAPUA 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I'll tell you one thing, it's not attractive to them that you cover for them. Stop doing that. They're adults, they can pay their own cover charges. It's 2017, most places take card. If they don't, bounce to the next venue that doesn't have a cover. As for your money problems, do you have a job? If not, you'll want to get one. If you need suggestions of good flexible places to work, I can give some. Also, how's the game going for you? If i spend $50 on a night out, I'm getting numbers. If I get numbers, I'm going on dates (sometimes free). If I'm going on dates, I'm getting laid. So I might go out and spend $50 for some numbers, but the next few weekends are not costly because I'm advancing the relationships. Clubs and bars aren't the only places to take a date, they're not the only places to have fun, and they're not the only places to game. Take your dates to do other fun stuff, and try getting numbers at parties, bookshop, coffee shops, grocery stores, etc.
[–]Elderman 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One must be creative to have it all.
Coffee shop numbers have always been the easiest for me. Grocery stores are the worst.
[–]Pitchfork51 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah aside from having bottle service at the club I don't see how buying drinks and other shit for girls is a good look.
A round is fine every once in a while if you are having fun with a group and other people will get the next one.
Since uber I don't know if a girl I've met out or picked up or whatever has ever seen my car.
[–]throwitawayagainyay1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Thanks man, kind of interested in hearing about the places to work.
[–]Pics0rItDidntHapp3n 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
You need to do some homework. First find out where and when the happy hours and specials are in your town. Put them in your calendar on your phone, it can get confusing as the list stacks up. You need to find networking events, fundraisers, meetup groups women attend, etc. These events have free drinks plus you'll network like a motherfucker and maybe get a better job. Pull the women from these events and take them to the spots on your list. You can do that all week long relatively cheap as most people can't stay out late running up a tab on a work night. Next, find out about house parties or free events on the weekends. Take the women from the weekday events to the free weekend events. You'll save shit tons of loot. If you're a heavy drinker, buy a small bottle of booze to fit in your coat or back pocket, order 1 drink, top off in the bathroom very discreetly. There's a lot more tricks I can't think of right now but I hit a rough spot after the recession and went from a high paying job to budget baller very quickly. That's how I made it through the dry spell. I can't stress the after work networking groups enough. Wear a blazer or collared shirt at the very least. It's fish in a barrel at those things.
[–]lumberjack233 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
This one deserves karma, if you can write a post about these tricks, all the cheap motherfuckas like me will upvote like nothing else matters
[–]Pics0rItDidntHapp3n 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Been lurking a long time but been playing probably before reddit was around. I'll try to chime in more. This stuff has become second nature for me.
[–]lumberjack233 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
cheers!
[–]GeeOKeem 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
One of the best suggestions on here
[–]Pics0rItDidntHapp3n 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Because I actually answered OP's question.
Thanks, I think I know what you mean by networking events. I think conferences are probably a great place for that as well.
[–]techfronic 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can you explain how you would game up a networking event?
[–]Pics0rItDidntHapp3n3 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Go in without looking like your obviously trying to pull tail. Grab a drink, I like to drink and these things have free beer or booze 99% of the time. I guess having an interest in actual networking helps too. Work the room, find a chick that grabs your eye and chat her up. You'll get the vibe if she's interested or not. Everyone will ask what you do or what you want to be doing so have your back story straight ahead of time. If you're a broke dick with a shitty job then say you're saving up for Grad school or Law school, everyone respects that. Or you could say you just graduated college and looking if your age fits. If you have a cool title or great job already then awesome. Women look for security, stability and ambition. They want to nest and start a family, it's how they're designed. So go in there confident, have your story straight and start chatting them up. It's important to actually talk to everyone, don't be obvious. You'll see the other morons in there blowing out the room and the women pick up on it quickly. Talk to the guys, gain trust. Shit you might get a killer job contact. I've met goddamn mayors and major CEO's at these things. Anyway, if you meet someone and you hit it off, get them out of that room. You know the drill. This is where your list comes in to play. Get them to the next spot asap, preferably in walking distance. I always lived in downtown metro areas so it was never a problem. Take note of where they live, what side of town. You might not pull them that night but that weekend or whenever you meet again it would behoove you to have a place on your list near their house for convenience, affordability and efficiency. If you gotta drive far you lose that ether and they could get cold feet. Also, very important to not over work the room. There may only be a couple hotties and they may be too serious about the networking to want to flirt. You don't want to blow your cover, be smooth and go in light. There's a finesse to these events, no one is smashed and they don't know they're there to get fucked yet. Your particular event you attend may only have a long game opportunity available, no problem, long game it then. You might be slamming that chick you like weeks later or she may bring a friend to the next event and explain what a sweetheart you are. Dont fuck it up.
