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[–]SirYouAreIncorrect83 points84 points85 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I would remove Emotional Support from the Both and put in Women only....
[–]debanked37 points38 points39 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Status could be removed as it rare that a women brings the status. And sex, that goes too in time
GYOW
[–]notyourdude20113 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Actually Both is completely greyed out once the items in the "Women" list are obtained.
Both happens when a girl is trying to form a relationship, not when a relationship is already formed.
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[–]Natsume242 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Which generally makes other women attracted to you.
Which basically still benefits women.
[–]rumblepony2472 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ya, we're made to feel embarrassed nowadays for moments of weakness. Sad
[–]anduxo32 points33 points34 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Emotional support is a tricky one. Men are not supposed to talk much about their emotions. That should be 70% on women's side, and the rest on both.
I'd add companionship to both though.
[–]strongandhappy12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Not companionship, company.
[–]NohoTwoPointOh5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kudos to you sir! There is a marked difference between the two.
[–]shun231113 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
White Knighting is the most beta thing you can do
[–]amer215[S] 5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, but black knighting is like MGTOW on a higher level
[–]shun23114 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Remind me, what's black Knighting? Is it black pill?
[–]amer215[S] 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yea It's a black pill, It's like the pill that you take and everything is sad and you're angry at the world.
[–]TGS9633 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Red pill is better
[–]amer215[S] 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes, the red is the best, better than the blue, purple, black and maybe others that we don't know about yet.
[–]IDDQD4Life3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe we should use "green pill" for guys like Dick Proenneke who just says fuck it and goes to live in the woods.
[–]Mikejonz1112 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We should just put all Betas in one city and Alphas in another lmao
[–]80173511 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
"But but men work harder and are more productive and that's beneficial for her and society! Children deserve it!"
[–]amer215[S] 9 points10 points11 points 7 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
The government is helping women by using their pussy pass and making men work and pay taxes, once men go on strike and revolt calling it sexist the government would either listen and half ass "try" something or attack men, by men going on striake the government would have no money and women would have no money to use.
[–]8017353 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
by men going on striake the government would have no money and women would have no money to use.
Ummmm, not sure about anybody with guns running out of money...
[–]amer215[S] 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, guns are a tool for defence and offence, no money being taken in means no money to spend in a few years.
[–]8017353 points4 points5 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Meh, just increase that non-printed number until someone loses their mind and declares war because unsustainable.
Send men to pew pew for a while, reduce the problem, restart the cycle again. To cherry on top of the cake, write whatever you want and call it history.
It's all just a little bit of history repeating.
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Guns only matter in the short term really.
Think of it like this, if the government started attacking bachelors, what would bachelors do?
Unite, arm themselves (which is far easier then you think) and overthrow the government (which may end up worse for the men depending on who they empower to lead them, but it will always be worse for the government). With more and more people joining the rebellion as they watch the government kill innocent men.
As ultimately, the side with the most men is the side that is going to always win in the end.
That is why governments never rely on weapondary to control the population (they use it, but do not rely on it). They rely on lies, privileges, wealth, sex, ignorance and/or propaganda to convince large chunks of the population to support them instead. So if a segment does rebel or protest, a just as large (if not larger) group will rise to defend the government.
[–]8017351 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Umm, agreed about the "short term", but iirc there were purges in history where trucks came to various locations in a night to reduce resistance. Innocents were taken, too, for a good measure.
And for the taken, short term is long enough.
Besides, the whole schtik is imo being played in real time today. Just digitally.
[–]Sir_manalot1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
True, revolts are really ugly for the rebeling side (always was that way too), but the government is always on the losing side in the end.
Some take a year, others take a decade. But in the end, the government is drained (as life becomes increasingly shitty for them) until it is forced to submit.
Especially these days, as technology allows people to unite and hide far easier. And sure, governments can kill better and quicker too...but so can the other side (and since the government has to play the costly defense 24/7, they end up getting the worse end yet again).
Which is why hit and runs tactics are so common and effective these days. As you can send one low tier rebel in a suicide mission to easily wipe out 100s of people, but the reverse situation isn't all that advantageous to the defensive side.
[–]8017350 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
until it is forced to submit.
"Submit". But the thieves never really suffer the consequences, withdraw/dislocate then return, like always. Human nature plays a part in this. Misled, kept in the dark individuals usually pay the price of thieves who ran away into hiding (in plain sight, too).
