Have gotten called creepy on several occasions, what is the deal with this?

CaliBboy · 2015-05-28T20:46:14+00:00

Probably due to not building rapport nor comfort before hand.

AnderAdams · 2015-05-29T00:04:18+00:00

I do not promote "kino" in it's traditional notions.

However, touch is critical in seduction. With that being said. Here are some of the top tips for avoiding the touch going down hill and being perceived as creepy:

1). Touch is ONE thread in many forms of connection. Creepy men typically put so much nervous emphasis on touching that they typically break all the existing threads of connection (the conversation, the eye contact, the general vibe and the connection to the environment around them, etc) to make room to actually touch the woman. I.e. the man will be in a decent conversation then he will suddenly stop talking (for a brief second), he'll break eye contact (any typically focus on where he is going to touch her) then he'll reach out and touch her... Make sure the moment of touch flows in with other threads of connection.

2). Don't look where you touch. Most men do this creepy thing (all within about 3 seconds) where they focus intently on where they are going to touch, then they touch there, there hand stays there as they look back up at the woman to see how she is responding, then they look back their hand as they remove it. Once again. The touch must flow amongst the other forms of connection.

3). Make the touch relevant. Sorry guys "smelling her hair" and "palm reading" don't seem relevant even when you pull it off smoothly. You don't need some reason or gimmick to touch her.

4). Just because she let's you touch her, doesn't mean she wants you to cling to her. Touch has a nice ebb and flow progressive feel to it.

5). Don't lean in when you are touching her (for beginners). Most men reach way out. For this reason we (the Vimbasi Warriors) say that you should keep your shoulders and head above your feet. Don't over extend.

6). Similar to 5. Don't extend your arm way out. Your touches should appear and feel relaxed. Extending cautiously and dramatically is not that. So as a rule for beginners: don't extend your arm to the point that your elbow moves more than 6 inches away from your torso. It should be a forearm extension more than a massive reach.

If any of you have questions. Feel free to message me directly.

Ander Adams - lead coach at the Vimbasi Warriors

killaswagyolo420 · 2015-05-28T21:04:08+00:00

There's probably not enough intent beforehand. That break in consistency can be creepy.

Another thing is your demeanor, your facial expression, body language, etc, is probably weak when you do it. And that weakness is pretty much always due to a lack of confidence.

razghoul · 2015-05-28T20:45:34+00:00

I've been recently promoting the anti-kino strategy. I think it may become a new movement in the seddit community.

Here's the deal: you can create emotions through touch. The problem is, they could be good or they could be bad emotions.

However, if you have great conversations with someone, being completely un-kino can be an amazing tension builder, because then the girl is unsure if you are attracted to her or just being friendly. Obviously this works better in situations that are more casual (i.e. If you're alone at a bar, it seems obvious why you're there).

I've had success with this a few times, and you build the relationship to the point of bursting, so that when you finally do initiate kino, it is like electricity to that girl. Every time I've done this, it's gone literally from no touching at all to sex within the hour.

It's really really hot. However, you need to be able to stand the tension and also be able to generate good energy through conversation.

prisonersandpriests · 2015-05-28T21:03:42+00:00

It's one of two things: You're either pushing the envelope way further and ignoring signs to back off, or you're unattractive.

EpictetustheWise · 2015-05-28T21:19:06+00:00

She isn't comfortable with you, she doesn't like you, you're awkward...etc...pick one because it could be any reason.

I honestly hate the concept of kino. It's so premeditated and why bother if it doesn't feel natural? You're obviously talking to girls, so that's a start but why try to rush your intentions by forcing a touch when she might not be ready for it? Not every approach has to end in a one night stand (or any for that matter). It is perfectly ok to take a longer term approach (long-term meaning getting to know her over days, through phone/text, setting up a date, etc.) and letting that tension build.

I do this for several reasons, mainly she becomes more comfortable with me because I am bringing her deeper into my world and she starts to see me more as the person I am and less as the guy (stranger) she just chatted with for five minutes at the bar. Secondly, touch isn't as seductive as speech...touch is like the coup de grace, that last step to send her over the edge...you have to mindfuck her first, then her body will open up to you. Keep talking, keep working on your presence, reading body language...even if you don't fucking close in the near term, you will get better at presenting yourself to girls.

Try to look at things from their perspective, you're probably bigger than them and can physically impose your will on them. That's an intimidating prospect in a girl's eyes, as your just some strange guy, that is touching her and that isn't necessarily what she wants. You have to change her perspective from being the stranger to being the guy she likes...so seduce her and put her at ease. This is my view of it anyways, after ten years: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XB2I8NU?*Version*=1&*entries*=0

PowerSeductionWar · 2015-05-29T01:10:01+00:00

do you do kino for the sake of doing kino or are you actually turned on when you do it?

johnnyboyfart · 2015-05-29T04:08:35+00:00

maybe you're doing kino on girls that are not receptive to your advances. do the same shit on the right girl and she'll be wet as a watermellon. so dont just blindly touch every girl you come across, only the ones that want that shit from you.

tamilgangster · 2015-05-29T11:46:57+00:00

Creepy can be alot of things, what one girl considers creepy another girl will consider hot. Its about the approach, some girls consider direct aggresive game to be creepy, while other girls consider, just sitting staring at her, waiting on her to hit on you to be creepy

Title	Have gotten called creepy on several occasions, what is the deal with this?
Author	shanebagel
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Date	May 28, 2015 8:24 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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