Three quick questions

Makakka2002 · 2017-08-06T21:31:13+00:00

1) Headphones mean nothing. Instadated a girl with headphones on last weekend. You just talk to her. When she takes the headphones off asking "What?" you repeat.

2) The café game is expert game I dont touch. I do street, supermarket and shop game but café game is too hard for me. One factor indeed is you never know if she waits for or is with someone in the café.

3) You dont need to do café game if it is too hard for you.

You need to do more sets more sets more sets.

recyclablebanthas · 2017-08-07T03:21:12+00:00

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1) when a girl has headphones in how do you go up to her and talk to her? Does headphones in automatically mean she doesn't want to speak to anyone ?

There's no rule for this. Stop looking for certainty. All you can do is play ANY interaction by ear.

How to talk to her? Go up to her and talk to her. But this massively over-simplifies the situation.

So much communication is non-verbal; There are many ways to establish if she has openness or lack of openness to interacting with the people around her. Eye contact. Body language; body facing, the way she has her head turned, etc.
Besides observing her, you can also use non-verbal openers when the girl has headphones on. Check her for eye contact. Smile. Wave. And so on.
So before you even talk to her, there is plenty you could do to "pre-qualify" her level of interest in interacting.

The biggest thing is to keep a good balance between a good attitude about yourself, and respect for the possibility that she may NOT want to interact. Headphones are a pretty commonly used prop for people who don't want to talk to others around them. Hell, I use them for that.

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2) if a girl is say on her phone in a cafe, do you want to make eye contact with her before you chat with her ? This has happened to me today I literally was getting up to walk over to talk to a girl when her boyfriend walked into the cafe and sat with her.

"Game" is not different in its core nature, no matter where you are.

Paying attention is always key.
Being ready to make adjustments based on feedback you're getting from the people you are interacting with, is always key.

With this in mind, would you walk up and interrupt a conversation someone is having, whether that person is on the phone or talking to a person who's there? It can vary. Getting eye contact first would be good. But in general, if someone is talking to someone else over the phone, it's most likely going to be considered a little rude to jump in.

Also, your example doesn't make sense. You're talking about a girl who's on the phone and you were going to go talk to her, but then her BF came in. That issue isn't really about the phone then, is it? It's almost more about trying to figure out if a girl is waiting for a BF or just by herself?

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3) How not to be afraid of the above situation happening? I'm talking to a girl and her boyfriend walks in. I'm really afraid of this happening.

You could get hit by a car. You could robbed at gunpoint. You could be attacked by a shark at the beach. Is it worth your time to worry about scenarios that might not even happen?

For that matter, it's worth examining your assumptions about what you're doing. You seem to think that all your talking to girls is seduction, which you assume means that, when you talk to a girl, everyone knows you're looking to insert your penis into their vagina. Like, if you're talking to her, you're already wanting that. I say to you, you're jumping WAY too far ahead.

"Seduction" is just socializing. That's all it is, at its core. You're using the core skills of "seduction" when you talk to an old lady at the grocery store. Or when you talk to a dude. Knowing this, I have no issues if I'm talking to a girl and her BF comes up. I start talking to him, too. And if he thinks I'm only talking to his GF because I want sex, then he's immature and will make himself look ridiculous. So to sum up, here are some different ways to look at all this:

Seduction is just socializing.
Socialize with everyone, men, women, etc. Don't confine yourself to interacting with women you want to bang. Making connections with people leads to more fun. On that note, talk to the people who work in a place and befriend them. Ask them about their day, etc. (And I recommend you don't pursue such people; having them on your side as a social connection can be so much more valuable. They can let you know about events, introduce you to female friends, etc.)
Don't assume you want to bang a girl just because of her exterior. Why should a girl get a free pass when you don't? People are total packages, not simply the sum of their appearance. If you grant a girl a free pass just because she has a banging body, you're rewarding her for something superficial that she doesn't have complete control over. And you're feeding into a system that leads to entitled people going around assuming that they be asshats because they "look pretty." Some of the ugliest people I've ever known, were pretty on the outside. Some of the worst sexual experiences I've ever had, were with "hot chicks."

