Is game dead for the average man?

Rhayx · 2019-04-24T11:22:33+00:00

Game is a skill. Means everyone can learn it. Looks can give you an advantage but nothing more. A guy who looks good can still be super bad with girls and also an ugly guy can get a beautiful girl. Anyway looks won't help you when you don't believe in yourself and think your an underachiever. Your actions define you , that's it now go out!

burukuki · 2019-04-24T10:26:09+00:00

I think, like you said, you need to be at least a 7 for game to become “easier”. The average man can still be successful though and can always become a 7+ with self-betterment.

nonxmonoxwhatevs · 2019-04-24T15:23:11+00:00

Male attractiveness is primarily behavioral. You get to be a 7+ through your attitude, emotional energy, and self-regard.

olronk · 2019-04-24T12:25:43+00:00

If I was average I'd definitely be giving it a shot.

Being below average myself I've made it a goal to improve myself and get to a point where I can meet women's standards.

Going on 4 years now for self improvement. Lots of success in pretty much every facet of life except for being attractive lol.

Still very much below average and still haven't had a woman consider me attractive.

I'm sure for average guys there is definitely a chance though.

401kisfun · 2019-04-25T23:26:36+00:00

Shit lol I’m replying out of compassion- look I am not good looking at all. I also have zero game. But I’ve been with women or have been in situations with women where I could have fucked them really easily or I have. I was picked over the better looking guy twice in my life. I’ve hooked up friends with girls who didn’t really care because they have done it so many times on their own. If I have done it once, so can anyone else, I am NOT an expert or guru , and so can you. And I appreciate the sentiment of trying your hardest and feeling like it’s never enough. But there is something you are not doing right, there always is. I mean it’s correctable and there is hope. Right now, in your prior post, you are just listing off all of your accolades, they are very commendable, but that isn’t the same as demonstrating high values to a woman. You refer to yourself as a good conversationalist, and you said that doesn’t help with women. That is very incorrect, and I got laid with a real hottie SPECIFICALLY because she dug my spoken game. And two, you are just saying it, I don’t know that you really are a good conversation IRL. Kind of like a guy saying he has a good sense of humor but doesn’t make anyone laugh busting their gut at a social gathering. If you are referring to just getting a date and you can’t pull that off at least once then you aren’t demonstrating high values that trigger initial interest to a woman, no matter your other accomplishments. If you did, then you would have gotten a date by now. I’ve been there too. One guy I knew, a professional, drove to some small town 3 hours hours away from where we live. He would wear a suit at dive bars in this town, specifically because he knew no guys there did that, they were all blue collar, and it stood out and it triggered initial interest that led to conversation, dates, and fucking. I have another friend who tried to pretend he was a bouncer at Chip and Dale shows. He would work out a ton before the event and year round. He liked older women, they would see him at the show wearing a tight shirt, feel him up, and that’s how he triggered their initial interest and got laid. I had another friend whose whole game was social. He knew every single bar and their staff in town and would always invite a bunch of people every time he went out. Everything he met a girl he instantly named common people, places, and interests, and never forgot it (people love when you remember their name, profession, and personal interests the first time you hear it). He also made sure he met girls at a bar next to his house, so it’s an easy segue back to his pad. Hell, even my dumbass has brought girls I just met back to my house more than once because my house was right up the street from the bar following good conversation. None of these guys would make the front cover of GQ. But you can see from here examples of guys creating opportunities to trigger initial interest, catering to a certain demographic, and for dates to happen, by actively demonstrating certain values. Again, you can dismiss everything I have said, say you have tried it all, or you can really examine exactly why such an accomplished person isn’t getting dates without the negative self-talk about your face, and try to correct it. Up to you.

Title	Is game dead for the average man?
Author	OnixPrime
Upvotes	3
Comments	28
Date	April 24, 2019 10:13 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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