Is RSD a scam?

dalecooper56 · 2018-11-25T15:57:04+00:00

IMO forget about RSD. Do not consider for a second spending on bootcamps or products. As for their free content, RSDtyler has some good free videos.

I'd recommend Todd V though. Used to be in RSD but had an infamous breakup with them.

Seddit_Only · 2018-11-25T15:31:38+00:00

You dont need RSD bootcamp. There's nothing you cant learn from their old videos.

As long as their free content is still on YouTube, that's all you need.

Twobithatter · 2018-11-25T17:15:04+00:00

Like someone else said, check out Todd valentine on YouTube. His videos are straight to the point and good. Rsd, to me at least, is always just 20 minutes worth of crap for their 2 minute tip

ntipz011 · 2018-11-26T09:47:28+00:00

From what I read, they have some good teachers, and some bad teachers.

Most of their new (obviously free) content is directed to marketing.

They used to release useful practical videos, especially Tyler, when they were still kind of learning game themselves. Im talking about 4-5 years ago at least.

They are actually good at game, if that's your question. Watch their (old) infields and you will have plenty of exemples. Now they are also very good at marketing.

But remember, Luke sucks and is there only to attract the fat guys' market.

2018-11-26T23:01:13+00:00

The best product is The Natural by RSDMax. I studied that course day in and day out and got great results. I can hold eye contact comfortably and talk to women pretty easily. It's not rocket science but there's a lot of inner work you have 2 do.

tgod1811 · 2018-11-25T17:11:57+00:00

They overcomplicate game to sell products

BestOfPUA · 2018-11-26T01:41:40+00:00

There was a similar thread about RSD few days ago. I typed following there:

I have been in PUA for 10 years. I met few RSD head instructors and employees. I have never met a single RSD instructor, coach, or employee that put the success of their client above their pay check. Whenever I met them in person, it was all about pressure sales techniques, empty promises, and lies. Sometimes they even tried to sell more products to their clients in the middle of their bootcamp! Also, if you didn,t know this, RSD is the worst reviewed PUA company. They have a lot more bad reviews than other PUA companies and their clients had the least success among any PUA school of thought that I have seen.

Think about it like this. If you ask an RSD instructor a question he has 2 options. He can tell you answer A which will help you succeed or B which will make them money. I'm very confident that RSD will choose answer B 8 out of 10 times!

Combine this with the fact that most of their videos on YouTube are very manipulative, I have no respect for them. If you didn't know, RSD is know for approaching 10s, sometimes 100s, of girls. Trying some never proven, never worked before dumb shit, failing 99% of the time, then uploading the only time this worked to YouTube, and making it seem like their dumb shit works all the time because of their "confidence".

They are also known for approaching very drunk girls, that are waiting for Uber, after the club closes, making some dumb joke to get cheap giggles, making them take 5 steps in front of the camera, and selling this to lots of virgins as "close". Every single person, who is good at game, has social intuition, knows the club culture, and has experience with dealing drunk girls after the club closes know that none of those girls are attracted to said RSD instructor. They are just fooling around until their Uber shows up and RSD instructor here is the dancing monkey. Yet, RSD markets those videos as good game to a lot of naive guys!!!

Some time ago there was a very similar thread like this. Someone else typed following to explain why he hated RSD and why he would never learn from them:

lost integrity
lying and not telling the full truth
overdose with marketing
care only about sale and money
manipulate and create brainless "cult" culture (any questioning of them is responded with aggression or making a fool of you)
use teachings that are not confirmed by field expierience or anything, just bunch of woo-woo
targetting mainly naive 20's +/- youngs man

PrideInIndividuality · 2018-11-25T16:48:11+00:00

RSD is the best pick up company out there. You should watch old videos of Julien. They're not available, but you gotta find them somewhere.

blindwombat · 2018-11-25T20:57:54+00:00

The way Strauss describes it in "The Game" RSD is a business pure and simple.

They bring out course after course after course, and it's no different to red caps and yellow caps in The Wire.

Their customers are essentially the lonely male looking to get laid, or worse the guy who has become so obsessed with pickup that the old tricks don't work and need something new.

You're going to get a talk, a Q&A session in an environment where your motivation to try is basically "you've paid to be here" with the added bonus of the Tony Robbins group mentality.

In all honesty Tyler/Owen's 10 year revelation video is all you need to watch in terms of RSD content, the most important lesson being "if you go out you will meet girls". If you can't get to that stage, where you can go out and having a meaningful conversation with a complete stranger... then you need help that is not going to be provided by any sort of program.

A_solo_tripper · 2018-11-26T01:35:25+00:00

Haven't seen them put out any typical field reports. I think they are great marketers.

UncleWarwick · 2018-11-25T18:49:45+00:00

If you have the cash, go for it. It’s a fun experience and could prove to be really helpful for you.

It’s a huge mixed bag of where you’re coming from to begin with, but at the same time there’s a lot of different things that can be taken from it regardless of where you’re at.

DarkArtsPUA11 · 2018-11-25T21:11:35+00:00

not a scam. i believe they genuinely want to get guys laid. problem is that their methods suck. i would not recommend them. learning pick up and learning how to effectively fuck girls is something that YOU find the answers to on your own. anyone who really knows how to 10x your current results sure as shit would not be sharing that unless you pay them a whole lot of money

Title	Is RSD a scam?
Author	Arr18
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Date	November 25, 2018 3:16 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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