[–]speakstupidto-me 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
So true, I'm a girl and I've absolutely overheard other girls say things like "A date is free food!" or "Let's find a guy to buy us drinks" and it makes me so mad. One guy friend said he went to a club, a girl came up and started dancing with him. A bit later, she asks if he wants to go get a drink, and when they get there she pretty much tells him he should get it for her. This guy is SWEET and dopey as hell , so he's like, cool yeah I'll get it for her we've been dancing for a bit.
She gets the drink and (you all know where this is going) she turns to him when he tries to ask her about herself like what school she's at/what's she's studying/GENERAL CONVERSATION and she goes "oh, I just wanted a drink from you, I'm going back to my friends now bye". My guy friends not a bad looking guy, but because things like this have happened to him MULTIPLE times because he's nice, it's made him so wary of going out and meeting girls. I sympathize with him.
So yeah girls who "forget" money or try to play you for it is not a cute look at all. There's a difference between "forgetting" and physically just not carrying cash with you and so you could buy the person a drink or venmo them the money back. It's modern day, venmo is exactly for this purpose.
[–]atb504 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
my gf used to "forget" money for a while when we first started dating. it happened enough times that i gave it a name, 'pulling an ashley'. whenever she did it to me, id tell her she was 'pulling an ashley' again. whenever we were with people who pulled that shit, i would tell them they're 'pulling an ashley' right in front of her.
lets just say that 9yrs later, ashley no longer 'pulls an ashley'. ashley makes a lot more money than i do and pays for almost everything. maybe it worked.
[–]splendorinthegrass_ -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
While that is an annoying behavior if my bf named a negative behavior after me I don't think he'd be my bf anymore.
[–]UoAPUA 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not A negative behavior it's YOUR negative behavior.
[–]splendorinthegrass_ 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol yep got the concept thanks
[–]atb504 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
its simple, dont do the negative behavior regularly then that negative behavior wont be named after you. what made it worse is that she would offer to pay and conveniently 'forget' her wallet... again... for the fourth time, altho not necessarily consecutively. i liked her enough to keep her around, so i suppose its my fault for enabling her?
it reminds me of the movie Kingpin. funny stuff.
[–]greenidiot314 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't get in the habit of covering for a girl, even as little as $5. I had a friend once who didn't have a job, but she had no problem bugging people to buy her things like she was a little princess. One day it's a meal, the next day it's coffee, next it will be shoes and jewelry and you won't even be dating. She could just consider you a nice friend and you've wasted all that money thinking she will like you more, but can still just cut off all contact with you like a normal relationship but you can't do the same to your creditors.
[–]Woujo 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Something else I've noticed is girls often times "forget" to bring cash to cover themselves to clubs or events. It's like okay we're here but she's not getting in unless I pay.
This is what you do: you say "Ok bye, I hope you have fun in whatever you do." And go into the club. I guarantee that most girls will then "find" some money somehow. And if they don't, they will beg you to hang out with them at some other club that doesn't have a cover. If she doesn't want to hang out with you because you wouldn't pay her cover, guess what, she never liked you in the first place. A woman will move mountains to be with the guy she likes, so $5 shouldn't affect anything.
That is extremely attractive to a girl, and incredibly hard for most guys to understand and do, both intellectually and emotionally.
