"She’ll accept the value proposition you’re offering at the start, whatever the form. The guy sets the frame, and it’s hard to change once in place."

lavasca · 2017-08-16T01:45:57+00:00

As a woman, I must fundamentally agree. If a man approached me in a platonic way that how I'd always see him. If he was unclear at the beginning [ and especially if he soon says or does something offensive] he'll never be anything other than platonic. Not showing clear romantic/sexual interest is a fail if he has interest in me.

Make it easy for me to know where you stand. I'm hanging out with you for recreation. Don't make me analyze what your motives are. Be clear from jump.

I also agree with /u/homegrownturnips. You have to maintain your looks no matter what. It isn't just for being attractive. I find it a way to keep my spirits up and monitor health.

ForeignInUsA · 2017-08-16T06:32:51+00:00

Completely agree dude. I've been going through similar thinking myself meeting girls that are very "innocent" but then turns out they were sexually oppressed for guys not knowing how to treat them to get them aroused and most of all experience you. All this random bullshit, buying expensive dinners, spending a fuck ton of money is just this external shit that gets in the way of you and her experiencing each other.

One of the best dates I had was eat a quick appetizer and then go and play in the park, literally like 5 year olds. Sex was just the next step after that.

Sandvicheater · 2017-08-15T23:20:03+00:00

We talking about seduction or sales? Then again what's the difference

Meggarea · 2017-08-16T12:39:37+00:00

He's absolutely not wrong, but this is true of people in general, I think. The most successful people in life make their intentions clear from the start. I will freely admit that I respond to men based on their approach. If a dude wants to be my friend, awesome! We can be friends! If he approached with a "relationship" vibe, that's the level I'd deal with him on. Same with a straight up "hey baby, let's fuck" approach. The guy in question would not necessarily be successful (as in the case of the guy who actually said, hey baby let's fuck as his greeting), but his approach definitely dictates what level I deal with him on.

lavasca · 2017-08-16T13:28:40+00:00

I like this suggestion a lot.

Title	"She’ll accept the value proposition you’re offering at the start, whatever the form. The guy sets the frame, and it’s hard to change once in place."
Author	Denver_Luv3
Upvotes	196
Comments	25
Date	August 15, 2017 9:17 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/6tx9rx/shell_accept_the_value_proposition_youre_offering/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/seduction/shell-accept-the-value-proposition-youre-offering.1432070 https://theredarchive.com/post/1432070

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