I'm interested in doing sets for the sake of getting rejected. Has anyone inadvertently had huge successes while trying to fail, simply due to the mindset involved?

VMikeL · 2012-05-11T07:02:32+00:00

I hear this from AFCs who think they're up and coming PUAs all the time, and I don't understand why you need this? If you seek to succeed, and get a good mixture of failures and successes, isn't that better than just going around getting rejected outright? Being able to do something confidently and well is better than knowing that you suck, and you're okay with it.

Scatman92 · 2012-05-11T06:32:55+00:00

Based on the question, it seems like you're telling yourself you're going out to fail, but you're secretly hoping that you will succeed. You need to change this. Really, REALLY, try to fail...HARD.

yokhai · 2012-05-11T13:13:09+00:00

All the fuck time.

I use to steal shit from Tucker max all the time and my friends get wild eyed when it works.

"Hey come sit on my lap. Why? So our crotches can get better aquatinted"

"I have VD and i will treat you like a second class citizen, wanna buy me pizza?"

"you don't want to dance with me, ill just throw up in your purse and steal your ATM card"

I stared a girl's left hand the entire conversation. At first she was confused, then pissed, then worried, then laughed it off like i was joking.

I have tons of stories of shit like this.

ThrowawayPUA · 2012-05-11T14:12:46+00:00

It's a waste of time, and even counterproductive. You will get rejected often enough while trying to learn the game, why should you try to get rejected? It is easy to establish patterns and if you try to get rejected, you can establish a pattern of rejection. Also, this breaks the concept of outcome independence. You're going out with a preplanned outcome in mind, even if it is failure.

Instead, go out with total outcome independence. As I often say, this does not mean you "don't give a fuck" so you can do Tucker Max shit and be an asshole because you don't care what people think. Outcome independence means you do your best and let the outcome happen. If you take care of your actions, you know the results will take care of themselves.

So I went out with the "rejection desensitization" plan of doing a thousand approaches with total outcome independence. If I got rejected, it didn't matter as long as I was working on my game. After a while I started enjoying the rejections as much as the successes, since I was always learning, or at a minimum, I could think "oh yeah that again LOL."

2012-05-11T12:40:05+00:00

I've done this. It works to an extent, but it gets to the point where they'll actually get attracted and you won't realize it because you're too busy trolling.

RedErin · 2012-05-11T14:14:13+00:00

Rejection Therapy. It's good if your AA is really bad. All social interaction will help you impove your social skills.

baaaark · 2012-05-11T19:13:48+00:00

This is an ADVANCED concept. Be careful what you wish for. It takes a STRONG man to get beaten down repeatedly by women and still be left standing. You'll feel like a boss if you don't let them get to you, but if one of them says something a certain way and it gets in your head, then what have you accomplished (or better yet, what have you torn down)?

I think putting your best foot forward is always the best advice, but I'm pretty simplistic about a lot of this game strategy on here.

sniperhiding · 2012-05-11T22:10:16+00:00

So basically, using football as a metaphor, intentionally trip yourself when you get the ball, or just drop the ball?

texture · 2012-05-11T13:19:52+00:00

Yeah, the rejection game is great.

Title	I'm interested in doing sets for the sake of getting rejected. Has anyone inadvertently had huge successes while trying to fail, simply due to the mindset involved?
Author	cuppajoe123
Upvotes	17
Comments	17
Date	May 11, 2012 6:02 AM UTC (14 years ago)
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