So I've been around reddit for quite some time, and browse Seddit quite often from my normal account, but rarely comment here and never post here. But I just had a conversation with a friend of mine and thought some of you might find it interesting.

We've all been there. Towards the end of the night/date/whatever, and you and your girl are drunkenly/soberly making out/groping/what have you. You suggest that the two of you should go somewhere a bit more private (or public if that's your thing), and continue to have your fun, only to be met with protests of "I don't think we should," or "I don't know you well enough," or whatever other excuse she can come up with because she doesn't want to feel like a slut.

Now I know standard protocol is to freeze them out or whatever. And I get that and I'm sure it works well, but I've never done it. I'm not sure why, it's just never occurred to me as something to do. Probably because I'm fairly aggressive and rarely wait to get a girl over to my house before I'll start getting physical with her. It almost always starts out somewhere public with me.

Anyway, every time I've been met with this resistance, I've used some variation of the following. I stop kissing them, don't plead or beg, just look the girl dead in the eyes and say

"You've already decided you're going to fuck me, so really, why deny both yourself, and me the fun?"

I've phrased it more ways than I can think of, and it's only failed me once. In my opinion, it shows a shitload of confidence, and lets both your and her perception of the entire night hinge on her decision.

As a side note, I generally make sure to steer the conversation towards sex at least a couple of times throughout the date, and almost always mention that I don't care or judge a girl for sleeping with me on the first date, as we're both adults and can make adult decisions, and sex is just good adult fun, akin to grabbing a few drinks, only naked and a lot more enjoyable. I think that may help things down the line when getting met with resistance.

Anyway, thoughts? Although I don't really consider myself a PUA, I like to browse here as although I think there's a lot of crap, there are definitely some not horribly hard to find gems laying around in this community. Over the last 2 years or so I've done my fair share of picking up women and am presently looking for something more stable and long term, but I've still got the PUA "mindset" in many aspects. Just curious to hear what other Sedditors think about this.