[–]Basic_biatsch5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ive seen plenty of abuse- emotional and physical. Ive seen men sucking their wife/girlfriend's funds dry while slacking off for days and much more. There are good people And then there are assholes, no matter the gender. Come the fuck on, youre so blackpilled its erasing your brain cells
[–]Darkster205 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Damn so you saw some abuse and therfore this is ok?
The point is, this is viewed normal for society when it happens to men, if it happens to a woman the auto response is "he is an asshole" or whatever. Men are supposed to agree to these conditions.
Your anectodal experience has nothing to do with the point of this post.
Also you draw a false liberal equivalency. the VAST majority of cases where this happens is the male getting fucked because this is how society is "supposed" to function according to social norms.
While when it happens to women its "abuse"
Nobody is EVER saying "all woman or all men" its just a non argument from the start and nobody is saying it doesnt happen to woman, we are simply stating general truths, because you dont live your life on exception you have to assume general trends otherwise you are just going to end up dead.
[–]Basic_biatsch-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No, im saying this Is awfully one sided and presented all bent and twisted so it would fit the regular incel's narrative. Like honestly, unless we're talking about a spoilt brat of a woman, normal relationships dont work like that, wtf.
[–]Darkster202 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There you have it, the "incel narrative" thats all i need to know
normal relationships dont work like that
Then you havent been in many relationships or you live in a bubble, or maybe you are just a chad.
You sound like a boomer "Just go get married nothing wrong it wamen, wah", "nothing wrong with the economy kids are just lazy, wah" "i worked at a gas station and payed of my studen loand in 1960"
This is one sided because this is exactly what a relationship looks like for the vast majority of people.
Why the fuck do you think men are getting so fed up with the system?
you have completely ignored the point of this post once again.
[–]Rudy_Bear834 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Has you can see...
[–]amer215[S] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I fixed it by going to desktop
[–]RememberWhenEye1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Really discredited the whole thing doesn't it? Certainly can't share this with anyone cause that's all they'll see and then you get retard credits for spelling.
[–]Rudy_Bear830 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah man, that's exactly how I feel. It's a shame that this happens, but it does. You share something like that, with such a horrendous mistake (I don't even think this is a spelling mistake, I can't imagine the thought process involved in turning one word into a completely different one), and people will just be like ha, nice message there, douche bag
[–]waxqube4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Emotional support? Once you bare your emotions, she will leave.
Sex? She loses interest much faster than you do.
Status? What status do you get?
[–]castlefrankie3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Check your bank account. Imagine it doubled. That's what it could be if you keep XX out of your life.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
FTFY https://i.imgur.com/ngizplC.jpg
[–]RememberWhenEye1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Coulda fixed the has too but....
[–]CoffeeBreaksAllDay1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Woman: perfectly balanced as all things should be
[–]Hirudin1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree with everyone else here.
"Emotional Support": she says you need to open up more, so at best, you tell her some trifling, surface-level concern of yours to placate her, because you know that if you really opened up she'd be gone in an instant with half your stuff.
"Sex": Diminishing returns the longer the relationship goes on, assuming that it didn't stop the instant kids appear, and on the off chance that it does keep going at a regular rate, there's good odds that it'll be with a person of ever increasing diameter.
"Status": Maybe in day's past. Today, the average married man takes a look in the mirror and sees Homer Simpson staring back at him.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Access to reproduction is a HUGE one . That’s why many people are blue pill
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Having a child is a big one, yeah.
[–]BimboBrothel-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your mother could've used a lot of those
[–]thatMGTOWguy0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol at emotional support
[–]amer215[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
For some reason I can't see the comments.
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The "Missing" comments are from Trolls that have been shadow banned, the comments show up in the comment count but never actually appear
[–]ScoutSteiner0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think if you see comments but then open the thread and nothing is there then those users are shadow banned.
[–]JerryNewton70 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All this and yet most men are the ones that have to do the heavy work to impress women to start a relationship (risking rejection, ridicule and nowadays sexual harassment claims). Men are the ones getting on one knee to propose as if their "princess" needs to do them a huge favor.
IT NEVER MADE SENSE TO ME. Even before I discovered red pills, it all made zero sense.
[–]prefecttaps0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Emotional support? Tf
[–]Demilich6630 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sex and emotional support might be hypothetical possibilities rather than a solid. I've seen many relationships where there wasn't a whole lot of that going on either.
Men used to get home cooked meals and a clean home to come home too after a full time job. Not anymore, instead we get thirsty ass 30 some year olds ready to settle down with first man to pay of the 90k in debt.
