Please rate my conversation openers/pickup lines

OpinionThink481 · 2025-11-24T04:19:15+00:00

You got basically no game at all.

There is no "man to woman" frame in any of this, it's all "admirer to fan" frame here, which is not seductive.

This is the vibe that a celebrity would get when a fan interacts with her in the street. No connection, no sexual tension at all, and just boring impersonal elevator-like conversation that ends up being forgettable and doesn't show any unique personality at all.

You shouldn't be telling girls that you are lucky to meet them or that their boyfriend is lucky to have them. You should not also say things like "I did not mean to come on so strong or can i please start over" (get another chance) when she blows you off or guilt trip them with stuff like "i thought people here were friendlier".

And since your intentions is hitting on them, you should not be saying that you want to make friends. Be honest. Because women can tell when the guy has an agenda behind his apparent "friendly" intentions.

And they respond better if you were just honest about the fact that yes you are hitting on her because you are a man who goes for what he wants and won't be apologetic about it or second guess himself or play it safe.

As for the hob, just say your job, I work at a company as a technical analyst" for example. No need to mention the company name unless she asks in which case you say it briefly and change topics without acting like you are self aware how cool it is.

And no need to do all that stuff about "i don't want to use the company name to make myself look cool" because it's just so on the nose. Sounds like you are baiting her to ask you which company, precisely to make yourself look cool which means shows her you are not congruent.

As for lines like this one: "Okay, before you start to suspect I might actually be jobless or poor haha, I've been at XYZ, which means i do quite all right" You are being performative and trying to score points. It shows you are seeking her approval, trying to impress her, which is not how seduction works.

So what if she thinks you are poor? Just because you do all right doesn't mean she is any more likely to be interested in you, let alone when she can feel your desperate need for approval behind the words.

It's obvious you want to use your job as a way to score a big point, and that mentality puts you in a "please like me, please choose me" frame where she is the judge, you are the participant and are hoping for a verdict which is not how seduction happens at all, and it certainly destroys any "man to woman" vibe and creates a "contestant-judge" vibe instead.

You are not there to score points or to convince her to choose you, you are there to see if she is worth your time, to see if you like her personality and to screen her, not to be the one being screened by her. You are trying to impress her, when seduction is and attraction only happens when she feels the impulse or desire to impress you.

Budget-Kick822 · 2025-11-24T04:35:44+00:00

Don't ask how are you as an opener. Get to the point

Don't frame her as some girl who gets hit on a lot. Don't frame yourself as lucky to be talking to her. You're pedestalizing for no reason

Don't ask where shes from. Cold read instead. "I can tell youre not from here. You look like youre from ____" is much better.

Asking for recommendations is ok, because pivoting from recommendations to "we should do that together" or "oh you dont have any go to spots, let me show you some of mine?" is good. But you need to have reached the hook point before moving onto this or you won't get compliance.

You want to be playful and mysterious when asked about your job if it's a boring corporate job or a job that isn't inherently interesting. Bragging about what you do lowers your value. Telling her about about why youre passionate about what you do is interesting.

Don't fear shit tests. Girls give shit tests when theyre intrigued but aren't sure. Being shit tested is not a bad thing if you can pass the shit tests. That said, I have a bf/I have to go are often not shit tests. You likely didn't do enough to get her interest/ shes not interested.

Almost all of your shit test responses are really bad. The "i dont think id be interested in your bf" is the only good one. I'd suggest looking up how to solve shit tests. Also look up the concept of a false time constraint.

Lastly, having good "canned" lines is useful. But you should understand what the purpose behind those lines are so you can deliver them more naturally and so you can come up with something similar on the spot that serves the same purpose but fits the conversation better.

ImpossibleWaiting · 2025-11-24T04:39:22+00:00

This is totally hookless and value-taking. If you're very attractive it can work, but it's boring. In the beginning you should only be talking about the girl and that talking should have a frame of teasing. You put her in a box she doesn't want to be in and make her work on getting out of that box. After she's hooked and interested in the conversation, you turn into rapport building and begin slowly switching into her talking more and more by asking open ended questions until it reaches a 30-70 or at least a 50-50 ratio.

Then the open might look like this, focusing on delaying the information about her: Heeey, hellooo... Listen... I must go soon, but... I just saw you and... I had to say... You look like... Hmmm... You look like... a little squirrel (can be any other animal or stereotype depending on her looks)... (laugh due to genuine self-amusement) your cheeks... they are very cute... are you sure there aren't any nuts in there?

The squirrel is the box, and she will try to get out of this box due to your tease. It's also somewhat sexual, so as you talk and feel like you need to spike the hook a bit, you can say "I've got to check" and touch her cheek and just hold it and say "no nuts after all... yet..." You should have escalated before this by touching her hands or palms. This is quite a sexual frame so if you're a beginner then skip the "yet" part the first few interactions you do it.

Finally, realize that you're not approaching her to make friends. You approach her to have sex with her. You're a sexual predator and there's no denying that. Surprisingly, this is good news. Unlike males who want to avoid the alpha, girls have fear tingles when an alpha is talking to them. You can get acquainted with the most popular dating games for girls or read a few romance books and there will always be a moment of showing the guy off as a sexual threat that makes the reading girl screaming in excited joy or gasping in shock. In real life you can do a more subtle version on that that realies on heavy eye contact. Most of your flirting will be done through eye contact. One moment you'll be looking at her with a smug smile, then you'll give her a few dead-pan "I want you" sexual looks.

This is where you need experience to calibrate yourself. First time I did this the woman I was talking to told me that she feels like a little prey with me. This is good because she was older (and attractive) and I didn't want her to think of us as friends. I wanted her to know I see her as a potential hookup. But her words put me a bit off the rails because I didn't realize that girls are this sensitive to it since I only did it for like 20-30 seconds while she was talking. It just reaffirmed to me that I'm going in the right direction with this. Make the girl feel that you want her even just for a little bit. Give her that quiet excitement of talking to a well-calibrated yet sexual man.

A lot of women would rather share a successful man than stay with a faithful loser. Keep that in mind and decide who you want to be.

Virtual_Ad_4817 · 2025-11-24T19:37:30+00:00

I try to manage my approach anxiety by just being over-prepared with some opening lines / threads of how the conversation might flow.

The moment I read this I knew you were doomed bro lol.

My advice to you is not to prepare at all. Throw yourself into the conversation and let your gut direct you. Most men are cut off from their gut by early childhood experiences/schoolteachers reprimanding you/etc. It makes you want to filter what you say because you've been taught your authenticity isn't enough.

But evolution built your gut feelings into you because they are actually the most attractive thing when you display them to women.

Say whatever is on the top of your head with no filter. When you're unashamed of how you're perceived and being authentically you, that's truly the most attractive thing to women.

It's the same reason "planning out" all those gimmicky responses to shit tests won't work. The REASON women shit test you in the first place is to figure out if this is really the authentic you, or if it's an act. And when you respond with an act, you fail the shit test.

Women have higher social acuity than men do. They can tell when you're planning everything out. Trust me.

Inevitable_Branch720 · 2025-11-25T03:03:25+00:00

Very very basic. I advise you to switch your mindset from "what do i say" to " how do I get her to emotionally commit?"

Also replace some of these questions by monologues.

Finally you need a plan a structure. No clue why guys think they can just freestyle their way into some pussy with a few lines. You need a system.

Title	Please rate my conversation openers/pickup lines
Author	etherLabsBeta
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Date	November 24, 2025 2:30 AM UTC (8 months ago)
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