Let me explain: if you're a hot girl, you don't have much power in this world, like most people. You don't have much money, you don't have much power, you're not famous, etc... All you have is your looks, which aren't that valuable in of themselves because they are temporary and mostly fake. And a lot of girls are hot.
But their looks give them SOME power, which they use to their advantage. They get guys to buy them stuff, get them in clubs, hang out in cool places, do cool things, etc... And make no mistake, girls know that they are getting these things solely because of their looks because they have done nothing else to deserve these things. You're not paying her cover because you love her soul or anything.
Women also realize that they can get bend guy's wills to them solely by using their looks. They can make men do errands, buy them things, agree when they say stupid shit, etc... And they quickly realize that the more loserish guys are more willing to buy them things.
The most attractive thing you can do is say "no" when a girl asks you to pay because it sets you apart from the loser guys. It says to the girl "I'm not a pushover, I'm not desperate, and I will only interact with you as an equal adult, not as a supplicant." It also makes her think and feel like you have other girls in the mix, so her looks aren't as valuable.
Not paying is VERY HARD. I consider myself advanced and I still pay for girls sometimes because I just emotional and caught in the moment. But I can guarantee that it almost always makes them less attracted when you pay.
[–]zomgitsduke 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your attractiveness to a woman shouldn't be changed by how you spend your money.
Here's the big thing: your mentality determines how successful this will be. If a girl asks you to cover her, you can respond with "only if you help me find the hottest girl at the bar to come home with me". People often compete for "control" over the situation, and it will catch them off guard if you turn their attempt at control on its head. This puts you in Outcome Independence mode, and makes her second guess if you're even interested in her. Maybe you're using her to jump to a hotter girl? Maybe she's being played the whole time? Wedge your way into that insecurity and exploit it.
This works on everyone, not just women.
Oh, and if a girl "forgets" her money, a quick joke about her being the designated driver breaks any tension.
[–]raimondi1337 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, going out is expensive. The only time I'll ever pay for a girl is if I know I'm going to get it back immediately. No cash for the cover? That's cool, just put the first round of drinks on your card.
[–]Moldy_Gecko 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They do the I forgot cash thing to weed out chumps. Cheapest way, stick to social media and dating sites. If you want to do daygame or something, don't offer dinner or a club. My typical first date is meet at sbucks, walk to the arcade, play them Mario Kart and this scary ass 3d game, grab a quick, cheap bite before I tale them to the bar right under my apt. I usually split all but drinks, typically, I spend around 20-30 and that's the fancy date. Alternative is I teach them skateboarding and a walk on the beach before the bar.
[–]jwils007 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Do day game and/or net game. Much cheaper. And IMO don't spend mroe than $10 on a girl before you've fucked her.
[–]Heizenbrg 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I love this one, so simple to do yet often neglected. I guarantee you there would be less than half of the posts on how to get a girl if everyone just looked at every woman they want with the intention of fucking her, they be getting numbers on the way back of on the frggen subway. It's that easy I'd you think about it.
[–]UoAPUA 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely. A big noob mistake is creating a dichotomy in settings; one where you try to find girls to fuck and one where you don't. Of course there's places to not play the game, but that cute girl you made eye contact with at the grocery store? Go fucking talk to her!
[–]Heizenbrg 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
When is there no place to play the game?
[–]UoAPUA 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your job. The strip club. Hooters. Places where people are paid to be nice and fake smile towards you. The gym when you're skinny as fuck and should be focusing on getting strong and the girl has headphones on. Anytime someone's on the phone. Generally anywhere that would require you to express neediness because you'd rather be gaming than doing something that might benefit your goals and ambitions like the library when you or other people have an exam. Not everyplace or everytime is a good time to cold approach or even flirt. Realizing that is just being a socially adjusted human being, which incidentally is very important to being successful in seduction.
[–]sconosciuto11 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I've covered already 3 girls in the span of a month.
Did they at least give you some pussy?
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