[–]Uruke0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The only possible counter argument from them.
You misogynistic pig who hurt you?
[–]overbite501 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They’re not wrong
[–]Uruke0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This post couldn't be far from the truth my fellow PEDE. I mean look around. You have men dropping left and right due to false alliegations (remember Kavanaugh and now Trump?) and the media isn't helping.
Married men are working for a rigged system due to the unreasonably high chance that there will be a divorce which means loosing half of your shit, and if you have children you are lucky to get half of the custody. Child support is based off of what you earn not what the kids need. Oh you make a six figure salary? Oh you had three children before the divorce? That'll will be a minimum of $2500 per month IF the woman decides to not push for more. It doesn't matter if they weren't your kids since she tricked you into thinking they were hers. The the woman gets to spend it however she wants by the way. Who knows if it actually goes to the kids? That's the real issue.
You're not going to have the same conversation with other MGTOW. It's not a "political movement" albiet some men treat it like one. They all have different backgrounds and reason why they went MGTOW.
I get it. I understand what it looks like from other side looking in. It goes against your life, your motives, the reason you live. As a fellow PEDE I plead that you attempt to look at MGTOW from a different perspective. A perspective that ignores society's current structure and instead ask yourself "is it fair"? Is it fair that women have all of these benefits, but claim that they are oppressed? Is it fair that women are capable of using society's system against you simply out of spite? Is it fair that women have obsured standards, but call out men who attempt to have the same standards?
Stay safe brother and MAGA.
[–]AdrenalineJunkySloth0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
EXACTLY!!!! You get it. I hate when they say you "use" her for sex... uh, excuse me BOTH of you get sex it's not a one-way thing. Like kissing, if both people are kissing you can't just say oh he got kissing from her but she didn't get any... wait what?! You both want sex and you both got sex, it's even. Problem here is you wanted MORE than sex and that's a whole different story.
[–]AppropriateRent0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men: - lower chance of contracting STDs - less likely to become emotionally attached after sex. - if a foreigner, can pretend to love a woman so he can marry her and gain citizenship as women love the idea of marriage.
[–]-NavyBluePaint-0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You guys are such fucking liars. We get TIES and SOCKS, DUH! Pftt mgtows
Thinking you get sex and emotional support while in a LTR oh silly annon that cuts out after 4-5 years. As far as the status of trophy wife goes all you're doing is presenting her future monkey branches at while parties so that only benefits her.
[–]dejujajdb0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is not how modern, healthy relationships work. It’s obvious that none of you have been in a committed, loving relationship
[–]roflcopt0rz_returns0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women don't provide men emotional support. There are multiple stories just on reddit where a guy breaks down to his girlfriend and reveals a traumatic past, and the woman literally thinks less of him. Emotional support should be moved to the exclusive female side.
Status is more of a technicality. The number of women who were nobodies and then became famous because they were the girlfriend of a celebrity (e.g. Bieber and Gomez) is ridiculous. Meanwhile the only "status" a man gets from being in a relationship as opposed to remaining single is that he doesn't get called gay, virgin, etc.
Sex is the only thing a man gets in the relationship, but when the woman can completely cut you off from the sex at the drop of a hat and there's nothing you can do about it, it's questionable if that can even be considered a benefit.
So TC I see three wrong things with your diagram sir, that's three strikes!!!
[–]paulkersey19990 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
you forgot; free mechanic/fix it service, lifting/moving heavy things, bug killing/pest control, dealing with anything gross and disgusting, painting, power washing, landscaping, snow removal etc. etc. we're going to need a bigger circle.
[–]amer215[S] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And small or no jail time.
[–]StrongAttitude-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You people mention too much about sex which makes you all looking desperate. And others may think you all can't get puzzy that's why you go MGTOW.
Mgtow should not be like that. Mgtow is all about freedom and self-realisation.
[–]NohoTwoPointOh1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, there is this thing called the biological imperative. It is how we managed to reproduce and become the dominant species. I've got kids, so I'm not desperate. Not in the slightest. Yet, my dick occasionally tries hard to convince me to chase the hole.
It's like telling a group of recovering addicts that they spend too much time discussing horse.
[–]StrongAttitude-2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most MGTOWs are virgins anyway, so when they keep mentioning about sex I think they are too desperate. Hence MGTOW is the only path for them to follow and give them purpose; otherwise they'd be lost.
Certainly non-MGTOWs have the same feeling as I do.
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