Reddithian · 2017-08-06T20:01:02+00:00

Suddenly: God!

stylerTyler · 2017-08-07T01:20:37+00:00

Forget about the headphones. If you want to talk to her just walk up to her and talk.

It's foolish to approach a girl at a coffee shop or restaurant because chances are she's waiting for somebody.

letsriseup · 2017-08-07T02:42:47+00:00

1) I go direct. "Hi, you're really cute..." That's as far as I plan. I don't care what happens next because that's out of my control. I've been through many situations that I'm comfortable with using this opener in a variety of situations.

As a heavy user of headphones (love getting energized to music I like), I know what goes through the mind. There are times I actually don't mind being approached and am in a social mood, but I like vibing to music so I still put on the headphones. Similar to the girl. Some of my best reactions came from girls with a serious face + headphones on. So there you go.

2) I use the same thing as above. Yes, it can be good to assess the situation to see if she's taken, but I don't follow this every time (skip to 3 below to find out how I deal with those situations). When you're using learning wheels, it may help to tailor your approach to the situation. When you're confident (and been rejected enough times you start becoming numb) you just go straight up & tell her she's cute. You'll have the skills by then to calibrate appropriately afterwards.

I don't care about eye contact at this point. I've gotten good & bad reactions from eye contact or none I feel it is irrelevant.

3) I've approached a wife (didn't know) sitting alone by the pool & her husband came later. I even knew he was coming, but just continued sitting there to see what would happen. I kept a normal vibe & was prepped to just be friendly & defuse any situation if necessary. We all ended up having a good time & they bought me jello shots. The game can be quite adventurous sometimes haha. I'd emphasize on just being "normal" & "friendly" in those situations.

But I've also approached a girl who's boyfriend was just in front of her. I couldn't confirm so I had to do the approach. Well, it was confirmed & they simply continued walking. But if he got angry, I'd just give them a "you two look a great couple" kind of compliment and let them get on their way.

Yes, this stuff is HARD. I was in your shoes before & the stuff I've done even makes me think twice sometimes. But the interesting thing is I didn't really have to get all-out fear to get to those situations. I advanced progressively & pushed myself a little more everytime to the point that those situations became within reach of my comfort zone.

Good luck.

DaygameCoach · 2017-08-07T03:19:59+00:00

Open her. She will probably turn them off or remove them.
I don't usually approach women who are speaking on their cell phone. If they are typing (texting, whatever), I do open them.
Oh, nothing to be afraid of. I usually just say hi and include him in a convo a bit before moving on. As long as his girl doesn't seem to be in trouble, you should be fine.

ThePUA_Baddie · 2017-08-07T13:16:03+00:00

1) it depends. headphones are commonly associated with people not wanting to be bothered. you can still approach these girls, just don't be surprised if they don't give you attention and walk off. the way you approach is the same as any other set, walk with and say hi, then say your opener

2) eye contact is never necessary before you approach. if you see a girl you like, go for her. if she's on the phone then it varies, same with the headphones scenario. you can still approach but again don't be surprised if she gives you no attention and walks off

3) if i approach a girl and the boyfriend walks in i usually eject shortly after. my philosphy has always been to hit on and pick up single chicks. if a girl tells me she has a boyfriend i usually just eject right after. same if a guy walks into set. is this the most optimal way to handle the situation? who knows. in my opinion, trying to fuck girls who tell you they have a boyfriend is an uphill battle. it's better if she just doesn't tell you in the first place and you manage to pull it off.

2017-08-06T20:43:09+00:00

1) If you are really really good looking it won't matter if she has headphones.

2) Awkward.

3) Expect a beatdown.

Title	Three quick questions
Author	younglad2016
Upvotes	7
Comments	12
Date	August 6, 2017 7:56 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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